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Started by Palehorse, January 25, 2013, 11:22:58 AM

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Palehorse

#60
June 29, 2013, 02:53:47 PM
It couldn't possibly be that they are trying to operate their BUSINESS like any other BUSINESS and incorporate LEAN methodology and Six Sigma tools in order to maximize their already burgeoning profit levels now could it?  :rolleyes:
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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Henry Hawk

#61
June 29, 2013, 03:15:41 PM
 :rolleyes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

#62
June 29, 2013, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 29, 2013, 02:53:47 PM
It couldn't possibly be that they are trying to operate their BUSINESS like any other BUSINESS and incorporate LEAN methodology and Six Sigma tools in order to maximize their already burgeoning profit levels now could it?  :rolleyes:
Ya, that's it.  All these businesses, especially the small businesses, are just using the HCB as an excuse and have found way to make more money even with the fact that their costs are going to rise.  Damn people anyway for wanting their businesses to stay sustainable so they can actually make money. 
Trump 2020

Anne

#63
June 29, 2013, 06:46:15 PM
My daughter works for a big health care provider in VA and they were told there would be layoffs and delays in treatment because of the healthcare laws. A little thing like treating lots more people with reduced reimbursement rates.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Palehorse

#64
June 30, 2013, 12:57:16 PM
And now we hear from the Unenlightened Chorus. How droll. . . :rolleyes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

#65
June 30, 2013, 01:50:17 PM
One of the things the HCRA does is force corporate hospitals masquerading as charitable religious hospitals to actually provide some percentage of their services at no cost to those who are unable to otherwise afford it.  St. Vincent's definitely falls into that category.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

#66
June 30, 2013, 01:54:19 PM
"Heaven" forbid that a charitable organization that reaps the benefits of said classification actually have to provide charity above profit!  :wink:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

#67
June 30, 2013, 02:19:34 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 30, 2013, 01:50:17 PM
One of the things the HCRA does is force corporate hospitals masquerading as charitable religious hospitals to actually provide some percentage of their services at no cost to those who are unable to otherwise afford it.  St. Vincent's definitely falls into that category.
Hum, that's strange since they send someone around if you go to the emergency room before you're dismissed to explain how to sign up for help with your bill if you have no insurance.  They also come around if you're admitted to make sure people know the different ways you can get help.  Even if you have insurance and fall into certain guidelines income wise you can still get help so don't try peddling that B S. 

Our former neighbor has a friend staying with them who found out he has emphysema and is always treated when he goes in and they know he has no means to pay. 
Trump 2020

Henry Hawk

#68
June 30, 2013, 03:58:39 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 30, 2013, 01:54:19 PM
"Heaven" forbid that a charitable organization that reaps the benefits of said classification actually have to provide charity above profit!  :wink:

Like they St. V, has NOT provided enough FREEBIES already?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#69
June 30, 2013, 04:41:09 PM
I didn't say these hospitals didn't give some care away (as they are required by law to do) but the two of you should probably do a little research to find out how small a percentage of their overall services that is.  In the case of some such hospitals, it is less than 1%.  The HCRA mandates a certain percentage which will cut into their profits and yes, probably cause them to lay off some non-essential staff.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

#70
June 30, 2013, 05:32:33 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 30, 2013, 04:41:09 PM
I didn't say these hospitals didn't give some care away (as they are required by law to do) but the two of you should probably do a little research to find out how small a percentage of their overall services that is.  In the case of some such hospitals, it is less than 1%.  The HCRA mandates a certain percentage which will cut into their profits and yes, probably cause them to lay off some non-essential staff.

Fuhgettaboudit. Trying to teach a pig to dance is futile. Especially when it's a lot easier to just blame it on the darkie in the white house.

:pigdance:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#71
June 30, 2013, 05:52:07 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 30, 2013, 05:32:33 PM
Fuhgettaboudit. Trying to teach a pig to dance is futile. Especially when it's a lot easier to just blame it on the darkie in the white house.

:pigdance:

You sense of humor is NOT appreciated NOR is it remotely funny....but then again, I really don't give a rats ass.

remember NOTHING is free..........somebody HAS to pay for it.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

#72
June 30, 2013, 06:02:02 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 30, 2013, 05:52:07 PM
You sense of humor is NOT appreciated NOR is it remotely funny....but then again, I really don't give a rats ass.

remember NOTHING is free..........somebody HAS to pay for it.
They are so deeply engrossed in all that propaganda BS and the many distractions they just can't see things for what they really are.  Notice how the putdowns start when they are uncomfortable with what we're saying so they don't have to accept the truth. Also notice Ex never did answer my question from a few weeks ago.  I really need to hunt that up again. 
Trump 2020

me

#73
June 30, 2013, 06:10:00 PM
Here it is again Ex just in case you "miss" it again in the other thread.  You can answer too PH if you would like. 


  Question for you.  If I agree with a black person who disagrees with Obama on policy does that still make me a racist?  What does that make the black person who dislikes his policies? 
Trump 2020

Henry Hawk

#74
June 30, 2013, 06:12:27 PM
c'mon me...........they are so much brighter than most folks......they only deal with facts.   ;)

until they get in the way...

Don't count on an answer from him......perhaps a wisecrack, but nothing serious.


Most American's NOW realize just how dangerous Obamacare is.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW
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