Random Comments

[me]

What fact? And when do you consider to be "after"? The first slaves were brought to America in 1526.

Slaves entered the American continent in 1526 for the first time when first effort to establish a colony was carried out. However the colony was disappeared soon but slaves remained there and had taken roots in American soil. Then in 1619, a formal process for the trade of slavery was initiated when a Dutch Vessel sold twenty one Negro slaves to the colony of James Town, Virginia. In 1649 there were 200 slaves and later their number was increased up to 2000 only in Virginia.

http://www.dirbull.com/articles/advent-of-slavery-in-unites-states-48.htm

By the way, your highlighted line says English "colonists," not English cities. Nobody disputes there were colonists who were English. A colony is not a city. London, Manchester, Birmingham, and so forth, are cities, where one might have found unemployed people. All the colonists had jobs.

Remember you say always check your sources?

http://whois.domaintools.com/dirbull.com

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AidZUqMvH0.jzO.CpAK0ODSbvZx4?p=Sohrab&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701

http://whois.domaintools.com/dirnext.com

[Henry Hawk]

you know when you are on the right side of things, it feels good to let it all out.....knowing with confidence that the truth is being revealed.

Back to work....

[The Troll]

you know when you are on the right side of things, it feels good to let it all out.....knowing with confidence that the truth is being revealed.

Back to work....

  Let me stick a finger down my throat.  UuuuuuuuKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!    

[LOsborne]

Remember you say always check your sources?

I'm not sure what point you were trying to make (like hell I'm not!) but here is the domain owners personal web site.

http://www.sohrabkhan.com/?page_id=232

He is a software engineer living in London. His credentials are impressive. And you're a racist.

[me]

I'm not sure what point you were trying to make (like hell I'm not!) but here is the domain owners personal web site.

http://www.sohrabkhan.com/?page_id=232

He is a software engineer living in London. His credentials are impressive. And you're a racist.

Wow, I'm impressed...NOT....you or I could do a web site and put anything on it we wanted so that means nothing.  I am not a racist and what in the world ever made you come up with that remark anyway? 

[Palehorse]

Wow, I'm impressed...NOT....you or I could do a web site and put anything on it we wanted so that means nothing.  I am not a racist and what in the world ever made you come up with that remark anyway?

Seriously? You don't see it? 

[me]

Seriously? You don't see it? 

See what?  If you're meaning the racist thing no I don't.  Does that mean I have to agree with those of a different race now all the time or I'm a racist?  Does that mean if a someone of a different nationality has a different opinion than you you are a racist for disagreeing with him?  What is this madness all of a sudden?  I refuse to fall into that trap.

[LOsborne]

Seriously? You don't see it? 

Okay, PH, I'm done with her. If she can't see that implying there is something wrong with the domain because it is owned by a guy with a name of Middle Eastern origin is a racist comment -- especially when she didn't bother to find out who the guy actually is -- then she must wear slip-on shoes. Tying laces is clearly beyond her.

The only trap she is liable to fall into is learning to reason with available facts, instead of hammering every phrase until it fits into one of her knee-jerk acceptable responses. But I'm not wasting any more time trying to set that trap. She's too wily for me.

I should have listened to you from the beginning, Palehorse.

[me]

It has nothing to do with his nationality.  Want some misstatements in his "history" proved to you?

The Topic:

Revolutionary War

Easier - The Revolutionary War also called the American Revolution began in 1775. British soldiers and American patriots fought at Lexington, Massachusetts and nearby Concord. In 1783 the Treaty of Paris ended the war. Great Britain was forced to recognize the independence of the 13 colonies of the United States.

Harder - The Revolutionary War in America (1775-1783) led to the birth of a new nation. The war began on April 19, 1775 with the Battles of Lexington and Concord.

For about a decade, tension had been mounting between Great Britain and the American Colonies. The British government had passed a series of laws in an attempt to increase control over the colonies. But Americans had become used to having control over their local government. They objected to the new laws and protested being taxed without their consent. In 1775, Britain's Parliament declared Massachusetts, the center of most of the protests, to be in rebellion. British troops were placed in Boston to take swift action against the rebels. Shortly afterwards, war broke out.

The Colonies were largely unprepared for war. They lacked a central government and had neither an organized army or navy. Delegates from the colonies formed the first Continental Congress, which took on the duties of a national government. Congress directed the war effort and voted to organize an army and a navy. George Washington, a wealthy Virginia landowner and former military officer, was appointed commander in chief of the Continental Army. On July 4, 1776, the Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence, in which the colonies declared their freedom from British rule.

Tension had been building between Great Britain and the American Colonies for more than 10 years before the Revolutionary War began. Starting in the mid-1760's, the British government passed a series of laws to increase its control over the colonies. Americans had grown used to a large measure of self-government. They strongly resisted the new laws, especially tax laws. Fierce debate developed over the British Parliament's right to tax the colonies without their consent.

