SCOTUS upholds Affordable Care Act in its entirety!

[Locutus]

How is it a lie.  There are currently many tens of thousands of people in jail for tax-related charges. Especially those who choose NOT to pay taxes INTENTIONALLY.

Is it NOT possible, there will be those who choose "NOT to be forced" to buy something they do NOT WANT....the IRS will be the collecting agencey now, since the Courts ruled it IS a tax.  The IRS has put plenty in jail for tax evasion.  "Apparently" you did not KNOW something, huh?

show me, where it is in the law, that the IRS cannot impose penalties, including jail time to those who choose NOT to pay taxes owed to them.

Jeezus HH!  I'll look it up in a little bit and post it but Roberts even mentioned it in his ruling.  Saying that people can go to jail for failure to comply with fees mandated by the ACA is a lie.  There's no way around it.

Excerpts:

Congress specifically did not allow the use of liens and seizures of property as methods of enforcing the penalty.
Non-compliance with the mandate is also not subject to criminal or civil penalties under the Tax Code and interest does not accrue for failure to pay the penalty in a timely manner, according to the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation.

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NBC's Pete Williams reported that Roberts reasoned that "there's no real compulsion here" since those who do not pay the penalty for not having insurance can't be sent to jail. "This is one of the scenarios that administration officials had considered that if the court did this they would consider it a big victory," Williams said.

[Locutus]

^^ Now don't let that stop you and 'me' from continuing your fear mongering and lying.  I said it before and I'll say it again.  When you implied jail time for failure to comply with the ACA, it was a flat out lie, either made knowingly or unknowingly. 

[Locutus]

If this stuff weren't so sad, it would be funny.

Unbelievable, isn't it??

[Exterminator]

...it was a flat out lie, either made knowingly or unknowingly.

Was; not it's absolutely being made knowingly.

[Locutus]

The abject ignorance and stupidity is beyond belief. 

[Exterminator]

The abject ignorance and stupidity is beyond belief.

You say that like it's a new thing.   

[The Troll]

The good news is, we can fix this mess, and we are engergized now to vote those sons of bitches out!

  I agree, we vote out every one of the cheating, lying fuck head Republican Congressman in every political office in the country.   

[Locutus]

Amazingly silent since the lies have been pointed out. 

[me]

Just still hoping HH and I aren't the ones saying "I told ya so."

[Bo D]

Amazingly silent since the lies have been pointed out. 

S.O.P.

[Locutus]

S.O.P.

Yep.  And unfortunately it's S.O.P. for a certain segment of the voting population all across this country. 

[Henry Hawk]

^^ Now don't let that stop you and 'me' from continuing your fear mongering and lying.  I said it before and I'll say it again.  When you implied jail time for failure to comply with the ACA, it was a flat out lie, either made knowingly or unknowingly. 

It took me some time to find the time to read the ruling.

and I surrender and stand corrected pertaining the jail time.  This WAS indeed part of the original Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962)
http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=153583

This is what happens when the SOH Pelosi, tells everyone that "we have to pass the bill to see what exactly is in the bill".

With that being said, I still find it hard to believe that "jail time" or stiffer penalties would soon be applied.  As it is now, there is no REAL punishment to NOT pay.

I think we are not going to see how much of this whole bill plays out for yet a couple of years.

But, I throw up the white flag, and aaaaaaaa....adddddddddd.......admiiiiiii...........this is hard.   

Admit! (there I said it)....I got (this one) wrong. 

[followsthewolf]

That's  , Henry.

[me]

http://www.votersmarket.com/NewTaxes.aspx


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The Obamacare Taxes (Over $500 Billion in New Taxes)  Last update: June 29, 2012
Year    Description    Revenue
          
2010    Tax on Innovator Drug Companies: $2.3 billion annual tax on the industry imposed relative to share of sales made that year.    $22.2 Billion
          
2010    Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals: $50,000 per hospital if they fail to meet new "community health assessment needs," "financial assistance," and "billing and collection" rules set by HHS.    
          
2010    Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike: The special tax deduction in current law for Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies would only be allowed if 85 percent or more of premium revenues are spent on clinical services.    $0.4 Billion
          
2010    Tax on Indoor Tanning Services: New 10 percent excise tax on Americans using indoor tanning salons.    $2.7 Billion
          
2010    "Black liquor" tax Credit. This is a tax increase on a type of bio-fuel.  This substance, a wood-pulping byproduct, is utilized as a biofuel to generate electricity for paper-making companies throughout the U.S    $23.6 Billion
          
2010    Codification of the "economic substance doctrine".  This provision allows the IRS to disallow completely-legal tax deductions and other legal tax-minimizing plans just because the IRS deems that the action lacks "substance" and is merely intended to reduce taxes owed.    $4.5 Billion
          
2011    Medicine Cabinet Tax: Americans no longer able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin).    $5 Billion
          
2011    Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2: Preamble to taxing health benefits on individual tax returns.    
          
2011    Increase penalty for nonqualified HSA distributions.    $1.4 Billion
          
2011    Annual tax on drug manufacturers / importers.    $27 Billion
          
2012    Corporate 1099-MISC Information Reporting: Requires businesses to send 1099-MISC information tax forms to corporations (currently limited to individuals), a huge compliance burden for small employers.    $17.1 Billion
          
2013    Increase In Medicare Payroll Tax (For single employees making over $200,000/year and married employees making over $250,000/year): Payroll Tax currently at 1.45% increases to 2.9%.  Self-employed tax is increased to 3.8%.    $86.8 Billion
          
2013    Surtax on Other Investment Income: A new, 3.8 percent surtax on "Other" investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single).  Taxes are increased from 39.6% to 43.4%  Other unearned income includes (for surtax purposes) gross income from interest, annuities, royalties, net rents, and passive income in partnerships and Subchapter-S corporations. It does not include municipal bond interest or life insurance proceeds, since those do not add to gross income. It does not include active trade or business income, fair market value sales of ownership in pass-through entities, or distributions from retirement plans. The 3.8% surtax does not apply to non-resident aliens.  It DOES however, include the sale of your home.    $123 Billion
          
2013    Flexible Spending Account Cap – aka "Special Needs Kids Tax": Imposes cap of $2500 (Indexed to inflation after 2013) on FSAs (now unlimited). . There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children.

There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education.

Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education.    $13 Billion
          
2013    Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers: Medical device manufacturers employ 360,000 people in 6000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3% excise tax. Exemptions include items retailing for less than $100.    $20 Billion
          
2013    Raise "Haircut" for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10% of AGI: Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI; it is waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only.    $15.2 Billion
          
2013    Elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D.    $4.5 Billion
          
2013    $500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives.    $0.6 Billion
          
2013    Limit deduction for remuneration to officers, employees, directors, and service providers of certain health insurance providers.    $0.6 Billion
          
2013    Impose fee on insured and self-insured health plans; patient-centered outcomes research trust fund.    $2.6 Billion
          
2014    Individual Health Insurance Mandate:
Starting in 2014, you will be required to obtain qualified health insurance for yourself and any dependants or pay a penalty (tax) for every month you are not covered. You are allowed a coverage gap of less than 90 days every year.

The penalty begins in 2014 and phases up to its maximum amount in 2016. You will either have to pay a set dollar amount of $695 per year (adjusted for inflation) or 2.5% of your base household income, whichever is higher. Your base income is defined as any amount over the filing threshold for the applicable tax year.

The penalty is assessed for every person in your house who does not have insurance up to a cap of 300 percent of the set dollar amount. In 2016, this cap would be $2,085. If you are a dependent under 18, your set dollar amount is cut in half.

