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SCOTUS upholds Affordable Care Act in its entirety!

Started by Locutus, June 28, 2012, 10:35:29 AM

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The Troll

#60
June 28, 2012, 02:33:33 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 28, 2012, 02:30:07 PM
obama lied....and must be tried!

I just made that up...pretty catchy huh?   ;D

  I know what to do.  Get Issa to impeach the Supreme Court, and get that damn liberal Roberts.  :hanged:  Other than that :nocomment:

Henry Hawk

#61
June 28, 2012, 02:39:02 PM
Quote from: The Troll on June 28, 2012, 02:33:33 PM
  I know what to do.  Get Issa to impeach the Supreme Court, and get that damn liberal Roberts.  :hanged:  Other than that :nocomment:

the supreme court is fine....roberts is fine.  But Holder is going to be gone soon, and now that Obama is a proven liar.....so will he....... :haha:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#62
June 28, 2012, 02:52:26 PM
The only people who will have to pay under the individual mandate are people who can afford to purchase insurance but choose not to.  If you'd rather forego buying insurance so that you can drive a Cadillac instead of a Chevy, you get to pay and you deserve to because while I am not opposed to helping those who really need it, paying for the health care costs for people like that does sort of gripe my ass and it should yours as well.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#63
June 28, 2012, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 28, 2012, 02:52:26 PM
The only people who will have to pay under the individual mandate are people who can afford to purchase insurance but choose not to.  If you'd rather forego buying insurance so that you can drive a Cadillac instead of a Chevy, you get to pay and you deserve to because while I am not opposed to helping those who really need it, paying for the health care costs for people like that does sort of gripe my ass and it should yours as well.

And it does gripe my ass too,

Ex, does this not open the flood gates for congress to force Americans to buy anything they choose, and say if you don't, you will be taxed?  If you don't pay the tax, the IRS will enforce this law, and you go to jail.

The precident has been set now.

Such as, in order to save electricity, you MUST buy solar panels.  If you don't you will pay a tax.  If you don't pay a tax, you CAN go to jail or pay a fine.

Is this NOT about as anti-American as we can get?

This Bill is going bring people out in flocks to vote...and I think justifiably so.  It IS a bad law.

Something needs to be done, but this bill is NOT the way.  It is going to take away our freedoms.  Watch and see.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#64
June 28, 2012, 03:50:12 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 28, 2012, 03:23:34 PM
Ex, does this not open the flood gates for congress to force Americans to buy anything they choose, and say if you don't, you will be taxed?  If you don't pay the tax, the IRS will enforce this law, and you go to jail.

That's one of the most ridiculous suggestions I've ever read.

How is being forced by the state to buy automobile insurance from a private company fundamentally different than being forced to buy health insurance by the federal government?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#65
June 28, 2012, 03:57:55 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 28, 2012, 03:50:12 PM
That's one of the most ridiculous suggestions I've ever read.

How is being forced by the state to buy automobile insurance from a private company fundamentally different than being forced to buy health insurance by the federal government?

There is NOW a precident, that our federal government can FORCE us to buy anything they wish, as long as they have the votes....to mandate or pay a tax.

can they not, say all Americans MUST drive a hybrid car or pay a tax?  of coarse if you don't pay your taxes, the IRS is on your ass, and could take you to jail.

this is a bad bill....and the ruling of it, has set a precident for things to come.


We did not exhaust all the ideas of allowing the free market to fix this mess.  The government stepped in, and I have all the confidence it will be for the worse...for ALL Americans, especially those who had good insurance.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#66
June 28, 2012, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 28, 2012, 03:57:55 PM
There is NOW a precident, that our federal government can FORCE us to buy anything they wish, as long as they have the votes....to mandate or pay a tax.

can they not, say all Americans MUST drive a hybrid car or pay a tax?  of coarse if you don't pay your taxes, the IRS is on your ass, and could take you to jail.

this is a bad bill....and the ruling of it, has set a precident for things to come.

We did not exhaust all the ideas of allowing the free market to fix this mess.  The government stepped in, and I have all the confidence it will be for the worse...for ALL Americans, especially those who had good insurance.

