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Quote from: Palehorse on August 11, 2014, 07:19:36 PM
Robin Williams  :reap: HARVESTED :reap: @ 63.

The famed comedian was reported to be battling severe depression. . . so. . .  :'(
:'(
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Henry Hawk

Yeah it is very sad news indeed!  It amazes me how somebody like this guy, can make people laugh on a spur of the moment for hours at a time.

We are privileged that he still has FOUR movies yet to be released.......

This Depression thing boggles my mind....it is hard for me to wrap my mind around how people can get so low, yet it happens all the time, even to those I would NEVER think it would be possible to see them depressed.

RIP.... :( ...NANU NANU!
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Palehorse

While I normally don't like to comment on my "Harvested" postings, I will on this one surrounding Robin Williams.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 12, 2014, 08:28:41 AM
Yeah it is very sad news indeed!  It amazes me how somebody like this guy, can make people laugh on a spur of the moment for hours at a time.

We are privileged that he still has FOUR movies yet to be released.......

This Depression thing boggles my mind....it is hard for me to wrap my mind around how people can get so low, yet it happens all the time, even to those I would NEVER think it would be possible to see them depressed.

RIP.... :( ...NANU NANU!

Agreed Henry. Depression is a deadly condition that medicine doesn't fully understand. It can start with a simple sleepless night, followed by others, and from that it can snowball very quickly into what happened with Robin Williams and so many others before him.

For me, I have always enjoyed his work, and one of my favorites by him is "What Dreams May Come"; a movie that I shall forever more see in yet another perspective given the circumstances surrounding his death. Admittedly, a bit of a diversion from his typical work, but none-the-less a piece of work that is a bit further out there too. In fact, so far out there that I suspect it was a role / topic / subject that no one else could have carried off as convincingly as Williams did. Just the fact he was in the role brought credibility to everything else within it. Remove him and the film becomes rubbish; In my opinion.

I am actually going to see if I can find it on DVD somewhere, to watch this weekend. I suspect some of the emotions it first brought out in me when I saw it in the theaters, will be magnified given yesterdays event.

There are many more of his films that I will see in a different light moving forward. But to tell you the truth I have a theory around just why it is that we see so many "great" actors and comedians reach similar endings; however it is just that, a theory, and I have no concrete facts or data with which to support it.

The cliff notes version of it is this; these men/women immerse themselves into these roles, to a level few others are able to obtain. It is why they are so convincing and able to "convince" us that they are indeed in that situation/role on the big screen. And it is why they are so effective. They live it, they breathe it, they sleep it, and in the process they actually become the character(s) they portray. And therein lies the rub. . .

Many of them fail to ever completely "decompress" from these roles. The very things that make them so convincing are the things that drive them to the edge afterwards. They feel the sorrow, the emotional extremes, and afterwards cannot compartmentalize it; resulting in emotional baggage that they carry around just as if the events and emotions they portrayed had actually happened to them.

An occupational hazard that few, if any recognize; and most certainly the industry itself. There are no courses designed to help these people learn to compartmentalize these extremes of emotion, and so they are left to deal with it as best they can. For many substance abuse is the approach, and it is quickly followed by depression, and the steep slide downward toward death.

My 2 cents, but somebody should look into it. . .
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Palehorse on August 12, 2014, 06:02:14 PM
While I normally don't like to comment on my "Harvested" postings, I will on this one surrounding Robin Williams.

Agreed Henry. Depression is a deadly condition that medicine doesn't fully understand. It can start with a simple sleepless night, followed by others, and from that it can snowball very quickly into what happened with Robin Williams and so many others before him.

For me, I have always enjoyed his work, and one of my favorites by him is "What Dreams May Come"; a movie that I shall forever more see in yet another perspective given the circumstances surrounding his death. Admittedly, a bit of a diversion from his typical work, but none-the-less a piece of work that is a bit further out there too. In fact, so far out there that I suspect it was a role / topic / subject that no one else could have carried off as convincingly as Williams did. Just the fact he was in the role brought credibility to everything else within it. Remove him and the film becomes rubbish; In my opinion.

I am actually going to see if I can find it on DVD somewhere, to watch this weekend. I suspect some of the emotions it first brought out in me when I saw it in the theaters, will be magnified given yesterdays event.

There are many more of his films that I will see in a different light moving forward. But to tell you the truth I have a theory around just why it is that we see so many "great" actors and comedians reach similar endings; however it is just that, a theory, and I have no concrete facts or data with which to support it.

The cliff notes version of it is this; these men/women immerse themselves into these roles, to a level few others are able to obtain. It is why they are so convincing and able to "convince" us that they are indeed in that situation/role on the big screen. And it is why they are so effective. They live it, they breathe it, they sleep it, and in the process they actually become the character(s) they portray. And therein lies the rub. . .

Many of them fail to ever completely "decompress" from these roles. The very things that make them so convincing are the things that drive them to the edge afterwards. They feel the sorrow, the emotional extremes, and afterwards cannot compartmentalize it; resulting in emotional baggage that they carry around just as if the events and emotions they portrayed had actually happened to them.

An occupational hazard that few, if any recognize; and most certainly the industry itself. There are no courses designed to help these people learn to compartmentalize these extremes of emotion, and so they are left to deal with it as best they can. For many substance abuse is the approach, and it is quickly followed by depression, and the steep slide downward toward death.

My 2 cents, but somebody should look into it. . .
I will have to see that movie and of course he was brilliant in the World According to Garp and Dead Poet's Society. It is just like someone said that depression doesn't discriminate because of race, religion or politics.

Palehorse

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 12, 2014, 06:06:20 PM
I will have to see that movie and of course he was brilliant in the World According to Garp and Dead Poet's Society. It is just like someone said that depression doesn't discriminate because of race, religion or politics.

There is more than a little irony in the storyline and role he plays in What Dreams May Come.

It deals with death, depression, and suicide. . . It is a surreal look at the subjects, and one that takes a very non-traditional view of them. So be prepared for that. In fact, when you first sit down to watch it, you'll be a way into the story before you realize what it is about. The way the scenes are shot, the sets, and perspectives are very surreal. . . and "large".  And it can be a bit of an emotional film to view as well. Williams is brilliant in it, in my opinion.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Palehorse on August 12, 2014, 06:26:53 PM
There is more than a little irony in the storyline and role he plays in What Dreams May Come.

It deals with death, depression, and suicide. . . It is a surreal look at the subjects, and one that takes a very non-traditional view of them. So be prepared for that. In fact, when you first sit down to watch it, you'll be a way into the story before you realize what it is about. The way the scenes are shot, the sets, and perspectives are very surreal. . . and "large".  And it can be a bit of an emotional film to view as well. Williams is brilliant in it, in my opinion.

I can't remember Dead Poet's Society but didn't it also have some suicide in it also. It has been so long since I watched it.

Palehorse

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 12, 2014, 06:58:18 PM
I can't remember Dead Poet's Society but didn't it also have some suicide in it also. It has been so long since I watched it.

I don't remember. I know there was a death. . .

Speaking of that:

Lauren Bacall  :reap: Harvested :reap: @ 89  http://en.mediamass.net/people/lauren-bacall/deathhoax.html  :icon_twisted:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Palehorse on August 12, 2014, 07:12:01 PM
I don't remember. I know there was a death. . .

Speaking of that:

Lauren Bacall  :reap: Harvested :reap: @ 89  http://en.mediamass.net/people/lauren-bacall/deathhoax.html  :icon_twisted:

Yes, I looked it up and one of his students commits suicide and Robin Williams' gets blamed for it.
Lauren Bacall was a great actress.

Palehorse

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 12, 2014, 07:43:52 PM
. . .
Lauren Bacall was a great actress.

"IS" a great actress. That is a hoax circulating out there right now. (Which is why I included the link that documents the fact it is a hoax).  :big grin:

I need to stay out of here and get off the internet. This whole Robin Williams thing is depressing, and I don't want to overdose on it. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: Palehorse on August 12, 2014, 07:51:59 PM
"IS" a great actress. That is a hoax circulating out there right now. (Which is why I included the link that documents the fact it is a hoax).  :big grin:

I need to stay out of here and get off the internet. This whole Robin Williams thing is depressing, and I don't want to overdose on it. . .

Or not. . .

Apparently Lauren Bacall is indeed  :reap: HARVESTED :reap: @89. (Despite the hoax previously posted).

TMZ is now reporting she died of a massive stroke this morning. . . http://www.tmz.com/2014/08/12/lauren-bacall-dead-dies/
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Palehorse on August 12, 2014, 08:04:48 PM
Or not. . .

Apparently Lauren Bacall is indeed  :reap: HARVESTED :reap: @89. (Despite the hoax previously posted).

TMZ is now reporting she died of a massive stroke this morning. . . http://www.tmz.com/2014/08/12/lauren-bacall-dead-dies/

Okay, thanks for finding out Palehorse!! You are a good guy!!!

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Purplelady1040

Quote from: Locutus on August 12, 2014, 09:33:19 PM
Yep.  Lauren Bacall is dead. 

http://news.kron4.com/news/actress-lauren-bacall-dead-at-89/
So sad, she was a classic actress and so talented. Hollywood has lost a legend.

libby

Palehorse wrote:

"I need to stay out of here and get off the internet. This whole Robin Williams thing is depressing, and I don't want to overdose on it. . ."

I know exactly what you mean, PH. I've read everything you've written here about Robin Williams, and it is thought-provoking.




All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Purplelady1040

Quote from: libby on August 12, 2014, 10:54:34 PM
Palehorse wrote:

"I need to stay out of here and get off the internet. This whole Robin Williams thing is depressing, and I don't want to overdose on it. . ."

I know exactly what you mean, PH. I've read everything you've written here about Robin Williams, and it is thought-provoking.
What is so strange is that the movie PH listed, The World According to Garp and Dead Poet's Society all had death and suicide in them. What I hate even more is that the media somehow will glamorize suicide and depression and they shouldn't. Maybe they won't but instead advise people to get help!