Ol'Miss Doesn't Seem To Understand "NO"

[me]

  We're on to you "ME" and Henry.  You people don't give a damn about women who need an abortion.  You people want to stop abortions.  But you're are too damn cheap and heartless to take care of the unwanted children when they are born.  I really can't think of a name for people of your ILK.   

  Today I am going to start a new policy.  I am not going to argue with "ME" and The Hawk anymore.  It is an exercise in futility.  When you spend the time to debate with someone who has not one ounce of common sense, intelligence in world affairs, the economy, read between the lines of what the rich is doing to the workers and jobs and how the Rich and the Super Rich Corporations are controlling America with an Iron Fist, buying Washington DC, there is no reasoning with a fool and Sheeple.    You can surly believe they can    

  The next time they write something off the wall, the Republican talking points or something stupid.  I am going to answer with a short number of sarcastic and inflammantory words.  Just to let you know I am still listening to their stupidity and  foolishness.      

That's all you know how to do anyway so what's new?

[me]

No other state requires that a doctor performing abortions must be an OB GYN, and yet all of the doctors at the Mississippi facility are OB GYN's.

Medical specialty certification in the United States is a voluntary process. While medical licensure sets the minimum competency requirements to diagnose and treat patients,

Then there should be no problem getting staff privileges for admitting patients. That is a lame point to say the least. 

[Palehorse]

You cannot see the forest for the trees can you. . .

[me]

You cannot see the forest for the trees can you. . .

http://patients.about.com/od/doctorsandproviders/a/boardcertificat.htm
Doesn't look all that complicated to me and it doesn't take that much to get hospital admitting privileges.  No matter how you try to twist it sure seems like all these things are for the protection of the woman rather than a means to shut down the clinic.  Have you ever asked yourself what kind of doctors work in an abortion clinic anyway?  If they could make it in private practice they would be too busy to work at a clinic even part time.  Those are not your top of the line doctors by any means.

Not only that but this controversy has been going on for years even before this came up.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002132445_abortion28.html

[The Troll]

  More God Complex bullshit.   

[me]

http://patients.about.com/od/doctorsandproviders/a/boardcertificat.htm
Doesn't look all that complicated to me and it doesn't take that much to get hospital admitting privileges.  No matter how you try to twist it sure seems like all these things are for the protection of the woman rather than a means to shut down the clinic.  Have you ever asked yourself what kind of doctors work in an abortion clinic anyway?  If they could make it in private practice they would be too busy to work at a clinic even part time.  Those are not your top of the line doctors by any means.

Not only that but this controversy has been going on for years even before this came up.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002132445_abortion28.html

  More God Complex bullshit.   

Nope just a spin buster.  Read it Troll read it. Not a new controversy at all.  There are also some interesting stats in the article but they would probably just slide right past you.

[Palehorse]

http://patients.about.com/od/doctorsandproviders/a/boardcertificat.htm
Doesn't look all that complicated to me and it doesn't take that much to get hospital admitting privileges.  No matter how you try to twist it sure seems like all these things are for the protection of the woman rather than a means to shut down the clinic.  Have you ever asked yourself what kind of doctors work in an abortion clinic anyway?  If they could make it in private practice they would be too busy to work at a clinic even part time.  Those are not your top of the line doctors by any means.

Not only that but this controversy has been going on for years even before this came up.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002132445_abortion28.html

Of course it doesn't look complicated to you! 

[Palehorse]

Maybe we'll just go ahead and close down the only abortion clinic in Mississippi, and then the 2,700 + women who will need abortions this year can either go to a neighboring state to get them, or have "Louie" do it in the basement with a coat hanger.

Maybe that's what is wanted here. . .more women admitted to local hospitals due to pelvic infections and profuse bleeding without any form of traceability surrounding who butchered the women. . .

Troll is right on this one. Clearly enough of these idiots backing the state on this topic need to go back and study history, and remind themselves of the butchery inflicted upon women before abortion became legal in this country. See just how many young women died or were rendered barren by the coat hanger method.

[The Troll]

Maybe we'll just go ahead and close down the only abortion clinic in Mississippi, and then the 2,700 + women who will need abortions this year can either go to a neighboring state to get them, or have "Louie" do it in the basement with a coat hanger.

Maybe that's what is wanted here. . .more women admitted to local hospitals due to pelvic infections and profuse bleeding without any form of traceability surrounding who butchered the women. . .

Troll is right on this one. Clearly enough of these idiots backing the state on this topic need to go back and study history, and remind themselves of the butchery inflicted upon women before abortion became legal in this country. See just how many young women died or were rendered barren by the coat hanger method.

  Yes Pale Horse there are people who can't mind their business and keep it out of someone Else's life.  These people want to shove their morals down our throats.

  But there is one thing we don't need is more dumb ass people in Mississippi.  Can you imagine what these unwanted children will be when they become teenagers.  In Brazil there is no abortion and when these unwanted teenagers had a late abortion.  Brazil had death squads combing the alleys and shooting them in the head.  They were unwanted, unneeded and trouble.  It sounds like this would be in the platform in the Republican Party.

  You just watch this is going to happen again, especially in Mississippi.  One of the lowest paid and the lowest educated  people in America.  It figures doesn't it.   

[me]

Maybe we'll just go ahead and close down the only abortion clinic in Mississippi, and then the 2,700 + women who will need abortions this year can either go to a neighboring state to get them, or have "Louie" do it in the basement with a coat hanger.

Maybe that's what is wanted here. . .more women admitted to local hospitals due to pelvic infections and profuse bleeding without any form of traceability surrounding who butchered the women. . .

Troll is right on this one. Clearly enough of these idiots backing the state on this topic need to go back and study history, and remind themselves of the butchery inflicted upon women before abortion became legal in this country. See just how many young women died or were rendered barren by the coat hanger method.

In case you didn't read the article a lot of women who can't afford the clinic do that anyway. The law is trying to make it safer not close the clinic down.  If they can't pass the test to become board certified I'm not sure they would be any better than going to Louis in the alley they would just be doing it with regular surgical instruments instead of hangers.
What would be so complicated about just getting admitting privileges?  It's not like they want them on staff to treat patients too. 

[me]

  Yes Pale Horse there are people who can't mind their business and keep it out of someone Else's life.  These people want to shove their morals down our throats.

  But there is one thing we don't need is more dumb ass people in Mississippi.  Can you imagine what these unwanted children will be when they become teenagers.  In Brazil there is no abortion and when these unwanted teenagers had a late abortion.  Brazil had death squads combing the alleys and shooting them in the head.  They were unwanted, unneeded and trouble.  It sounds like this would be in the platform in the Republican Party.

  You just watch this is going to happen again, especially in Mississippi.  One of the lowest paid and the lowest educated  people in America.  It figures doesn't it.   

And you call me a racist and a bigot????  Get real.  That is the most rude uncalled for comment I've seen lately. 

[Exterminator]

You cannot see the forest for the trees can you. . .

Don't waste your time; you can't fix stupid.

[me]

Don't waste your time; you can't fix stupid.

Ya, but like I told Troll, HH and I won't give up on you there is a glimmer of hope every now and then. 

[Palehorse]

In case you didn't read the article a lot of women who can't afford the clinic do that anyway. The law is trying to make it safer not close the clinic down.  If they can't pass the test to become board certified I'm not sure they would be any better than going to Louis in the alley they would just be doing it with regular surgical instruments instead of hangers.
What would be so complicated about just getting admitting privileges?  It's not like they want them on staff to treat patients too.

I'm not so sure an almost 8 year old article is really "current" information. . . however I will submit that if they were going to the coat hanger then, it will get worse once they shut down this clinic.

How do you know what a hospital in Mississippi's requirements are for admitting privileges? What is the amount of malpractice insurance required to be carried for said privileges. What other requirements are in place?

The fact is most hospitals have a unique policy surrounding admitting privileges for doctors who are not on staff, and some require that admitting doctors actually be on staff.

So it's NOT as simple as you would like everyone to believe it is. In fact I dare say it is far more complex.

(Although anyone with proper healthcare insurance can pretty much walk into an emergency room and be admitted should their condition require it.)

[me]

I'm not so sure an almost 8 year old article is really "current" information. . . however I will submit that if they were going to the coat hanger then, it will get worse once they shut down this clinic.

How do you know what a hospital in Mississippi's requirements are for admitting privileges? What is the amount of malpractice insurance required to be carried for said privileges. What other requirements are in place?

The fact is most hospitals have a unique policy surrounding admitting privileges for doctors who are not on staff, and some require that admitting doctors actually be on staff.

So it's NOT as simple as you would like everyone to believe it is. In fact I dare say it is far more complex.

(Although anyone with proper healthcare insurance can pretty much walk into an emergency room and be admitted should their condition require it.)

It's a little hard for a woman who is hemorrhaging to "walk" into an emergency room and admit herself.   

I have tried several different search engines, google being one, and entered it several different ways and all that comes up is crap about the clinic possibly having to close or general info about getting staff privileges like I posted.