Great Britain with its larger and better trained army and navy launched a huge land and sea effort to crush the revolution. However, they had to transport and supply its army across the Atlantic Ocean. As the war continued, the British won many battles but gained little from their victories. The American patriots always formed new forces and continued the fight.

http://www.42explore2.com/revolt.htm
Your source written by your guy:

Business Web Directory
Search

    * home
    * Submit Site
    * Articles
    * Whats New
    * Contact

Dirbull - General Web Directory ~ Article Details
Advent of Slavery in Unites States
Date Added: May 01, 2010 06:59:03 PM
Author:
Category: Science: Social Sciences

Today's modern and developed country, United States of America had also experienced the most crucial racism in its history. That racism was about Slaves and Slavery, connected to the violation of human rights. It is a worldly accepted fact that slavery/racism has never been a more significant issue in USA than any other country. It was considered more important than the existence of USA. Slavery is an unpaid type of labour without any rights. Many people do not know the grounds that how slavery emerged so powerfully on the soil of America.



American continent had a vast land to cultivate which the agriculturists could not manage alone, they needed help of labour. Initially white indentured labourers were employed by those agriculturists who wanted to come to American continent during colonization but they did not have money. The discovery of tobacco as a cash crop increased the value and need of labour. Southern states were agriculturists and they used to cultivate crops like tobacco, rice, indigo, sugarcane, and cotton. These were all labour-intensive crops. Gradually, slavery became indispensible for southern colonies.



Slaves came entered the American continent in 1526 for the first time when first effort to establish a colony was carried out. However the colony was disappeared soon but slaves remained there and had taken roots in American soil. Then in 1619, a formal process for the trade of slavery was initiated when a Dutch Vessel sold twenty one Negro slaves to the colony of James Town, Virginia. In 1649 there were 200 slaves and later their number was increased up to 2000 only in Virginia.



Since 1774 a slight decline in slavery was observed when Rhode Island banned importation of slaves. But internal slave trade was not stopped. Consequently, a minor awareness was developed and different slaves started effort to abolish slavery, Pennsylvania, Quackers, and New York were mainly participating for its abolishment. This effort had not been proved so powerful that could stop slavery in American continent. As the Cotton Gin was invented in 1793 a rapid increase in slavery was noticed again. Southern sates tried their efforts all out to get slaves from any source and at any cost. Slave population increased from 800,000 in 1790 to 4000000 in 1860. This caused a rift between Northern and Southern States and this issue became a political issue.


Southern were supporters of slavery and so defended it, because they were heavily dependent upon slaves services for the crop cultivation. On the other hand Northern States talked about human rights as being industrialists, slavery was never developed there. Hence, slavery had drawn a line of distinction between industrialized free north and agriculturists slave south. Slavery was the main reason for the civil war which was proved to be very cruel in world history.

And, like I said, anyone can make a web site and I don't see anything on that web site about him being a historian of any sort.  I disagree with what he wrote pure and simple has nothing to do with his heritage, color, or lifestyle period.

[Bo D]

It has nothing to do with his nationality.  Want some misstatements in his "history" proved to you?

http://www.42explore2.com/revolt.htm
Your source written by your guy:

And, like I said, anyone can make a web site and I don't see anything on that web site about him being a historian of any sort.  I disagree with what he wrote pure and simple has nothing to do with his heritage, color, or lifestyle period.

Yet you totally ignore this source ... with links to the Folger Institute and Virginia Tech. 

"Indentures were mortgages on the future, a promise made to work for the person who paid one's freight and guaranteed passage to the New World. The written contract, if it existed, was a legally enforceable agreement. Its terms usually meant a period of service—typically four to seven years—in exchange for the cost of transportation, sustenance, and shelter. By one estimate, three-fourths of the white population were dependent laborers when they arrived in the New World. But for a variety of reasons, many sailed without a contract in hand and took their chances on working out an agreement once they arrived in Virginia or Maryland. If they found no suitable employer, the ship's captain could sell them to anyone he pleased. "
http://www.folger.edu/html/folger_institute/jamestown/c_shifflet.htm

[me]

Yet you totally ignore this source ... with links to the Folger Institute and Virginia Tech. 

And it backs up what I said.  Indentured slavery did not start here it was transported over and continued here by some who had been slaves there.....Those who came here to get away from slavery themselves were enslaving other people. Pay attention Olias

[Bo D]

And it backs up what I said.  Indentured slavery did not start here it was transported over and continued here by some who had been slaves there.....Those who came here to get away from slavery themselves were enslaving other people. Pay attention Olias

That is NOT what you said just ONE page back.

They did not bring people here to serve as indentured servants it was people who were already here and who owed a debt.  Also some who owned indentured servants had been slaves themselves at one time.

"Indentures were mortgages on the future, a promise made to work for the person who paid one's freight and guaranteed passage to the New World. The written contract, if it existed, was a legally enforceable agreement. Its terms usually meant a period of service—typically four to seven years—in exchange for the cost of transportation, sustenance, and shelter. By one estimate, three-fourths of the white population were dependent laborers when they arrived in the New World. But for a variety of reasons, many sailed without a contract in hand and took their chances on working out an agreement once they arrived in Virginia or Maryland. If they found no suitable employer, the ship's captain could sell them to anyone he pleased. "
http://www.folger.edu/html/folger_institute/jamestown/c_shifflet.htm

Off your meds today?

[Palehorse]

http://www.youtube.com/v/TXlnjsS0KCo

[followsthewolf]

Symptomatic of lots of people today.

Ignorance is a quicksand bog.

In the face of religious zeal, facts don't mean anything; belief is all, and religion doesn't require facts --

just "faith."

[Palehorse]

http://www.facebook.com/v/1227575495369

If you can watch this and not laugh you need to see a doctor!!!