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Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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The Troll



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Henry Hawk

The facts are in....a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee has determined that it was indeed an attack and not a protest over a movie.  It could have been prevented, but the state department failed to act.

Of course nothing further will come of this....the MSM will let this one die....if they can. 

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 21, 2014, 12:16:47 PM
The facts are in....a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee has determined that it was indeed an attack and not a protest over a movie.  It could have been prevented, but the state department failed to act.

Of course nothing further will come of this....the MSM will let this one die....if they can.

  Henry, you seem to forget that the ambassador turned down more protection.  :yes:  He said, "these people are my friends".  :doh:

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 21, 2014, 12:16:47 PM
The facts are in....a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee has determined that it was indeed an attack and not a protest over a movie.  It could have been prevented, but the state department failed to act.

Of course nothing further will come of this....the MSM will let this one die....if they can.

Only congress would spend funds on creating a statement to restate a fact. . . Meanwhile, people starve by the tens of thousands in this very country, and thousands of families are in stark danger of losing everything they own; just because they REFUSE to extend unemployment benefits. . .  :rant:

Who is paying for all that time, effort, and flotsam? Not me. I want a refund and I want it now!  :rant:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on January 21, 2014, 07:40:02 PM
Only congress would spend funds on creating a statement to restate a fact. . . Meanwhile, people starve by the tens of thousands in this very country, and thousands of families are in stark danger of losing everything they own; just because they REFUSE to extend unemployment benefits. . .  :rant:

Who is paying for all that time, effort, and flotsam? Not me. I want a refund and I want it now!  :rant:
How much longer than 2 yrs do you want them extended for?  If a person can't find a job in that length of time something is definitely wrong. 
Trump 2020

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 21, 2014, 12:16:47 PM


Of course nothing further will come of this....the MSM will let this one die....if they can. 



I thought USA Today was part of the MSM as you guys are wont to call anything other than Fux News.  :confused:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

I am all for keeping anyone from starving in this country.  All the more reason to stimulate this economy in a fashion that will work for everyone.  Lets cut taxes for everyone for a few months.  Let small business have a few months to spend some of their own hard earned money on growing their business.  I am a fan of people spending money rather than government spending money.  THEN, perhaps this unemployement thing can become less of an issue.

With that being said, we need to keep those in charge HONEST.  Quit covering up mistakes where people are being killed. Benghazi is a prime example of that.

And now to piss some of you off for real.... :razz: .....FoxNews is by FAR the best thing on TV these days. ;)   If it was not for them, who knows how crooked things would be by now. 

Okay, I am going back to hybernating from news events........I get much less stressed.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 22, 2014, 08:38:06 AM
I am all for keeping anyone from starving in this country.  All the more reason to stimulate this economy in a fashion that will work for everyone.  Lets cut taxes for everyone for a few months.  Let small business have a few months to spend some of their own hard earned money on growing their business.  I am a fan of people spending money rather than government spending money.  THEN, perhaps this unemployment thing can become less of an issue.

With that being said, we need to keep those in charge HONEST.  Quit covering up mistakes where people are being killed. Benghazi is a prime example of that.

And now to piss some of you off for real.... :razz: .....FoxNews is by FAR the best thing on TV these days. ;)   If it was not for them, who knows how crooked things would be by now. 

Okay, I am going back to hibernating from news events........I get much less stressed.

  Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi, Henry you know Benghazi is all bullshit, I say Boy, Benghazi is all smoke and mirrors and BULLSHIT.  4 people killed.   :rant:

  How about the 5,500 men and women killed in Iraq and the more that 3,000 men and women killed in Afghanistan in the war George W. Bush started Bunky.   :rant:

  All of this smoke screen you Republican put out about Benghazi will disappear like a fart in a strong Indiana wind.  :zoners:

Palehorse

Quote from: me on January 21, 2014, 10:03:22 PM
How much longer than 2 yrs do you want them extended for?  If a person can't find a job in that length of time something is definitely wrong.

Where are you getting that 2 year figure from? Pulling it out of your 6, as usual, I suspect.

The fact is the State of Indiana provides 26 weeks. Period. After that you are at the mercy of the asshats in congress, whose latest sport includes holding unemployment funding hostage.

I have a family member that lost his job of 23+ years with Hostess in November of 2012. He got squat surrounding any kind of severance package. And he is 59 years old. He has applied for well in excess of the required 3 jobs each and every week since he lost his job. And has received a sum total of 1 interview. Just one. And he wasn't selected.

In November of 2013 he, like millions of other unemployed individuals, lost his unemployment when the federal funding ran out due to the congressional sport. And he still doesn't have a job, and is STILL applying for jobs. But now he is forced to start selling his possessions in order to keep the electricity on, and to pay for a new furnace when his broke down in December.

He doesn't have a college education and is in his 50's; both terminal aspects for an unemployed individual in this economy. My guess is he will be forced to sell his home before long, and move back into the house with his mother and father. How is that right?

Ageism is taking a huge toll on the current unemployed, but proving it to the legal standard required by law is all but impossible, especially for the employed but even more so for the unemployed.

The average wages being offered for the lions share of positions currently posted as open, have dropped 33% or more since 2007, and the educational requirements have more than doubled. Jobs requiring a high school diploma in 2007 are today requiring a 4 year college degree or better. And paying far less.

So yeah, something is wrong! But it isn't with the people who have lost their livelihoods due to no fault of their own, as your post insinuates.

It is obvious that you take the instinctive path on every aspect of life; the path requiring the least amount of effort. And it is easy for you because you are comfortable with your life and your income stream. One has to wonder what you would do if that income stream were abruptly shut off, as it has been for millions of families across this nation.

Moreover, one also has to wonder how you would survive on 10 bucks an hour, with an outstanding student loan debt level of 40-100,000 dollars to pay off. Does it make sense to anyone that one would go to the expense of incurring a forty to one hundred thousand dollar debt in order to obtain a 4 year degree from an accredited institution of higher learning, only to have to work for 10 bucks an hour? Do the math. It is impossible. And yet, that is EXACTLY what the job market in central Indiana is like today; and the way it has been since 2007.

I was one of the very few fortunate ones that was in the 50+, college degree category, that was able to find a job paying better than 10 bucks an hour. Yet, I none-the-less took a 33% cut in income to get it. And had to sit on the sidelines for 19 months, having my unemployment funds held hostage numerous times in that time-span, and being forced to dip into my retirement funding in order to prevent myself from being homeless over it. (And the only debt I carry is my mortgage payment).

So you had better do at least a modicum of investigation before you go throwing everyone unemployed under that bus of ignorance your are driving lady.  :rant:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Yes, what you're talking about is unfortunate and those are extenuating circumstances but there are those, and many more of them unfortunately, who are taking advantage of the system and just staying on unemployment as long as the law allows.  I'm not in the mood to go into this any further for reasons I won't disclose but a lot of things need to change because if they don't things are only going to get worse and no one will have anything.
Trump 2020

The Troll


  It is getting so bad the it takes a college education to work on an assembly line in a manufacturing plant.   :yes:

  What is so bad is there isn't any manufacturing plants. :yes:  Over  55,000 plants have been shut down.  Thanks to George H. Bush's NAFTA and free trade Republicans.  :zoners:

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 27, 2014, 12:08:08 PM
:rolleyes:

  How could I be surprised at what the Sqwawkie Hawkie thinks about what I said.   :sa: :biggrin:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on January 27, 2014, 02:50:58 PM
  How could I be surprised at what the Sqwawkie Hawkie thinks about what I said.   :sa: :biggrin:

I was going to go into my UAW rant, on how they screwed things up, but I decided not to do that.  That would be "trollish"... :sa: :biggrin:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW