Sandusky Trial

[Palehorse]

(CNN) -- Penn State University will be hit with fines in excess of $30 million as part of "significant, unprecedented penalties" expected to be announced Monday by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, a source familiar with the case told CNN on Sunday.
While the school's football program will not face the so-called "death penalty" that would have prevented the team from playing in the fall, the school might have preferred a one-year suspension because of the severity of the scholarship losses, postseason sanctions and other penalties, the source said.. . .

[The Troll]

(CNN) -- Penn State University will be hit with fines in excess of $30 million as part of "significant, unprecedented penalties" expected to be announced Monday by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, a source familiar with the case told CNN on Sunday.
While the school's football program will not face the so-called "death penalty" that would have prevented the team from playing in the fall, the school might have preferred a one-year suspension because of the severity of the scholarship losses, postseason sanctions and other penalties, the source said.. . .

  Yep, when it all boils down to a thick goo, it's all about the money.  $30 million to the National Collegiate Athletic Association.  What are they going to do with the money.  Give it to some of it to the kids that were molested or give their officials a great big bonus for sticking it to Penn State.  What a con game and farce.     Give the money to some kids that need an education.  The damn greedy bastards.   

[Henry Hawk]

My opinion says the Penn St needs to accept WHATEVER penalty the NCAA decides to give them, with a smile!  They need to take it one step further than what the NCAA offers them...they MUST show the country that they are remorseful for their actions or better yet, lack of actions...

[The Troll]

My opinion says the Penn St needs to accept WHATEVER penalty the NCAA decides to give them, with a smile!  They need to take it one step further than what the NCAA offers them...they MUST show the country that they are remorseful for their actions or better yet, lack of actions...

You use the word "they" rather loosely.  Who are they.  The whole college, the teachers, the students, the gardeners, the cleaning and  repair staff.  Like I said before, why should Penn State pay NCAA 30 Million dollars.   When 99.8% of the people had nothing to do with the rapes or not reporting them, which the coach did to the campass police.

  Does paying Million of dollars to a athletic organization wipe out the shame.  Just where does the right under law to force a college to pay fines for the wrong doing of a few, the foot ball players and the under staff didn't know a damn thing about it.  The upper leaders morally they committed a sin, if you're religious.  As far as the law, no crime was committed by the staff.

  Name the law where the NCAA has the right to fine them $30,000,000.  If they take it to court and most likely they will.  I want on the jury.      Henry you're whole life revolves around and about money, as long as you don't have to pay for it.  Right? 

[Henry Hawk]

   You use the word "they" rather loosely.  Who are they.  The whole college, the teachers, the students, the gardeners, the cleaning and  repair staff.  Like I said before, why should Penn State pay NCAA 30 Million dollars.   When 99.8% of the people had nothing to do with the rapes or not reporting them, which the coach did to the campass police.

  Does paying Million of dollars to a athletic organization wipe out the shame.  Just where does the right under law to force a college to pay fines for the wrong doing of a few, the foot ball players and the under staff didn't know a damn thing about it.  The upper leaders morally they committed a sin, if you're religious.  As far as the law, no crime was committed by the staff.

  Name the law where the NCAA has the right to fine them $30,000,000.  If they take it to court and most likely they will.  I want on the jury.      Henry you're whole life revolves around and about money, as long as you don't have to pay for it.  Right? 

No, I just believe that people have to be accountable for their actions....I'm talking about Penn St. the administration.  The lack of actions by them is inexcusable.  Lets see what the NCAA deals them...I bet there will be NO trial....Penn St will take the punch and move on if they have an ounce of class left in them.

[Henry Hawk]

The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998.....The career record of Joe Paterno will reflect these vacated records, the NCAA said.
Penn State must also reduce 10 initial and 20 total scholarships each year for a four-year period.

[Bo D]

The NCAA has hit Penn State with a $60 million sanction, a four-year football postseason ban and a vacation of all wins dating to 1998.....The career record of Joe Paterno will reflect these vacated records, the NCAA said.
Penn State must also reduce 10 initial and 20 total scholarships each year for a four-year period.

I am still struggling with this whole thing, trying to get my head around it.

But what do these sanctions really do to the people who participated in the cover-up of the crimes? They get to keep their jobs, from what I have heard.

[Henry Hawk]

I am still struggling with this whole thing, trying to get my head around it.

But what do these sanctions really do to the people who participated in the cover-up of the crimes? They get to keep their jobs, from what I have heard.

Just passing on the info as I see it come in....

"No price the NCAA can levy with repair the damage inflicted by Jerry Sandusky on his victims," he said, referring to the former Penn State defensive coordinator convicted of 45 counts of child sex abuse last month.

The NCAA said the $60 million was equivalent to the average annual revenue of the football program. The NCAA ordered Penn State to pay the penalty funds into an endowment for "external programs preventing child sexual abuse or assisting victims and may not be used to fund such programs at the university."

[Bo D]

Just passing on the info as I see it come in....

I know. I just think there should be some more jail time passed out.

[Palehorse]

I know. I just think there should be some more jail time passed out.

And there may very well be. Remember, there are several other members of the administration awaiting trial.

[Palehorse]

The NCAA is taking steps to eliminate Paterno's name from the record books by taking away the records from 1998 on and removing him as the winningest coach.

But if we think about the 60 million fine, just who is going to really pay it? The students and their families I am thinking. If the University loses 60 million from its coffers it will make it back in tuition increases. 

[Henry Hawk]

But if we think about the 60 million fine, just who is going to really pay it? The students and their families I am thinking. If the University loses 60 million from its coffers it will make it back in tuition increases. 

That is a great point...maybe the admin involved should be subject to the fine, or maybe optional work a "said amount of years" at 1/2 the salary & benifits.
But you are correct, they will just take it out on the tuition costs....but another thing to remember, they are going to have less kids interested in attending.

[Palehorse]

. . .
But you are correct, they will just take it out on the tuition costs....but another thing to remember, they are going to have less kids interested in attending.

. . .Which is why I believe the university may very well be in financial straights in short order, and possibly fold.

Most of their high profile players now have the option to transfer to another program elsewhere, and be eligible to play immediately, and I am thinking many of them will take advantage of this. Especially since Penn is now ineligible for any bowl games for the next 4 years. (Is this really punishing the institution or the students?)

All of this adds up to a huge negative impact to the revenue stream of the university, and should they indeed increase tuition to make up for it, families will pass over them to pursue higher education for their children.

[The Troll]

  But what I don't get is, where in Hell has the NCAA has the right to fine a college such a ridiculous price.  It is all bull shit and the NCAA is going to make a killing.  I'll bet it's board member get a big raise.  What other thing could it be.  It's about the money they can steal.     The school and it's football team has nothing in it.  Screw the NCAA, the way it is run is crooked anyway.  Not letting the ball players have any money for using up their bodies for the enrichment of the colleges and the NCAA. 

[Palehorse]

  But what I don't get is, where in Hell has the NCAA has the right to fine a college such a ridiculous price.  It is all bull shit and the NCAA is going to make a killing.  I'll bet it's board member get a big raise.  What other thing could it be.  It's about the money they can steal.     The school and it's football team has nothing in it.  Screw the NCAA, the way it is run is crooked anyway.  Not letting the ball players have any money for using up their bodies for the enrichment of the colleges and the NCAA. 

The fines are going to go to an endowment for victims of abuse, not the NCAA.

Think of the NCAA as a union for college athletics. . .