If you are required to pay a penalty but fail to do so, you will receive a notice from Internal Revenue Service (IRS). If you still fail to pay, the IRS can reduce the amount of your future tax refunds by the amount owed. Also, if you fail to pay, your penalty will double.
   $17 Billion
          
2014    Employer Mandate Tax: If an employer does not offer health coverage, and at least one employee qualifies for a health tax credit, the employer must pay an additional non-deductible tax of $2000 for every full-time employee. This provision applies to all employers with 50 or more employees. If any employee actually receives coverage through the exchange, the penalty on the employer for that employee rises to $3000. If the employer requires a waiting period to enroll in coverage of 30-60 days, there is a $400 tax per employee ($600 if the period is 60 days or longer).    $65 Billion

(Combined individual and employer mandate tax penalty.)
          
2014    Tax on Health Insurers: Annual tax on the industry imposed relative to health insurance premiums collected that year. The stipulation phases in gradually until 2018, and is fully-imposed on firms with $50 million in profits.    $60.1 Billion
          
2018    Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans: New 40 percent excise tax on "Cadillac" health insurance plans ($10,200 single/$27,500 family). For early retirees and high-risk professions a higher threshold exists: ($11,500 single/$29,450 family). CPI +1 percentage point indexed.    $32 Billion
          
          
     Other Targets    
          
          
          
2011    Charitable Contributions from IRAs no longer allowed. Under current law, a retired person with an IRA can contribute up to $100,000 per year directly to a charity from their IRA. This contribution also counts toward an annual "required minimum distribution." This ability will no longer be there.    
     Tax Benefits for Education and Teaching Reduced. The deduction for tuition and fees will not be available. Tax credits for education will be limited. Teachers will no longer be able to deduct classroom expenses. Education Savings Accounts will be cut. Employer-provided educational assistance is curtailed. The student loan interest deduction will be disallowed for hundreds of thousands of families.    
     Small business expensing will be slashed and 50% expensing will disappear. Small businesses can normally expense (rather than slowly-deduct, or "depreciate") equipment purchases up to $250,000. This will be cut all the way down to $25,000. Larger businesses can expense half of their purchases of equipment. In January of 2011, all of it will have to be "depreciated."    
     The AMT will ensnare over 28 million families, up from 4 million last year. According to the left-leaning Tax Policy Center, Congress' failure to index the AMT will lead to an explosion of AMT taxpaying families—rising from 4 million last year to 28.5 million. These families will have to calculate their tax burdens twice, and pay taxes at the higher level. The AMT was created in 1969 to ensnare a handful of taxpayers.    
     Higher taxes on marriage and family. The "marriage penalty" (narrower tax brackets for married couples) will return from the first dollar of income. The child tax credit will be cut in half from $1000 to $500 per child. The standard deduction will no longer be doubled for married couples relative to the single level. The dependent care and adoption tax credits will be cut.    
     Federal payments required by President Barack Obama's health care law are being understated by as much as $50 billion per year because official budget forecasts ignore the cost of insuring many employees' spouses and children, according to a new analysis.    $500 Billion
2012    Cuts from Medicare To Help Fund Obamacare    $500 Billion
2012    Cuts from Medicare Advantage To Help Fund Obamacare    $132 Billion
2012    The Medicare Part B premium will increase from the present monthly fee of $96.40, rising to $104.20 in 2012, $120.20 in 2013, and $247 in 2014. That's an increase of 156 percent in just three years. Those provisions are embedded in Obamacare but were delayed by the Democratic bill writers until after the 2012 election in order to hide them from voters.

[The Troll]

  OK Rose Blossom, I have heard you babble forever about ObamaCare.  Now that it is the law of the land.  LAW OF THE LAND.  Please tell us why you got your panties all bunched up in your butt crack over it.   

  It's about time we got medical care for everybody.  Of course you have been living pretty high off off the hog with your union health benefits and your Medicare and Social Security and the tax cut Obama got for you.  Why can't everybody have the same thing that you have had all of your miserable live.  Why?  This message is for the big broad who has her panties all bunched up.