Hobby Lobby - 1.3 Mill/day fine Starts 1/1/13

[Palehorse]

Washington (CNN)– Craft store giant Hobby Lobby is bracing for a $1.3 million a day fine beginning January 1 for noncompliance with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, dubbed Obamacare.

The company opposes providing some contraceptives to employees through its company health care plan on religious grounds, saying some contraceptive products, like the morning after pill, equate to abortion.

After failing to receive temporary relief from the fines from the Supreme Court, Hobby Lobby announced late Thursday through its attorneys that it "will continue to provide health insurance to all qualified employees. To remain true to their faith, it is not their intention, as a company, to pay for abortion-inducing drugs."

In September, Hobby Lobby and affiliate Mardel, a Christian bookstore chain, sued the federal government for violating their owners' religious freedom and ability to freely exercise their religion. . . .
 

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/27/hobby-lobby-faces-millions-in-fines-for-bucking-obamacare/?hpt=hp_t3

Here we go with yet another "corporation" claiming to hold "religious beliefs". (How does a soulless faceless corporation  hold any kind of belief what-so-ever?)

THIS is the very kind of bullshit that SCOTUS decision granting corporations constitutional rights feeds. And THIS is the very kind of bullshit that frustrates the hell out of me.

If these soulless/faceless corporations are going to start claiming constitutional protection / violation of religious freedom, then those sumbitches need to be held accountable for operating their friggin businesses in a manner that does NOT violate the individual constitutional rights of their damn employees! 

[me]

Those soulless faceless corps have owners and it is the owners who object not the corp itself.  It should be up to the company to choose what coverage they carry anyway not the governments.  They probably don't carry that type now so why should they be forced to carry it under Obama care? 

[Exterminator]

Because it's the law.

[Henry Hawk]

a very bad law.........

[Exterminator]

In your opinion; the vast majority of Americans support it.   

[Henry Hawk]

Sales in Hobby Lobby will go through the roof over the next few days.............

[Anne]

Hobby Lobby is closed on Sundays. There is a sign on their door stating the closure and implying it is due to the owner's religious beliefs. If they provide adequate insurance per the health care act except for birth control I don't have a problem with them not furnishing it. Birth control is cheap, having sex is a choice, personal responsibility is a good thing.

[Henry Hawk]

Hobby Lobby is closed on Sundays. There is a sign on their door stating the closure and implying it is due to the owner's religious beliefs. If they provide adequate insurance per the health care act except for birth control I don't have a problem with them not furnishing it. Birth control is cheap, having sex is a choice, personal responsibility is a good thing.

Spot on Anne!   

[Exterminator]

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion but the law is still the law.

[Henry Hawk]

This one will end up in court.

[Palehorse]

This one will end up in court.

Obviously you didn't read the story. It has already been there and they lost. They, like some here, refuse to get over it and comply with the law.

[Palehorse]

Those soulless faceless corps have owners and it is the owners who object not the corp itself. . . .

And those owners ALREADY have individual constitutional rights. So because they own a corporation they now get to double-dip? Horse Hockey!

Why should they be able to force their religious beliefs upon their employees? How would you feel if the owners were of a religious sect that required all employees to cover their faces, or banned women from working there? 

[Exterminator]

Obviously you didn't read the story.

Shocking!

[Henry Hawk]

And those owners ALREADY have individual constitutional rights. So because they own a corporation they now get to double-dip? Horse Hockey!

Why should they be able to force their religious beliefs upon their employees? How would you feel if the owners were of a religious sect that required all employees to cover their faces, or banned women from working there? 

They are not forcing any religious beliefs on any employee........they just refuse to BUY them the "morning-after pill" as part of their HC coverage.  All employees KNOW this before they go to work for them. 

You are making MORE out of this than what it is.

[Palehorse]

They are not forcing any religious beliefs on any employee........they just refuse to BUY them the "morning-after pill" as part of their HC coverage.  All employees KNOW this before they go to work for them. 

You are making MORE out of this than what it is.

They seek to restrict medical coverage based upon a personal religious belief. That is not only against the law of the land, it is an insidiously anti-constitutional violation.

As for your comment surrounding the inferred knowledge of this being present pre-employment; it is blatantly clear your personal knowledge base surrounding the hiring process falls appallingly short. Moreover, you certainly have no personal knowledge surrounding the status of the job market today with which to base your opinion.

The fact is today as a potential candidate, one is forced to accept not only lower wages, but appallingly abusive "benefit packages" that fail to hit the mark in most employees judgment. As an example of this I would present the increasingly popular (with employers) "high deductible" health plans most are using to skirt the law. Employees are given no choice but to accept said plans, as they are the only option offered, and endure paying 6k in premiums annually, and 3500 dollar deductibles per person covered, before they will even think about starting to pay for even a band aid. (And even then it is at the 80% rate). Instead of being a "healthcare plan" these plans are nothing more than "healthcare disaster insurance" policies that place the burden upon the employees for their diagnostic testing, prescriptions, ER visits, etc.

And now they want to impose their religious beliefs upon their employees too, and are attempting to invoke a constitutional right to do so? Come on man!