Oh, crap, I see it now and you're right!  The next thing you know they're going to make us buy cars with two headlights, a third brake light, turn signals, air bags and safety belts.  Then they'll make us buy car seats for our freakin' kids!

This shit changes everything!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#67
June 28, 2012, 04:15:47 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 28, 2012, 04:09:19 PM
Oh, crap, I see it now and you're right!  The next thing you know they're going to make us buy cars with two headlights, a third brake light, turn signals, air bags and safety belts.  Then they'll make us buy car seats for our freakin' kids!

This shit changes everything!

make light of it now, but when YOU have to quit sky diving because our government thinks it is too dangerous or no longer able to have a german shepard because they are too mean.  We will see.

they now have more powers than they did a few hours ago.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

#68
June 28, 2012, 04:18:45 PM
Holy cow HH!  It's really not that bad.  Jeezus!!
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Exterminator

#69
June 28, 2012, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 28, 2012, 04:15:47 PM
make light of it now, but when YOU have to quit sky diving because our government thinks it is too dangerous or no longer able to have a german shepard because they are too mean.  We will see.

they now have more powers than they did a few hours ago.

When they tell me I have to wire my house a certain way, I'm really going to go off!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

#70
June 28, 2012, 04:25:10 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 28, 2012, 04:15:47 PM
they now have more powers than they did a few hours ago.


That ruling, had you bothered to read it, was specifically worded not to expand government powers.   I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because you're at work, but please read it and explain to me how that's an expansion of government powers as you so claim. 

You think Chief Justice John Roberts would vote in favor of such a massive expansion of powers like you're claiming?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

#71
June 28, 2012, 04:27:15 PM
Quote from: Locutus on June 28, 2012, 04:18:45 PM
Holy cow HH!  It's really not that bad.  Jeezus!!

maybe not, but there IS a real STANDARD set with this ruling.....that COULD lead to more control.  They (the federal government) just decided today, we HAVE to buy a commodity or be subject to a tax.  When my employer drops my insurance now, due to restrictive policies, I will be forced to buy out of my pocket, at a cost that lord knows what it will be.

It is NOT making things better...but making things worse.

thanks
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#72
June 28, 2012, 04:27:48 PM
Quote from: Locutus on June 28, 2012, 04:25:10 PM
That ruling, had you bothered to read it, was specifically worded not to expand government powers.   I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because you're at work, but please read it and explain to me how that's an expansion of government powers as you so claim. 

You think Chief Justice John Roberts would vote in favor of such a massive expansion of powers like you're claiming?

he did.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

#73
June 28, 2012, 04:29:03 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 28, 2012, 03:57:55 PM
There is NOW a precident, that our federal government can FORCE us to buy anything they wish, as long as they have the votes....to mandate or pay a tax.

can they not, say all Americans MUST drive a hybrid car or pay a tax?  of coarse if you don't pay your taxes, the IRS is on your ass, and could take you to jail.

this is a bad bill....and the ruling of it, has set a precident for things to come.


We did not exhaust all the ideas of allowing the free market to fix this mess.  The government stepped in, and I have all the confidence it will be for the worse...for ALL Americans, especially those who had good insurance.

  Yes, in time of need the USA government can make you go a lot of things.  Like draft your ass into the military, take an oath giving up all of your freedoms.

  Send your ass to war.  Like the men in World War I, in World II, Korea and Vietnam.  Getting your ass blown off and injured so bad you're brain dead.  For me was was $88 a month.  Wow!  I made that in one week when I got back to Ford.  :cry: baby.

  Don't give me all that shit :cry: cry baby.  It's about time that we joined the rest of the forward moving countries who have medical care for all  When we get it, you will enjoy it, just like I enjoy Medicare.   Henry, grow up and be a man about it.  :doh:

  Man Up, damn it.  :haha:  :haha:

Palehorse

#74
June 28, 2012, 06:12:13 PM
Hystrionic personality disorder. Yep, describes the conservative GOP!
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