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Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 05, 2013, 12:59:18 PM
Yes I watched it, and it is a propaganda piece.  Full of spin, baby spin.

Yes, we DO have some income disparity....but Gov intervention is NOT and will NEVER fix this.  THAT is what caused it in the first place.

We need to allow those with money to freely spend it, not demand it from them.
Yep.
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Exterminator

Quote from: Palehorse on March 05, 2013, 01:03:10 PM
Wow. . .  :spooked:

They won't be satisfied until they've turned this into a third world country.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

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Quote from: Exterminator on March 05, 2013, 01:41:12 PM
They won't be satisfied until they've turned this into a third world country.

It would appear that we are heading that way, at least according to Obama's doom and gloom leadership...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 05, 2013, 12:59:18 PM
Yes I watched it, and it is a propaganda piece.  Full of spin, baby spin.

Yes, we DO have some income disparity....but Gov intervention is NOT and will NEVER fix this.  THAT is what caused it in the first place.

We need to allow those with money to freely spend it, not demand it from them.

If they're allowed to freely spend it, what do you suppose they'll spend it on?  I suggest it isn't going to be on the things you think they will if they're left to do as they please.

If, as you claim, government intervention created the disparity in the first place, then how do you suggest we fix it?  If nothing is done, more wealth will continue to flow to those on the far right of the chart.

Since there's no sign of that trend reversing, what do you think will happen as more of the wealth continues to shift to those on the right leaving less and less for those 90% and below on the graph, with the poverty line advancing further to the right with each passing year? 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on March 05, 2013, 02:14:27 PM
If they're allowed to freely spend it, what do you suppose they'll spend it on?  I suggest it isn't going to be on the things you think they will if they're left to do as they please.

If, as you claim, government intervention created the disparity in the first place, then how do you suggest we fix it?  If nothing is done, more wealth will continue to flow to those on the far right of the chart.

Since there's no sign of that trend reversing, what do you think will happen as more of the wealth continues to shift to those on the right leaving less and less for those 90% and below on the graph, with the poverty line advancing further to the right with each passing year? 

Let me ask you a question first....How do you suggest the money that the rich has obtained is "re-distributed"? 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Two words as to why our stock market is doing well (for now)....Quantive Easing ...and there will be a down-side to this.



"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

followsthewolf

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 05, 2013, 02:22:15 PM
Let me ask you a question first....How do you suggest the money that the rich has obtained is "re-distributed"?

Give me lots.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 05, 2013, 03:26:04 PM
Two words as to why our stock market is doing well (for now)....Quantive Easing ...and there will be a down-side to this.

If you can't spell it, I doubt you can understand it.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Olias on March 05, 2013, 03:38:02 PM
If you can't spell it, I doubt you can understand it.

sorry, typo.  OH, its okay for some to have typo's on here, but not everyone...I get it.  Btw, I DO understand, I have just read all about it.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 05, 2013, 02:22:15 PM
Let me ask you a question first....How do you suggest the money that the rich has obtained is "re-distributed"? 

I don't recall suggesting redistribution, nor do I recall redistribution being suggested in the video.   
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 05, 2013, 03:47:58 PM
OH, its okay for some to have typo's on here, but not everyone...I get it.

Oh, so it's just a typo when you use seen instead of saw; right?   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on March 05, 2013, 04:15:19 PM
Oh, so it's just a typo when you use seen instead of saw; right?   :rolleyes:
Sometimes just to get under your skin and sometimes just 'cause I want to.  Kind of like using gonna, outta, or some of the other off the wall I do.  I ain't the one tryin' to be somethin' I ain't here. 
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on March 05, 2013, 03:54:20 PM
I don't recall suggesting redistribution, nor do I recall redistribution being suggested in the video.   

I guess that is why I am asking you, what is YOUR resolution to this income disparity?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 05, 2013, 04:27:52 PM
I guess that is why I am asking you, what is YOUR resolution to this income disparity?

Here's part of it.  Let's see if you can get the broader picture given a reference to something with which you've claimed a familiarity.

"From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."    --- Luke 12:48 (NIV)

Now then.  What do you think is going to happen if the trend continues in the manner in which it has been?  What's going to happen if wealth continues to shift to the already overly bloated right side of the graph, and the poverty line keeps shifting to the right from the already hurting left side of the graph?  Unabated, the poverty line is eventually going to encroach on what used to be "the healthy middle class."  What happens then? 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson