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Sandusky Trial

Started by Palehorse, June 21, 2012, 11:58:35 PM

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Palehorse

As if there is any additional evidence needed to prove that this monster needs to be locked up for life:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/21/justice/pennsylvania-sandusky-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Matt Sandusky, one of six adopted children of Jerry Sandusky, said through his attorney Thursday that he was sexually abused by the former Penn State assistant football coach, adding that he had been prepared to testify against him in a high-profile child rape case.
The revelation came on the same day a Pennsylvania jury began deliberating the fate of Jerry Sandusky, who is confronted with accusations of child sexual abuse involving 10 alleged victims.
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:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Henry Hawk

You said it all, he IS a monster that needs to be locked up for life!!  :mad:
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Anne

It will be interesting to see what happens, juries can be really funny. I think sometimes they over think things. I think he is guilty as sin, but I am not on the jury.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

The Troll

Quote from: Anne on June 22, 2012, 07:09:32 PM
It will be interesting to see what happens, juries can be really funny. I think sometimes they over think things. I think he is guilty as sin, but I am not on the jury.

  You're one on the last ones a person on trial would want on their jury.  If the prosecutor say the person is guilty, that person has to be guilty.   :smash:  GUILTY!!!!!!!   :biggrin:

Anne

Soooo, you think he is innocent?
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Locutus

The jury has reached a verdict!  He needs to go down.  That guy is a monster. 
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Locutus

BELLEFONTE, Pa. -- The jury in Jerry Sandusky's child sex abuse trial has reached a verdict, and the panel was expected to announce it Friday evening.

The 68-year-old former Penn State assistant football coach is fighting 48 counts that accuse him of abusing 10 boys over 15 years. He could spend the rest of his life in prison if convicted of all counts.

The jury was expected to announce the verdict sometime after 9:45 p.m.

The courtroom will be closed by the time the jury and attorneys assemble for the verdict, and no one will be allowed to leave until court is adjourned, the judge said in a court order. The verdict will be read count by count. Media are barred from transmitting any results of the verdict until adjournment, with the judge promising sanctions for any reporter or media organization violating his order.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/ncf/story/_/id/8087028/jury-reaches-verdict-jerry-sandusky-abuse-trial
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Anne

"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Locutus

They're reading the verdicts tonight.  Don't know how long it will be before the media are allowed to release them because of the judges order.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Guilty on 45 of 48 counts.

Say hello to Bubba!
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Palehorse

Yeah, all that pipe he laid with those boys is coming back to him. Bubba gonna' ride 'em hard and put 'em away wet!  :yes:  Karma's a bitch!
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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Anne

His lawyer made strange statements, almost like he was saying even he thought Sandusky was guilty. Well, good riddence to bad rubbish.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Y

I hate to tell ya' folks but I'm going to disagree with you and you're not going to like it.

I think this trial and verdict is yet another travesty and nail in the coffin of our justice system.  I think it once exposes the major flaws in the way we execute justice in this country.

1)  Sandusky may or may not be guilty, but the prosecution certainly didn't prove guilt.  Their entire case was predicated on pleas to emotion and not hard evidence.  Admittedly, I didn't follow the trial closely by any means but nothing I heard on the news of the evidence presented mentioned any physical evidence.  Primarily the evidence was emotional 'victim' testimony with no physical evidence that they were actually victims of sexual abuse.  The only other testimony was from the coach who stated he thought he witnessed an incidence of sexual abuse but only reported it and didn't stop it.

2)  It seems apparent to me that Sandusky was bought and paid for.  In other words, he was going to be found guilty regardless of anything else.  I think it had to do with two reasons.  One, the charge was sexual abuse of children which is an emotional charge and usually results in the defendant being immediately judged guilty by the public which leads to a tainted and non-partial jury pool which usually leads to a guilty verdict regardless of the evidence.  Two, Pennsylvania, Penn State, and the law enforcement community were given a very pronounced black eye by this and someone had to suffer the consequences regardless of the evidence.  Therefore, there wasn't going to be any impartial court or jury to be found with the end result being an emotional lynching. 

As I said, Sandusky may be actually guilty as charged, but would any of you wish to take your chances on any charge with a justice system stacked against you as it was against Sandusky?  I think not.

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Palehorse

Quote from: Y on June 24, 2012, 09:35:38 PM
I hate to tell ya' folks but I'm going to disagree with you and you're not going to like it.

I think this trial and verdict is yet another travesty and nail in the coffin of our justice system.  I think it once exposes the major flaws in the way we execute justice in this country.

1)  Sandusky may or may not be guilty, but the prosecution certainly didn't prove guilt.  Their entire case was predicated on pleas to emotion and not hard evidence.  Admittedly, I didn't follow the trial closely by any means but nothing I heard on the news of the evidence presented mentioned any physical evidence.  Primarily the evidence was emotional 'victim' testimony with no physical evidence that they were actually victims of sexual abuse.  The only other testimony was from the coach who stated he thought he witnessed an incidence of sexual abuse but only reported it and didn't stop it.

2)  It seems apparent to me that Sandusky was bought and paid for.  In other words, he was going to be found guilty regardless of anything else.  I think it had to do with two reasons.  One, the charge was sexual abuse of children which is an emotional charge and usually results in the defendant being immediately judged guilty by the public which leads to a tainted and non-partial jury pool which usually leads to a guilty verdict regardless of the evidence.  Two, Pennsylvania, Penn State, and the law enforcement community were given a very pronounced black eye by this and someone had to suffer the consequences regardless of the evidence.  Therefore, there wasn't going to be any impartial court or jury to be found with the end result being an emotional lynching. 

As I said, Sandusky may be actually guilty as charged, but would any of you wish to take your chances on any charge with a justice system stacked against you as it was against Sandusky?  I think not.

I have to admit that those thoughts were rattling around in my mind as well, however; when his adopted kid came out with it as well, I let them escape unencumbered.

Paterno lost his job, and his life shortly thereafter over all of this business. I'm thinking ol' Jerry will only lose his freedom for a short while before he joins Paterno. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Y

Quote from: Palehorse on June 24, 2012, 09:53:02 PM
I have to admit that those thoughts were rattling around in my mind as well, however; when his adopted kid came out with it as well, I let them escape unencumbered...

But that the same as the other 'victim' testimony, an emotional plea lacking in hard physical evidence.

The other thing I didn't mention, but IIRC Sandusky's attorney may have touched on it, is money.  There's going to be some big bucks handed out to anyone claiming to be a victim here, another instance of the 'lawsuit lottery', and no small motivation for being, or becoming, one of the 'victims'...and that's not to disparage any real victims should they exist.
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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa