Should the debt ceiling be raised.

[RC]

I say no way no how.  Just like every regular person must live with what they bringing in so should the government.   Massive deep  and real cuts need to be made now.

[me]

I agree. 

[Exterminator]

Me, too and lets start by eliminating all deductions: each taxpayer gets to take the standard deduction and no more.

[me]

Me, too and lets start by eliminating all deductions: each taxpayer gets to take the standard deduction and no more.

Oh no, you're not gonna start our week off by both of us agreeing on something are you? 

[Exterminator]

Oh no, you're not gonna start our week off by both of us agreeing on something are you? 

Crap, I might have to rethink that!  You understand what I mean by that, don't you?  That means you get no deductions for children and no deductions for non-working spouses.  Only the people in any household who work and pay taxes get a deduction and it's the same amount for everyone.

[The Troll]

Crap, I might have to rethink that!  You understand what I mean by that, don't you?  That means you get no deductions for children and no deductions for nonworking spouses.  Only the people in any household who work and pay taxes get a deduction and it's the same amount for everyone.

  We have to raise the debt limit for now.  Why?  Because during the George W. Bush administration, he and his Republicans financed two unfunded wars, a  unfunded drug program and gave the largest banks (too big to fail) over a Trillion dollars.  The Republican party broke America and the American people. 

  Raising the debt limit isn't for new spending it is for the past spending of George W. Bush.  With this financial disaster the Republicans caused, with the housing bubble and stock market bust, the banking bust and the two war Billions of  unfunded dollars, the chickens have come home to roost.   

  If we how do what the Republicans now, we will distroy all of the social nets for the people, force us back into a depression, just like Herbert Hoover did.   

  But we do need to stop all corporate welfare, stop all money to the oil companies, and make all corporations pay taxes.  This bullshit of General Electric, Westinghouse millions of dollars in profit and not paying taxes.  And tax these companies and the super rich who are keep Trillions of dollars in foreign countries to keep from paying American taxes.  There is so many way to cut the budget with touching Social Security, Medicare and Medicade.   

  Also we need to go after the men, women and business who work under the table with cash and are not paying taxes.  I know a guy who own three pizza stores and all of his employees are paid under the table with cash.     He is not only screwing his employees he screwing the rest of us tax paying citizens. There has to be over a million people who make good money and not paying taxes.    We don't need to go after grandma and grandpa.   

  The the main thing I want stopped is any deductions that "ME" and Henry get on their houses, especially "Me's" big new house.   

[Locutus]

I say no way no how.  Just like every regular person must live with what they bringing in so should the government.   Massive deep  and real cuts need to be made now.

Is the defense department up for these cuts too? 

[RC]

Is the defense department up for these cuts too?

Yes to the extent it does not hamper the killing power of the Army.  The generals will have to give up some perks, and over seas the troops might have to do with out the fast food from home.

[Anne]

Wow, a semblence of harmony on the zone!   

[me]

Crap, I might have to rethink that!  You understand what I mean by that, don't you?  That means you get no deductions for children and no deductions for non-working spouses.  Only the people in any household who work and pay taxes get a deduction and it's the same amount for everyone.

I fully understand. 

[Locutus]

Wow, a semblence of harmony on the zone!   

[Exterminator]

This is awesome; finally we have agreement on something!  RC and 'me' agree to a one earner, one taxpayer, one deduction system with no deductions for non-working spouses (want another deduction, get a job!) and no deductions for breeders (sorry, if you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em...not my responsibility to subsidize your breeding vis-a-vis deductions for your hell-spawn).

Let's lobby Congress and make this happen!

Are you with us RC?  Henry?

[Locutus]

Henry's got the flu pretty bad according to his post on the Random Comments thread in the moderated area.  He may not be around much until he gets better. 

[Palehorse]

Only if the end goal is to trash the nation's credit rating, weaken its defense, throw millions out of their homes due to foreclosure and the rampant unemployment, trash the economy and any progress made on its recovery, drive gasoline and other petroleum products price per gallon higher, triple the cost of milk and all other dairy products, and killing millions of Americans over starvation and disease.

Make no mistake, just saying "No' will indeed drive all of those things a a plethora of others as the domino effect impacts the entire nation and all who live within it. 

People who do not understand the way economics works should not be given a vote surrounding key decision points of its day to day operations, policy changes, nor its path moving forward.

Now, I'm on board with the elimination of the breeder deductions, but let's see how many agree when they take away your mortgage deductions too.

[Exterminator]

...over seas the troops might have to do with out the fast food from home.

WTF?