The HCRA

[Locutus]

I would say that Obama too, is a creationist....isn't he?  He says he is a Christian.........so if you couple those together, then him and Huck are about the same....according to your own analogy....right?

^^

FYI, you went astray right here.

[Henry Hawk]

Okay, as normal, this has been spun and twisted.

First of all,

This all started when I posted a story that Mike Huckabee shared about how the HCRA is having a negative effect on small business.  Which IS a very  interesting look at a person who IS a small business and studied the laws and realized the impacts it carries.
Then comes the personal attacks at Mike Huckabee.  That he is dumb as dirt. Then came some shots at the IQ level of people from his state.  Nothing to do with the story I posted about the HCRA.

THEN, I asked WHY he was "dumb as dirt".  The answer I got was because he is a creationist.  So, my conclusion was that he is NO longer qualified to an intelligent opinion, because he believes in that God created the universe.  Tit for tat, 6 days or how ever long it took for God to create it. 

I then replied that Obama TOO, believes that GOD created the universe.  I made the mistake of calling him a creationist. Okay, you win that part, but Obama still believes in GOD and that He created everything.  Maybe Obama and Huckabee will disagree on the exact time work, but BOTH believe in God and His creations.

This whole thing was spun around from the point from the story I posted is that HCRA is either going to force business' to close or to quit having so many full time employees and hire more part time employees.  Which is NOT good for our economy.

Twist and turn everything you want, but it is NOT a good law.  PERIOD.



The answer I got was

[The Troll]

Okay, as normal, this has been spun and twisted.

First of all,

This all started when I posted a story that Mike Huckabee shared about how the HCRA is having a negative effect on small business.  Which IS a very  interesting look at a person who IS a small business and studied the laws and realized the impacts it carries.
Then comes the personal attacks at Mike Huckabee.  That he is dumb as dirt. Then came some shots at the IQ level of people from his state.  Nothing to do with the story I posted about the HCRA.

THEN, I asked WHY he was "dumb as dirt".  The answer I got was because he is a creationist.  So, my conclusion was that he is NO longer qualified to an intelligent opinion, because he believes in that God created the universe.  Tit for tat, 6 days or how ever long it took for God to create it. 

I then replied that Obama TOO, believes that GOD created the universe.  I made the mistake of calling him a creationist. Okay, you win that part, but Obama still believes in GOD and that He created everything.  Maybe Obama and Huckabee will disagree on the exact time work, but BOTH believe in God and His creations.

This whole thing was spun around from the point from the story I posted is that HCRA is either going to force business' to close or to quit having so many full time employees and hire more part time employees.  Which is NOT good for our economy.

Twist and turn everything you want, but it is NOT a good law.  PERIOD.



The answer I got was

 
  After all the bad and stupid things your god has done, you still believe there is a god?  Hawk, you're dumb as dirt.          

  With all of his power you would think with a lot of prayer he could replace a arm, leg, an eye and of all things fix crippled children of all their pain and anguish.   Beside all of the children he lets starve to death.        

  Oh yes, vote Republican, they will help you in your sickness and pain.      They are such good Christians.  Shall we all

[me]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57602611/afl-cio-obamacare-implementation-highly-disruptive/

BS/AP/ September 12, 2013, 11:01 AM
AFL-CIO: Obamacare implementation "highly disruptive"


As Republicans in Congress debate their strategy for obstructing the implementation of Obamacare, some of President Obama's closest allies are airing their grievances over the law's negative consequences.

At a convention in Los Angeles on Wednesday, the labor organization the AFL-CIO passed a resolution declaring that the Affordable Care Act will drive up costs of union-sponsored health plans to the point that workers and employers are forced to abandon them.

While the resolution is strongly worded -- it calls implementation of Obamacare "highly disruptive" to union health care plans -- some unions wanted to take the resolution even further. A draft originally offered by Sean McGarvey, head of the AFL-CIO's Building and Construction Trades Department, said the AFL-CIO could no longer support the health care law and called for its repeal unless changes were made to protect union multi-employer plans.

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As it was passed, the resolution claims the new law will increase costs for health plans that are jointly administered by unions and smaller employers in the construction, retail and transportation industries. That could encourage employers to hire fewer union workers or abandon the health plans altogether and force union members to seek lower quality coverage on the new health exchanges.

Union officials are seeking rule changes that would make their low-income workers eligible for the same types of federal subsidies they could get in the exchanges. They have also suggested rules that would treat their multi-employer plans as qualified exchange plans under the new law.

But the Congressional Research Service issued a memo earlier this year finding that neither change is allowed through rulemaking. The AFL-CIO resolution calls for the law to be amended by Congress if new rules cannot satisfy their concerns.

AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka held meetings at the White House last month in which he and other union leaders pressed the administration to make changes. Trumka has said he is encouraged that the White House is listening, but that no firm proposals have been made.

Republicans have seized on the AFL-CIO's complaints to back up its argument for slowing down the law's implementation and ultimately repealing it. They've also argued, however, that labor shouldn't get special treatment from Washington.

"We know big labor is leaning on the president to let them rewrite the same law they helped ram through," Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said on the Senate floor Thursday. "And apparently he's listening to them. "What about everybody else that's not in big labor?"

The latest poll surveying public opinion about Obamacare, from CNN, shows that weeks before open enrollment begins for the new health care exchanges, just 51 percent of Americans favor all or most of the provisions in the law.

A labor official told The Associated Press that White House officials had been calling labor leaders for days to urge them not to voice their concerns in the form of a resolution. The official, who wasn't authorized to discuss the conversations publicly and requested anonymity, said many union leaders insisted that they wanted to highlight their concerns.

Asked about any efforts to discourage unions from passing the resolution, the White House said in a statement Wednesday night that officials "are in regular contact with a variety of stakeholders, including unions, as part of our efforts to ensure smooth implementation and to improve the law."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57602611/afl-cio-obamacare-implementation-highly-disruptive/

[Exterminator]

So much for the conservative myths.

[me]

So much for the conservative myths.

He is your source of info about the HCRB???????  You expect us to take this as fact??????   

Born    John Michael Green
August 24, 1977 (age 36)
Indianapolis, Indiana, USA
Occupation    Writer, critic
Nationality    American
Education    B.A., English and Religious studies
Alma mater    Kenyon College
Period    2005-present
Genres    Young-adult fiction, radio, video
Notable work(s)    

    Looking for Alaska
    An Abundance of Katherines
    Paper Towns
    Let It Snow
    Will Grayson, Will Grayson
    The Fault in Our Stars

Notable award(s)    Michael L. Printz Award
2006 Looking for Alaska
Spouse(s)    Sarah Urist Green
Children    2
Relative(s)    Hank Green (brother)

[Exterminator]

He is your source of info about the HCRB???????  You expect us to take this as fact??????

He's a lot more credible than some uneducated housewife from Andertucky yet you spew your "profound insight" here daily. 

Of course, you can't refute the facts he presents because you have no idea how to look anything up!

[me]

He's a lot more credible than some uneducated housewife from Andertucky yet you spew your "profound insight" here daily. 

Of course, you can't refute the facts he presents because you have no idea how to look anything up!

Looked him up didn't I?   

[Exterminator]

Looked him up didn't I?   

Look up the facts he presented and tell us what you find.  I'm guessing you won't...or can't.

[me]

Look up the facts he presented and tell us what you find.  I'm guessing you won't...or can't.

Wouldn't matter who I got them from or where your reaction would be negative so, no, I won't bother to take the time.  Did that once and won't do it again.  Just remember, my refusal to do so doesn't make you right. 

[Exterminator]

Wouldn't matter who I got them from or where your reaction would be negative so, no, I won't bother to take the time.  Did that once and won't do it again.  Just remember, my refusal to do so doesn't make you right.

Fucking liar...you know he's right and are too fucking lazy to prove it to yourself because it's the opposite of what Fux News told you to think.

[me]

Fucking liar...you know he's right and are too fucking lazy to prove it to yourself because it's the opposite of what Fux News told you to think.

Guess I struck a nerve huh?  What a come back.....shakin' in my boots here....NOT!!!!!  Liberal's are soooo predictable. 

[Exterminator]

Guess I struck a nerve huh?  What a come back.....shakin' in my boots here....NOT!!!!!  Liberal's are soooo predictable.

You didn't strike a nerve with me.  How ignorant you choose to remain reflects only on you.

[me]

Oops......

Company with $1.2 billion Obamacare contract under investigation for 'serious fraud'
4:13 PM 09/30/2013

A British multinational being paid $1.2 billion to implement Obamacare's federal insurance exchanges is under investigation after allegedly overcharging the British government by tens of millions of dollars.

Reuters reports that Britain's Serious Fraud Office is now looking into Serco, a massive service and security firm employing 120,000 worldwide, after the company reportedly overbilled its government client as much as $80 million for criminal electronic monitoring devices.

Around one in six of the criminals listed were already in prison, had left the country, were not required to wear a device, or were even dead.


The alleged fraud prompted an audit from the U.K.'s Ministry of Justice earlier this summer. Late last week, the ministry sent information from that audit to the Serious Fraud Office, asking that it consider a criminal case against the company.

In early July, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) granted Serco a $1.25 billion contract to review and process paper insurance applications for Obamacare's 34 federally-operated state exchanges. News of the investigation broke days later, and the Obama administration rushed to defend its corporate partner.

"Serco is a highly-skilled company that has a proven track record in providing cost-effective services to numerous other federal agencies," said a spokesman for HHS' Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the agency charged with implementing the exchanges.

"The selection met all of the requirements for a full and open competition," he continued, "and the timing enables us to be ready for marketplace open enrollment starting on October 1."

Alan Hill, the spokesman for Serco's American subsidiary, told The Washington Post in July that a "firewall" existed between the American and British wings of the company. "When a foreign entity is involved, I think that means that U.S. interests are protected," he said.


The firm has already hired hundreds of new employees to fill Obamacare processing centers in Missouri, Arkansas and Kentucky. The Missouri office alone filled 600 new jobs in the last week in preparation for the individual exchange roll-out scheduled for Tuesday.

Tags: Obamacare, Serco

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/30/company-with-1-2-billion-obamacare-contract-under-investigation-for-serious-fraud/#ixzz2hWXH4VjH



http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/09/26/uk-serco-sfo-idUKBRE98P12Q20130926

[The Troll]

  Yep, there is fraud a lot of fraud.  Just look at all of the damn crooks in Congress.