Anti-Islam film incites violence

[Locutus]

blaming Christians for this...THAT is clueless

Do you have problems reading or something?  Reports are today that Christians are behind the film. 


The filmmaker who produced an incendiary, anti-Muslim movie that stirred extremists Tuesday to storm the U.S. embassy in Egypt and may be linked to the fatal attack on the U.S. ambassador in Libya may have gone into hiding, as doubts rose as to his true identity.

Following yesterday's riots, a California man calling himself Sam Bacile took credit for making the film "Innocence of the Muslims" and identified himself as an Israeli Jew in two news interviews. In an interview with the Associated Press, he called Islam "a cancer."

But a search of public records and inconsistencies in Bacile's own accounts, as well as information from a radical Christian who helped produced the movie all suggest that "Sam Bacile" is a pseudonym and is not Israeli but an Arab Christian.

"I've met him twice. He is not a citizen of Israel. He is in hiding," Steve Klein, a member of a far-right anti-Islamic Christian group who says he helped with the film's production, told ABC News.

Klein said Bacile was not Israeli or Jewish, and suggested he was an Arab Christian who was a U.S. citizen.

Three U.S. Christian groups, including two identified as hate groups by the Southern Poverty Law Council, and a third that advocates for Egyptian Christians, or Copts, have been linked to the production or eventual distribution of the movie.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/sam-bacile-anti-islam-filmmakers-bio-add/story?id=17222103#.UFIc3EKifoE

[Henry Hawk]

"no doubt" it was a planned attack and had  nothing to do with the film.
"It was a coordinated, military-style, commando-type raid," House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers said.  Based on his own briefings, Rogers said "military movements" were  involved.
"This was a well- planned, well-targeted event. No doubt about it," Rogers  said. He said the Al Qaeda-linked Imprisoned Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades is one  group being looked at by officials.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/13/consulate-attack-planned-as-2-part-militant-assault-libyan-official-says/#ixzz26NDuxME9

[Locutus]

"no doubt" it was a planned attack and had  nothing to do with the film.
"It was a coordinated, military-style, commando-type raid," House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers said.  Based on his own briefings, Rogers said "military movements" were  involved.
"This was a well- planned, well-targeted event. No doubt about it," Rogers  said. He said the Al Qaeda-linked Imprisoned Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades is one  group being looked at by officials.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/13/consulate-attack-planned-as-2-part-militant-assault-libyan-official-says/#ixzz26NDuxME9

Like I said, segregate what each post is referencing.  I don't think anyone here is denying the fact that the assault on the consulate in Libya was planned, but there is also violence resulting from the film that is currently ongoing and spreading.  It now appears that the film was made by Christians and blamed on the Jews, and that no such person named Bacile even exists.   

[Exterminator]

It now appears that the film was made by Christians and blamed on the Jews, and that no such person named Bacile even exists.

Apparently Fox news hasn't yet fed that little tidbit to Henry.  And we're the ones who are clueless...

[Locutus]

Apparently Fox news hasn't yet fed that little tidbit to Henry.  And we're the ones who are clueless...

Damn!!  All it takes is an ability to read what we're posting which is supported by the links.  Unfortunately, even that seems lacking. 

[Henry Hawk]

what part of "no doubt" it was a planned attack and had  nothing to do with the film." don't you understand?

You say "I" am lacking the ability to read? 

[Locutus]

what part of "no doubt" it was a planned attack and had  nothing to do with the film." don't you understand?

You say "I" am lacking the ability to read? 

I'm going to have to try Olias' technique.

---VVV

Segregate the discussion between the planned attack and the violence resulting from the film.

Segregate the discussion between the planned attack and the violence resulting from the film.

Segregate the discussion between the planned attack and the violence resulting from the film.

Segregate the discussion between the planned attack and the violence resulting from the film.

Segregate the discussion between the planned attack and the violence resulting from the film.

Segregate the discussion between the planned attack and the violence resulting from the film.

[Locutus]

Also HH, if you would bother to read, I was one of the first ones that acknowledged that the attack in Libya was planned in advance.  Appears that the problem with reading and comprehension is on your end. 

CNN is reporting that the Libyan attack came in two waves and was planned in advance.  So we may be talking about two topics here.   The movie that incited the protests and a well planned attack by a pro-al Qaeda group. 

[Henry Hawk]

I'm going to have to try Olias' technique.

---VVV

Segregate the discussion between the planned attack and the violence resulting from the film.

Segregate the discussion between the planned attack and the violence resulting from the film.

Segregate the discussion between the planned attack and the violence resulting from the film.

Segregate the discussion between the planned attack and the violence resulting from the film.

Segregate the discussion between the planned attack and the violence resulting from the film.

Segregate the discussion between the planned attack and the violence resulting from the film.

and YOU do the same
and YOU do the same
and YOU do the same
and YOU do the same
and YOU do the same
and YOU do the same

[Locutus]

and YOU do the same
and YOU do the same
and YOU do the same
and YOU do the same
and YOU do the same
and YOU do the same

I did.  See this?   ------V

CNN is reporting that the Libyan attack came in two waves and was planned in advance.  So we may be talking about two topics here.   The movie that incited the protests and a well planned attack by a pro-al Qaeda group. 

^---- Right there. 

[Henry Hawk]

Also HH, if you would bother to read, I was one of the first ones that acknowledged that the attack in Libya was planned in advance.  Appears that the problem with reading and comprehension is on your end. 

and I am saying, based upon what I have read, the movie is just an excuse for the attacks.......the build up has been long coming.

I bet the vast majority of those rioting NEVER saw the movie,...the Al Qaeda used it to fire up the troops.

[Exterminator]

"A day without sunshine is like, you know, night."

Or it could just mean that you have your head up your ass.

[Henry Hawk]

Or it could just mean that you have your head up your ass.

Nope, I clearly see what the rest of Americans are clearly seeing....and Nov, I will prove it to you.

[Locutus]

I bet the vast majority of those rioting NEVER saw the movie,...the Al Qaeda used it to fire up the troops.

I'll give you 50% on that.  You're right that most haven't seen the film.  The film has actually been on the Internet since July, and it was only after Arab media outlets picked up on it, and put Arabic subtitles on it, that the protests and violence started.  The only part of this violence that you can segregate from the film, is the planned attack on the consulate in Benghazi.  The rest of this is all film related:

• Russia says it fears "chaos" in the Middle East and Saudi Arabia condemns both the film and the violence


• Iranians chanting anti-US and anti-Israel slogans stage a protest outside the Swiss embassy in the Iranian capital, Tehran, which represents US interests


• Afghan President Hamid Karzai has postponed a planned visit to Norway, fearing violence could erupt in his country


• There were small protests in Bangladesh and Iraq, in addition to Morocco, Sudan and Tunisia

[Henry Hawk]

the bottom line is, the HATE America, they don't really need a film to "incite" violence.......

this whole issue has become about a film that was made, and ignoring that riots and violence is continuing.......and those who think that this film is the reason, for centuries worth of violence.......is clueless.

we need to quit pandering over this film, and stand up to this BS.  Which Obam IS doing. I will give him credit for that.