You lost; get over it!

[The Troll]

blah, blah, blah...you mean if the democrat controlled congress would not have FORCED bad loans to be made.....the economy hadn't crashed.......
NOPE!  He graduated........served time in the Military.  NEVER got any food stamps.

  Your boy is now one of the biggest Socialist you have in your family Henry.     Every damn thing he has got, wages, food, clothes, where he lives, medical, dental, college, everything he buys all paid by the taxpayers of the United States and all he has to to is to show up to his desk job.    Right Henry:      You just got to love these phony bastards Republicans. 

[followsthewolf]

That is a very cool story FTW!   

That was a long, long time ago.

One of those things that shapes your attitudes for the rest of your life.

That guy helped a huge number of us dirt-poor scholarship-barely-paying-half-the-bills college kids, and we never knew it until later.

Helluva guy. Stayed in contact with him and his family for years, until he and his wife both died.

[Henry Hawk]

and THAT is the way it is supposed to work.......People taking care of people.  I love it. 

[followsthewolf]

Then why don't those who have made millions in a business think the same way?

He obviously didn't have millions, but he helped others anyway.

Imagine if all the corporate raiders, the fat cat CEO's and CFO's, etc. combined their efforts.

There's only one answer as to why they don't.

Greed and ego.

More toys, more homes, more one-up-man-ship at the club.

[Henry Hawk]

Then why don't those who have made millions in a business think the same way?

He obviously didn't have millions, but he helped others anyway.

Imagine if all the corporate raiders, the fat cat CEO's and CFO's, etc. combined their efforts.

There's only one answer as to why they don't.

Greed and ego.

More toys, more homes, more one-up-man-ship at the club.

who says they don't FTW?  I would bet that many of those "rich" owners and stock holders are very generous....You have no idea if they are selfish or giving....just because they are affiliated with a corporation does not mean they are evil.

Many of them are great philanthropists -

William Barron Hilton, co-chairman of the Hilton hotel chain who pledged late last year to give away 97% of his wealth—some $1.7 billion—to his family's humanitarian foundation

George Kaiser - CEO of BOK Finanial, from 2004-08 gave $2,377 million to charities...

Waltons - the world's richest family is also one of the most united when it comes to philanthropy. The secretive Waltons commit the bulk of their gifts through the Walton Family Foundation, which supports a variety of charitable causes.

The evil David Kock -  gives around $100 million every YEAR for some cause....a couple of years ago he gave $100 million to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology to fund cancer research...he gave over $400 million from 2004 - 2008 to charitable causes.

Home Depot founder Bernard Marcus gave $290 million to the Marcus Institute for children with disabilities and learning disorders, Autism Speaks (a national autism organization), and a state-of-the-art bioterrorism unit at the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention.

These guys do not HAVE to do this........but they do.

[Henry Hawk]

But it seems like as long as it is federal workers, everything is fine......Despite nearly $16 billion in annual losses announced by the Postal Sevice on Thursday, all but one of the top five executives for the nations mail service had an overall  compensation increase this year...Postmaster General Donahoe, for  instance, earned a base salary of $276,840, but even without a bonus or  incentive payout, his overall compensation came to $512,093, compared with  $384,229 in 2011, according to regulatory filings...

Now THAT is greedy bastards.......using the peoples money. 

[The Troll]

who says they don't FTW?  I would bet that many of those "rich" owners and stock holders are very generous....You have no idea if they are selfish or giving....just because they are affiliated with a corporation does not mean they are evil.

Many of them are great philanthropists -

William Barron Hilton, co-chairman of the Hilton hotel chain who pledged late last year to give away 97% of his wealth—some $1.7 billion—to his family's humanitarian foundation

George Kaiser - CEO of BOK Finanial, from 2004-08 gave $2,377 million to charities...

Waltons - the world's richest family is also one of the most united when it comes to philanthropy. The secretive Waltons commit the bulk of their gifts through the Walton Family Foundation, which supports a variety of charitable causes.

The evil David Kock -  gives around $100 million every YEAR for some cause....a couple of years ago he gave $100 million to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology to fund cancer research...he gave over $400 million from 2004 - 2008 to charitable causes.

Home Depot founder Bernard Marcus gave $290 million to the Marcus Institute for children with disabilities and learning disorders, Autism Speaks (a national autism organization), and a state-of-the-art bioterrorism unit at the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention.

These guys do not HAVE to do this........but they do.

  Henry was as it David or was it Charles Kock that gave his door man at his multimillion appartment in New York City $50 for Christmas.  Old Scrooge at work.   

[me]

  Henry was as it David or was it Charles Kock that gave his door man at his multimillion appartment in New York City $50 for Christmas.  Old Scrooge at work.   

Check and see if there is a sales tax on real estate in NY before you jump to conclusions Troll.  He may have had to charge him $50 to keep him from having to pay that or a gift tax on the actual amount the real estate was worth. 

[The Troll]

Check and see if there is a sales tax on real estate in NY before you jump to conclusions Troll.  He may have had to charge him $50 to keep him from having to pay that or a gift tax on the actual amount the real estate was worth.

  Huh?  You have lost a screw.    Will anyone on here tell me what the Wacko     said?        

[libby]

I don't mean to cry poor, but I sure wish I'd have had food stamps in my undergrad days.

I came from a home that did not have running water in it.

Ate bread sticks that I stole from restaurants in the area.

Went back later and paid for my bread sticks (and other assorted foodstuffs that I stole), only to find out that the waitresses knew I what I was doing all along.

I was so ashamed.

Gave the owner what I thought I had stolen, and he said he really didn't care; that we (obviously, there were others) would eventually do enough good in the world that, for him, it was an investment in the future.

That man taught me the difference between a greedy, nothing-is-enough owner, and a caring, thoughtful businessman.

A bunch of us got together and made sure he was able to retire and take care of his family.

Amazing man.

I can relate to your story. There are good people everywhere. When my father was dying of cancer and my mother had to apply for welfare, I was working at the local hospital and taking college classes part time, and helping my mother take care of him. My boss, a doctor, said the hospital didn't pay me enough to live on so used to hand me money out of his own pocket. I didn't want to take it (too proud) but did because I needed it. And the local pharmacist who filled my father's pain and other medication prescriptions charged me the bare minimum, told me I could pay a few dollars a month but if I couldn't afford that, not to worry about it. I am who, what I am today because of the kindness and generosity of those dear men and others like them.

[followsthewolf]

who says they don't FTW?  I would bet that many of those "rich" owners and stock holders are very generous....You have no idea if they are selfish or giving....just because they are affiliated with a corporation does not mean they are evil.

Many of them are great philanthropists -

William Barron Hilton, co-chairman of the Hilton hotel chain who pledged late last year to give away 97% of his wealth—some $1.7 billion—to his family's humanitarian foundation

George Kaiser - CEO of BOK Finanial, from 2004-08 gave $2,377 million to charities...

Waltons - the world's richest family is also one of the most united when it comes to philanthropy. The secretive Waltons commit the bulk of their gifts through the Walton Family Foundation, which supports a variety of charitable causes.

The evil David Kock -  gives around $100 million every YEAR for some cause....a couple of years ago he gave $100 million to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology to fund cancer research...he gave over $400 million from 2004 - 2008 to charitable causes.

Home Depot founder Bernard Marcus gave $290 million to the Marcus Institute for children with disabilities and learning disorders, Autism Speaks (a national autism organization), and a state-of-the-art bioterrorism unit at the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention.

These guys do not HAVE to do this........but they do.

-- And what part of their fortunes do they give to charity (or foundations, or whatever) in comparison to their total worth?
-- And what do they get to claim against their taxes when they do?

Not saying that some aren't true philanthropists, but it's like trying to find a diamond in your back yard; not impossible, but highly unlikely.

Ulterior motives.

[me]

  Huh?  You have lost a screw.    Will anyone on here tell me what the Wacko     said?        

Troll, have you not ever heard of gift tax?  If it was worth over so much and was given as a gift there would be a gift tax which would go by appraised value so it had to have a sale amount to keep from having to pay a gift tax.  If NY has a sales tax on real estate, some states do, it would have been charged at the appraised value just like sales tax on a used car, which is why some car lots work with you on the way they write your receipt. 

[The Troll]

Troll, have you not ever heard of gift tax?  If it was worth over so much and was given as a gift there would be a gift tax which would go by appraised value so it had to have a sale amount to keep from having to pay a gift tax.  If NY has a sales tax on real estate, some states do, it would have been charged at the appraised value just like sales tax on a used car, which is why some car lots work with you on the way they write your receipt.

   Pleeeese don't bullshit me "ME".  Here in Indiana the gift tax it $10,000 if it isn't to a political hack.     They get their payoff in campaign funds.   

  Here in Indiana you can give a gift up to $10,000 over that the giver has to pay tax on it.  So that lets you out, because your aren't a giver. 

   I just went over to Goggle and asked they how the gift tax worked in New York.     It really easy to check facts, as easy to get bullshit from the Republican Party.

  It says that you can give up to $13,000 to as many people you want as long as the gift don't go over $15.12 Million life limit.  So your Kock brother idol could have gave his door man $13,000 and neither one of them would have had to pay taxes on it.      Oh, that's right you don't have any money to give away, you just bought that Half a million dollar house. 

  Also for your information each Koch Brother is worth  $25 Billion each for a total of $50 Billion.  How about that I did a little math for yah.       Red of head.   

[The Troll]

But it seems like as long as it is federal workers, everything is fine......Despite nearly $16 billion in annual losses announced by the Postal Sevice on Thursday, all but one of the top five executives for the nations mail service had an overall  compensation increase this year...Postmaster General Donahoe, for  instance, earned a base salary of $276,840, but even without a bonus or  incentive payout, his overall compensation came to $512,093, compared with  $384,229 in 2011, according to regulatory filings...

Now THAT is greedy bastards.......using the peoples money. 

  What does your CEO's make in a year with less employees.  Hmmmmm?  They make millions and all kind of tax breaks.  Why you Mitt Romney payed only 13% on his $23 Million income.  Hummmm?  Just love the way you think.  I reminds me of a cupcake.  DING DONGS.   

  I just wish you could for one week of not saying something stupid, so I wouldn't have to jump  on your ass over it, all the time.  Skippy.   

[Exterminator]

What does your CEO's make in a year with less employees.

The CEO of our company makes over $66,000.00 an hour.  Try to wrap your head around that!