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Started by Palehorse, December 28, 2012, 01:17:55 AM

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on December 28, 2012, 09:30:15 PM
They're forcing their religious beliefs upon their employees at a time when their employees have no choice in who they work for, and little to no opportunity to change it.

they are NOT forcing any religious beliefs on anyone.......

The damn thing about this in my opinion, why should ANYONE have to pay to OTHERS to screw safely?  why can't people TRY to be an ounce accountable for their OWN actions?  Why?  that just blows me away!  NO, lets have our government FORCE  business' to pay for it............it is mind boggling to think our goverment is THIS powerful and so many people are okay with it.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 29, 2012, 05:15:28 PM
they are NOT forcing any religious beliefs on anyone.......

The damn thing about this in my opinion, why should ANYONE have to pay to OTHERS to screw safely?  why can't people TRY to be an ounce accountable for their OWN actions?  Why?  that just blows me away!  NO, lets have our government FORCE  business' to pay for it............it is mind boggling to think our goverment is THIS powerful and so many people are okay with it.

69,000,000 + in premiums less 18,000 to pay for 360 morning after pills. . . Yeah, who is paying for it again?  :rolleyes:
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The Troll


  What gets me is some dumbass who has screwed himself poor with 5 kids don't want anyone to get some from of birth control.  To hell with the children born out of these conditions.  And why is he against it, HE DOESN'T WANT SOME BIG RICH COMPANY TO PAY TO HAVE IT IN THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE.  :azz:

   Some people just make me sick.  :puke:

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 29, 2012, 05:15:28 PM
they are NOT forcing any religious beliefs on anyone.......

. . .

No?

Then explain just why it is that they do not want to pay for it then. . . (This should be good)

The story clearly states, (and within the portion of the story I quoted), that they do not want to pay for this because it is against the owners religious beliefs.

QuoteThe company opposes providing some contraceptives to employees through its company health care plan on religious grounds, saying some contraceptive products, like the morning after pill, equate to abortion. . .

So that is his/her religious belief, and more power to him. S/he can hold that belief all they want, but NO ONE else has to unless they make the personal decision to do so. Taking away that decision is imposing one's belief upon another, and constitutionally a violation as well as a violation of the HCRA; the law of the land.

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 29, 2012, 05:15:28 PM
in my opinion, why should ANYONE (a bussiness owner) have to pay to OTHERS to screw safely? 

Lets get to the blunt of this issue...........and this says it all for me.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

For the same reasons you have to pay taxes.  It's the law. 

None of us enjoys paying taxes, but we have no choice in the matter. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

followsthewolf

"blunt"?

Are you referring to a marijuana cigarette, or did you mean to say "brunt," meaning the main thrust of the argument?
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Locutus

Quote from: followsthewolf on December 29, 2012, 09:21:28 PM
"blunt"?

Are you referring to a marijuana cigarette, or did you mean to say "brunt," meaning the main thrust of the argument?

;D
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

Quote from: followsthewolf on December 29, 2012, 09:21:28 PM
"blunt"?

Are you referring to a marijuana cigarette, or did you mean to say "brunt," meaning the main thrust of the argument?

Given the sentence structure of the post you replied to I'd say that was, again, a Freudian slip!  :icon_twisted:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 29, 2012, 09:13:45 PM
Lets get to the blunt of this issue...........and this says it all for me.

Sentence structure and spelling / vocabulary notwithstanding. . . I already answered that one myself.

Quote from: Palehorse on December 29, 2012, 07:47:07 PM
No?

Then explain just why it is that they do not want to pay for it then. . . (This should be good)

The story clearly states, (and within the portion of the story I quoted), that they do not want to pay for this because it is against the owners religious beliefs.

So that is his/her religious belief, and more power to him. S/he can hold that belief all they want, but NO ONE else has to unless they make the personal decision to do so. Taking away that decision is imposing one's belief upon another, and constitutionally a violation as well as a violation of the HCRA; the law of the land.


R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville