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Michigan passes right to work legislation

Started by Palehorse, December 11, 2012, 12:40:50 PM

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Palehorse

I see Michigan is trying to pass the "right to work" legislation.

Here we go, another state enabling the 7 day work week and other worker abusive practices. . .  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Henry Hawk

Not trying to pass..............they ARE passing.

right-to-work states create jobs twice as quickly as states where forced  unionism is permitted, and they enjoyed 10 percent faster growth in personal  income.



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Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 11, 2012, 01:10:54 PM
right-to-work states create jobs twice as quickly as states where forced  unionism is permitted, and they enjoyed 10 percent faster growth in personal  income.

States whose names begin with the letters 'n' through 'z' grew faster over the past decade than states whose names begin with letters from the first half of the alphabet.  Does that mean that renaming the latter will result in a better economic outlook for them?  Of course not, not any more than right to work laws have that effect.  Only gullible fools believe that rhetoric.
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I do find it ironic that they have to bus people in and pay them to object.  Shouldn't that be up to the people in the state in question to protest instead?  Don't try to tell me they don't bus them in either 'cause if you think they don't you're only fooling yourself. 
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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 11, 2012, 01:10:54 PM
Not trying to pass..............they ARE passing.

right-to-work states create jobs twice as quickly as states where forced  unionism is permitted, and they enjoyed 10 percent faster growth in personal  income.

  All I ask SCAB.  Prove it.  You have to be one of the biggest lying SCAB I have ever seen.  You nothing but a lying SCAB snake Hawk.  :puke:

  Everything you just said is a lie.  While you're at it SCAB, :azz:

                                            The right to work laws mean the workers work for less.   :@#%&: SCABS  :trustme:

The Troll

Quote from: me on December 11, 2012, 04:33:38 PM
I do find it ironic that they have to bus people in and pay them to object.  Shouldn't that be up to the people in the state in question to protest instead?  Don't try to tell me they don't bus them in either 'cause if you think they don't you're only fooling yourself.

  Tell SCAB "ME" just why didn't the Republicans have public hearing on this bill.  Huh?  Why didn't SCAB Governor tell the union leaders that he wasn't interested in passing the Right to Work Law.  Then in a lame duck session the Republican controlled state government pass such a bill and then add to it that it can't be brought up for a state referendum.  Huh.  It the work of the Koch Brothers the Billionaires that want to control the whole country.   :rant:

  What is so bad is you with your past "work experience", minimum wage worker, who so stupid you believe all of the Koch brother bull shit.  :finger2:

The Troll

Quote from: The Troll on December 11, 2012, 06:23:02 PM
  Tell SCAB "ME" just why didn't the Republicans have public hearing on this bill.  Huh?  Why didn't SCAB Governor tell the union leaders that he wasn't interested in passing the Right to Work Law.  Then in a lame duck session the Republican controlled state government pass such a bill and then add to it that it can't be brought up for a state referendum.  Huh.  It the work of the Koch Brothers the Billionaires that want to control the whole country.   :rant:

  What is so bad is you with your past "work experience", minimum wage worker, who so stupid you believe all of the Koch brother bull shit.  :finger2:

  How the Right to Work law really works.  Caterpillar had a factory in Canada where they had 550 workers.  Caterpillar was paying them $23 per hour.  Caterpillar wanted to pay them $14 per hour, the workers said no.   :yes:

  What did Caterpillar do?  They closed down the plant and moved it to a Right To Work state, they moved it to Indiana where the SCAB workers was will to take $14 an hour to do the same jobs.   :yes:

  What Indiana needs to do is to fix the wages here in Indiana to wages paid in Africa.  That way the jobs sent to China would come back to Indiana and solve the unemployment problems Indiana has.   :yes:  just ask SCAB Hawk and SCAB "ME" about it.   :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:

Palehorse

Quote from: me on December 11, 2012, 04:33:38 PM
I do find it ironic that they have to bus people in and pay them to object.  Shouldn't that be up to the people in the state in question to protest instead?  Don't try to tell me they don't bus them in either 'cause if you think they don't you're only fooling yourself.
blah blah blah. You need some new material. Why would Michigan need to bus anyone in when they are home to some of the largest unionized entities in the nation? (Detroit automotive)

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me

Quote from: Palehorse on December 11, 2012, 10:13:34 PM
blah blah blah. You need some new material. Why would Michigan need to bus anyone in when they are home to some of the largest unionized entities in the nation? (Detroit automotive)

Engage brain before typing!
At this point I imagine Detroit would like to have jobs no matter what rather than getting paid a paltry sum by the union to protest. 
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on December 11, 2012, 06:14:20 PM
  All I ask SCAB.  Prove it.  You have to be one of the biggest lying SCAB I have ever seen.  You nothing but a lying SCAB snake Hawk.  :puke:

  Everything you just said is a lie.  While you're at it SCAB, :azz:

                                            The right to work laws mean the workers work for less.   :@#%&: SCABS  :trustme:

Hell Troll, prove to me that Unions are a good thing in Michigan!!.........Michigan is a hell hole, with NO F'ING jobs..........what exactly IS THE UNION DOING?..........Not too damn much, THAT IS A FACT!

Let's let the people decide if they want to pay union dues or if they want to work for a union at all....
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me

Here is what the unions are doing during the protests.  Wonderful bunch of people.  :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_F3oev06i0&feature=youtu.be
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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 12, 2012, 08:11:41 AM
Hell Troll, prove to me that Unions are a good thing in Michigan!!.........Michigan is a hell hole, with NO F'ING jobs..........what exactly IS THE UNION DOING?..........Not too damn much, THAT IS A FACT!

Let's let the people decide if they want to pay union dues or if they want to work for a union at all....

  If that person is a SCAB like you, then you don't try to find work at a union shop.  But SCABS like you who flourished under a union the UAW and never has had a union of any kind harm you in any way.  Want to worship the Koch brothers, ALEC the Koch brother's baby who wrote the Right Work Bill in Michigan and Indiana.  You as a asshole SCAB are out of your mind and against freedom and democracy. :rant:

  Michigan has made a great comeback, having one of the lowest unemployment in the nation.  Get your facts straight SCAB.  :finger2:

  I do know one thing SCAB, you and I could never be friends and you would never get any help or and kind thing from me SCAB HAWK.  :azz:

  You SCAB and SCAB "ME" make me sick at my stomach and one of the reasons I hate Republicans and the Republican with every fiber of my body.  :trustme:

                             :@#%&: Republican SCABS and you wonder where American freedom has gone.    :yes: :4th3:

Henry Hawk

Troll here are the facts for you: Michigan's unemployment rate is over 9%.  Detroit hovers somewhere above 30% unemployment!  Why?
Because the UAW has kept the wages and benefits higher than the market can take!  RTW is going to put people BACK to work.......sure it will not be the lavish wage it once was, but a good wage, with benifits is exactly what the people there NEED!

You can thank the republicans once unemployment goes back down and people are once again working...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 12, 2012, 11:12:15 AM
Troll here are the facts for you: Michigan's unemployment rate is over 9%.  Detroit hovers somewhere above 30% unemployment!  Why?
Because the UAW has kept the wages and benefits higher than the market can take!  RTW is going to put people BACK to work.......sure it will not be the lavish wage it once was, but a good wage, with benefits is exactly what the people there NEED!

You can thank the republicans once unemployment goes back down and people are once again working...

  Well, SCAB I'm glad the Republican Governor, the Republican controlled Senate and House of Michigan has did this in a lame duck session.   :yes:  You SCAB assholes have wakened a sleeping giant in Michigan and Wisconsin, the unions.

  It is amazing how when the Republicans get in control of every state house, they take the working man's and middle class people right away.  You SCAB Republicans will pay for this.   :rant:

  In Indiana there is no hope for the middle class working man.  There are to any stupid, uneducated, morons, SCABS in Indiana that vote Republican.  No hope at all.  That is unless some dumb ass Republican says that a baby that comes out of a rape is God's blessing and with Mike Pense as governor.  :haha:  :haha:  Now this is a Republican win.  :haha:

  SCAB, I don't think you will get what you wish for in the next 2,3,4, years.  The Right To Work Bill that was put in and the way it was done.  Is full of illegal actions.  The little Republican fiasco will keep this piece of shit in courts for years.  :haha:  We will see what happens in court and what happens in the 2014 Michigan election.   :biggrin:  The question will be is, "What Michigan Republican Party?"  :haha:

  This crime will be the Waterloo of the Republican Party in Michigan and turn the state into a true blue state.  Only 6% of the Michigan people are for the Right to Work Bill.  :knife:

  Just keep it up SCAB Republicans, war on women, war on women's pay, war on unions, war on the middle class, war on Mexicans and tax cut for the very rich.  The question will be, what Republican Party and a sure thing for Hilary Clinton.  Just think 16 years of Democratic control.  Why, we got them by the balls.   :wink: :biggrin:

                                                 :music1:  :music1: Oh happy days!  :music1:  :music1: Happy days are here again. :music1: :music1:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on December 12, 2012, 11:56:56 AM
Only 6% of the Michigan people are for the Right to Work Bill. 

Troll, that is a lie!  an outright lie, unless you have a source to prove it..........I DO have a souce that says likewise.....
[font=]Michigan voters favor right-to-work, 51-41[/font]

and btw, only 17.5% of Michigans citizens are Union workers.........
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW