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Started by Palehorse, April 05, 2012, 01:05:04 AM

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me

Quote from: Exterminator on April 07, 2012, 10:27:18 PM
The thing is...these clowns are anything but over-achievers.  They are, in fact, victims of those people and too stupid to know that the pain they're feeling is the shafting they're taking up the ass.  Apparently, they like it!
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 07, 2012, 10:26:21 PM
Schizophrenic much?
Quote from: The Troll on April 07, 2012, 08:09:46 PM
  Thanks Locutus, I don't know why I have such a problem with getting the right link address.  But like I said the Wikipedia definition of a person with the God Complex fit "ME" and Henry like a glove.  As I watch the lecture I just couldn't get over how it defined Henry and :me:  :haha:  Just like a glove.  But they are happy in their own mind.  :wacko:  It's to bad they didn't see it.   :yes:  :salute:
Quote from: Exterminator on April 07, 2012, 07:30:39 PM
And as I have pointed out previously, I am against paying for you to breed your hell-spawn vis-à-vis your being able to lower your tax liability by claiming them as dependents on your income taxes and sucking up my property tax dollars to pay for their schools!  Where are my rights?
Quote from: Locutus on April 07, 2012, 05:50:22 PM
I think you meant to post the link to this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_complex

:wink:
As the conversation gets twisted around to character assassinations to stay off of the topic rather than discuss it. Typical liberal tactic to avoid discussing the issue at hand. 
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The Troll


  :me:  It must be that "God Complex" kicking in and it's not charter assassination, if you can't see the truth, to bad.  For what I have been saying and Ex has been saying and a whole lot of other people is that--------> :zoners:

  Check The God Complex on Wikipedia under "Hubris"  it covers your opinion. :wink: :smile:


Exterminator

Quote from: me on April 08, 2012, 02:28:05 AM
As the conversation gets twisted around to character assassinations to stay off of the topic rather than discuss it. Typical liberal tactic to avoid discussing the issue at hand.

It's pointless to try and discuss a topic with someone who knows nothing about it.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on April 08, 2012, 11:34:43 AM
It's pointless to try and discuss a topic with someone who knows nothing about it.
True so I guess discussing it with you and Troll is useless and the reason all the kindergarten trash talk has began.
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on April 08, 2012, 11:34:43 AM
It's pointless to try and discuss a topic with someone who knows nothing about it.

then quit
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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Sandy Eggo

Quote from: me on April 08, 2012, 02:28:05 AM
As the conversation gets twisted around to character assassinations to stay off of the topic rather than discuss it. Typical liberal tactic to avoid discussing the issue at hand.

And saying that our responses are a result of being programmed...is what?

Seriously, just try to keep up with what you say because keeping tabs on everyone else is confusing you.
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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 08, 2012, 01:43:32 PM
then quit

  Why?  For one thing you never seen the Troll want to take his ball and bat and go home.  You never seen the Troll cry about your attacks on him.  But have many time have you.   :confused:

  All you two seem to do is try to pass all of the Republican talking points on us and we won't swallow it.  Then you  :sweatdrop: :groan: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :argue: :bs: :preach: :pope: :koolaid: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :deadhorse: :cry: :cry:  :gha:  Why don't you give up :uncle: and join the Right Side of Humanity.  You would be happer.  :jc:  :tiphat:

me

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 08, 2012, 02:04:59 PM
And saying that our responses are a result of being programmed...is what?

Seriously, just try to keep up with what you say because keeping tabs on everyone else is confusing you.
It's kind of hard to respond to an issue when there is nothing being discussed besides what I quoted which has nothing to do with the issue what-so-ever.  Those are the responses ya'll gave not me or HH.  If you think those comments were valid responses and discussing the issue then I'm not the one that's confused here.
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The Troll

Quote from: me on April 08, 2012, 02:25:12 PM
It's kind of hard to respond to an issue when there is nothing being discussed besides what I quoted which has nothing to do with the issue what-so-ever.  Those are the responses ya'll gave not me or HH.  If you think those comments were valid responses and discussing the issue then I'm not the one that's confused here.

  Huh?  It must be the God Complex.  Check under Fanaticism.  :kiss:  :love:

me

Quote from: The Troll on April 08, 2012, 02:49:53 PM
  Huh?  It must be the God Complex.  Check under Fanaticism.  :kiss:  :love:
And this has what to do with the issue?  Point proved once again.
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me

(CNN) -- Mississippi lawmakers passed a bill Wednesday that would require any physician performing abortions in the state to be a board-certified obstetrician-gynecologist and to have admitting privileges at an area hospital.

The bill "should effectively close the only abortion clinic in Mississippi," said Lt. Gov. Tate Reeves in a statement. "This is a strong bill that will effectively end abortion in Mississippi." If the state's only abortion facility, Jackson Women's Health Organization, closes, Mississippi women seeking abortions would have to leave the state.

The clinic's owner, Diane Derzis, said in a telephone interview that all her doctors are obstetrician-gynecologists, but only one has admitting privileges at an area hospital. She vowed to fight to remain open.

"We are going to do everything we can to remain there ... we are not going to let the women of Mississippi down," said Derzis.

Wednesday's vote by the state Senate is the latest in a string of attempts by lawmakers to close her facility, she said. Last year, the state introduced a bill known as the Personhood Amendment, which would have defined life as beginning at the moment of conception. The bill was defeated by voters in November.
Kirk Cameron on abortion

The bill is in a period for comment before it will be sent to Republican Gov. Phil Bryant, who has said he wants Mississippi to become "abortion-free."

"This legislation is an important step in strengthening abortion regulations and protecting the health and safety of women," he said after Wednesday's vote, in a statement.

"I am sick about this," said Felicia Brown-Williams, regional director of public policy for Planned Parenthood in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. The bill "puts in place requirements that intentionally try to make it impossible for physicians to provide abortion services. ... Voters have already said that they want the government to stay out of decisions that should be made by a woman, her family and her physician."

She expressed hope the bill might not be sent to the governor. "We are asking Mississippians to reach out to their senators and ask them to reconsider their vote on this," she said.

Still, she acknowledged, the bill is likely to be tabled Thursday and then sent to Bryant.

There is no medical reason to require physicians performing abortions be board-certified OB/GYNs or that they have admitting privileges, Brown-Williams said. If the clinic stops offering abortion services because it is unable to find providers with those qualifications, the bill "would be a backdoor ban on abortion."

The Center for Reproductive Rights' state advocacy counsel, Jordan Goldberg, said that, if the goal of the legislation is to impose restrictions on abortion providers that are not imposed on other medical providers offering similar care, then "that would raise serious constitutional problems and a legal challenge would certainly be possible."

"It's not about medicine," she said. "It's just about politics."

Seven other states require abortion providers to have hospital privileges, but no other state requires that an abortion provider be an OB/GYN, said Elizabeth Nash, state issues manager for the Guttmacher Institute in Washington. "This bill is an attempt to make it so difficult to become an abortion provider that no one will do it."

Though the 1973 Supreme Court landmark decision in Roe v. Wade made abortion legal in all 50 states, Mississippi's bill could make the state the first where no abortions could be performed, she said.

"It's an attempt to eliminate access without taking on Roe directly."

In 2008, the last year for which data are available, 2,770 abortions were performed in the state, according to Guttmacher.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/04/politics/mississippi-abortion/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Why would that close the abortion clinic?  What's wrong with having to be board certified. 
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http://www.careermedicine.com/2007/10/starting-a-medical-practice-getting-hospital-privileges/

Starting a medical practice: Getting Hospital Privileges

Written by admin on October 29, 2007 - 0 Comments
Starting a Medical Practice, Tips on Physician Job Search, Uncategorized

Many medical insurance companies will require MDs to hold hospital privileges to qualify to be part of their medical network.  If you want to do surgical procedures or round at the hospital, hospital privileges are needed. Obtaining hospital privileges are easy as of now. Hospitals needs MDs to send patients to their health care facilities. So most hospitals will be very helpful in helping you get privileges.

Understand the two parts of hospital privileges approval process: Credentialing and Privileges determination. Credentialing is that part of the application process in which it is  determined if the MD is qualified to get privileges.  The hospital medical staff office double checks on medical school, residency training, background check etc. The second step is giving privileges to do certain things in the hospital. For example the hospital may give broad privileges to do almost everything in your specialty including admitting patients, performing procedures pertaining to your specialty , consult and so on. Or the hospital may decide to give limited privileges, restricting the physicians to perform only certain medical procedures. or function. Certain hospitals may have exclusive association with a particular medical practice. And if you don't belong to that exclusive medical practice, the hospital may allow you no privileges or some privileges. Yes! Welcome to the world of medical politics.

    These are the steps to get hospital privileges:

    STEP 1: Call the 'medical staff office' of the hospital and get a privilege application.

    STEP 2: Fill and Submit it back to the medical staff office.

    STEP 3: Follow up with your references to make sure they mailed the recommendations back to the hospital.

    STEP 4: Make sure medical office has everything they need on your file, prior to the next credentialing committee meeting.

There are different types of hospital privileges. You may want to chose which is best suited for you:

    Courtesy Privileges: Courtesy hospital privileges limit the physician to admitting only a nominal number of patients to the hospital. It still satisfies most medical insurance companies requirement for physicians to hold hospital privileges.  Physicians are usually exempt from attending medical staff meetings. Such privilege is used by physicians who do not expect to admit patients to the hospital or do procedures there.

    Full Privileges: Under this category physicians are allowed to admit unlimited number of patients to the hospital. Physicians are usually given all the privileges needed to perform 'core procedures' of their medical specialty. Physicians are also required to attend a required number of medical staff meeting regularly.  Now, if a physician is board certified, which is only logical and the article states they are, what is the big deal about at least getting hospital admitting privileges? 

The hospital privileges are renewed every few years. Currently it is done automatically, as long as physician's morbidity or mortality rate is not too high as compared to their peers. But starting 2008, JCAHO is now requiring hospitals to develop criteria to renew hospital privileges every year based on measured criteria such as mortality rate, patient satisfaction score, complication rate, and, yes! believe it or not, even handwriting legibility. So holding on to the privileges will become quite a chore in the near future.
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Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 08, 2012, 01:43:32 PM
then quit

There's a difference between attempting to discuss a subject with you and refuting your lies and right-wing propaganda.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: me on April 08, 2012, 05:12:27 PM
(CNN) -- Mississippi lawmakers passed a bill Wednesday that would require any physician performing abortions in the state to be a board-certified obstetrician-gynecologist and to have admitting privileges at an area hospital.

The bill "should effectively close the only abortion clinic in Mississippi," said Lt. Gov. Tate Reeves in a statement. "This is a strong bill that will effectively end abortion in Mississippi." If the state's only abortion facility, Jackson Women's Health Organization, closes, Mississippi women seeking abortions would have to leave the state.

The clinic's owner, Diane Derzis, said in a telephone interview that all her doctors are obstetrician-gynecologists, but only one has admitting privileges at an area hospital. She vowed to fight to remain open.

"We are going to do everything we can to remain there ... we are not going to let the women of Mississippi down," said Derzis.

Wednesday's vote by the state Senate is the latest in a string of attempts by lawmakers to close her facility, she said. Last year, the state introduced a bill known as the Personhood Amendment, which would have defined life as beginning at the moment of conception. The bill was defeated by voters in November.
Kirk Cameron on abortion

The bill is in a period for comment before it will be sent to Republican Gov. Phil Bryant, who has said he wants Mississippi to become "abortion-free."

"This legislation is an important step in strengthening abortion regulations and protecting the health and safety of women," he said after Wednesday's vote, in a statement.

"I am sick about this," said Felicia Brown-Williams, regional director of public policy for Planned Parenthood in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. The bill "puts in place requirements that intentionally try to make it impossible for physicians to provide abortion services. ... Voters have already said that they want the government to stay out of decisions that should be made by a woman, her family and her physician."

She expressed hope the bill might not be sent to the governor. "We are asking Mississippians to reach out to their senators and ask them to reconsider their vote on this," she said.

Still, she acknowledged, the bill is likely to be tabled Thursday and then sent to Bryant.

There is no medical reason to require physicians performing abortions be board-certified OB/GYNs or that they have admitting privileges, Brown-Williams said. If the clinic stops offering abortion services because it is unable to find providers with those qualifications, the bill "would be a backdoor ban on abortion."

The Center for Reproductive Rights' state advocacy counsel, Jordan Goldberg, said that, if the goal of the legislation is to impose restrictions on abortion providers that are not imposed on other medical providers offering similar care, then "that would raise serious constitutional problems and a legal challenge would certainly be possible."

"It's not about medicine," she said. "It's just about politics."

Seven other states require abortion providers to have hospital privileges, but no other state requires that an abortion provider be an OB/GYN, said Elizabeth Nash, state issues manager for the Guttmacher Institute in Washington. "This bill is an attempt to make it so difficult to become an abortion provider that no one will do it."

Though the 1973 Supreme Court landmark decision in Roe v. Wade made abortion legal in all 50 states, Mississippi's bill could make the state the first where no abortions could be performed, she said.

"It's an attempt to eliminate access without taking on Roe directly."

In 2008, the last year for which data are available, 2,770 abortions were performed in the state, according to Guttmacher.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/04/politics/mississippi-abortion/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Why would that close the abortion clinic?  What's wrong with having to be board certified. 

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.careermedicine.com/2007/10/starting-a-medical-practice-getting-hospital-privileges/

Starting a medical practice: Getting Hospital Privileges

Written by admin on October 29, 2007 - 0 Comments
Starting a Medical Practice, Tips on Physician Job Search, Uncategorized

Many medical insurance companies will require MDs to hold hospital privileges to qualify to be part of their medical network.  If you want to do surgical procedures or round at the hospital, hospital privileges are needed. Obtaining hospital privileges are easy as of now. Hospitals needs MDs to send patients to their health care facilities. So most hospitals will be very helpful in helping you get privileges.

Understand the two parts of hospital privileges approval process: Credentialing and Privileges determination. Credentialing is that part of the application process in which it is  determined if the MD is qualified to get privileges.  The hospital medical staff office double checks on medical school, residency training, background check etc. The second step is giving privileges to do certain things in the hospital. For example the hospital may give broad privileges to do almost everything in your specialty including admitting patients, performing procedures pertaining to your specialty , consult and so on. Or the hospital may decide to give limited privileges, restricting the physicians to perform only certain medical procedures. or function. Certain hospitals may have exclusive association with a particular medical practice. And if you don't belong to that exclusive medical practice, the hospital may allow you no privileges or some privileges. Yes! Welcome to the world of medical politics.

    These are the steps to get hospital privileges:

    STEP 1: Call the 'medical staff office' of the hospital and get a privilege application.

    STEP 2: Fill and Submit it back to the medical staff office.

    STEP 3: Follow up with your references to make sure they mailed the recommendations back to the hospital.

    STEP 4: Make sure medical office has everything they need on your file, prior to the next credentialing committee meeting.

There are different types of hospital privileges. You may want to chose which is best suited for you:

    Courtesy Privileges: Courtesy hospital privileges limit the physician to admitting only a nominal number of patients to the hospital. It still satisfies most medical insurance companies requirement for physicians to hold hospital privileges.  Physicians are usually exempt from attending medical staff meetings. Such privilege is used by physicians who do not expect to admit patients to the hospital or do procedures there.

    Full Privileges: Under this category physicians are allowed to admit unlimited number of patients to the hospital. Physicians are usually given all the privileges needed to perform 'core procedures' of their medical specialty. Physicians are also required to attend a required number of medical staff meeting regularly.  Now, if a physician is board certified, which is only logical and the article states they are, what is the big deal about at least getting hospital admitting privileges? 

The hospital privileges are renewed every few years. Currently it is done automatically, as long as physician's morbidity or mortality rate is not too high as compared to their peers. But starting 2008, JCAHO is now requiring hospitals to develop criteria to renew hospital privileges every year based on measured criteria such as mortality rate, patient satisfaction score, complication rate, and, yes! believe it or not, even handwriting legibility. So holding on to the privileges will become quite a chore in the near future.
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  I won't bring up this piece of shit this bunch of Christian Right Wing Bastard Republicans passed.  But they just to a woman's right to get abortion in the State of Mississippi.   :rant:

  :me:  Now are you happy dumbass.  I sure would like to bring some true justice to assholes like you.  :rant:  :angry:

me

Quote from: me on April 08, 2012, 05:12:27 PM
(CNN) -- Mississippi lawmakers passed a bill Wednesday that would require any physician performing abortions in the state to be a board-certified obstetrician-gynecologist and to have admitting privileges at an area hospital.

The bill "should effectively close the only abortion clinic in Mississippi," said Lt. Gov. Tate Reeves in a statement. "This is a strong bill that will effectively end abortion in Mississippi." If the state's only abortion facility, Jackson Women's Health Organization, closes, Mississippi women seeking abortions would have to leave the state.

The clinic's owner, Diane Derzis, said in a telephone interview that all her doctors are obstetrician-gynecologists, but only one has admitting privileges at an area hospital. She vowed to fight to remain open.

"We are going to do everything we can to remain there ... we are not going to let the women of Mississippi down," said Derzis.

Wednesday's vote by the state Senate is the latest in a string of attempts by lawmakers to close her facility, she said. Last year, the state introduced a bill known as the Personhood Amendment, which would have defined life as beginning at the moment of conception. The bill was defeated by voters in November.
Kirk Cameron on abortion

The bill is in a period for comment before it will be sent to Republican Gov. Phil Bryant, who has said he wants Mississippi to become "abortion-free."

"This legislation is an important step in strengthening abortion regulations and protecting the health and safety of women," he said after Wednesday's vote, in a statement.

"I am sick about this," said Felicia Brown-Williams, regional director of public policy for Planned Parenthood in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. The bill "puts in place requirements that intentionally try to make it impossible for physicians to provide abortion services. ... Voters have already said that they want the government to stay out of decisions that should be made by a woman, her family and her physician."

She expressed hope the bill might not be sent to the governor. "We are asking Mississippians to reach out to their senators and ask them to reconsider their vote on this," she said.

Still, she acknowledged, the bill is likely to be tabled Thursday and then sent to Bryant.

There is no medical reason to require physicians performing abortions be board-certified OB/GYNs or that they have admitting privileges, Brown-Williams said. If the clinic stops offering abortion services because it is unable to find providers with those qualifications, the bill "would be a backdoor ban on abortion."

The Center for Reproductive Rights' state advocacy counsel, Jordan Goldberg, said that, if the goal of the legislation is to impose restrictions on abortion providers that are not imposed on other medical providers offering similar care, then "that would raise serious constitutional problems and a legal challenge would certainly be possible."

"It's not about medicine," she said. "It's just about politics."

Seven other states require abortion providers to have hospital privileges, but no other state requires that an abortion provider be an OB/GYN, said Elizabeth Nash, state issues manager for the Guttmacher Institute in Washington. "This bill is an attempt to make it so difficult to become an abortion provider that no one will do it."

Though the 1973 Supreme Court landmark decision in Roe v. Wade made abortion legal in all 50 states, Mississippi's bill could make the state the first where no abortions could be performed, she said.

"It's an attempt to eliminate access without taking on Roe directly."

In 2008, the last year for which data are available, 2,770 abortions were performed in the state, according to Guttmacher.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/04/politics/mississippi-abortion/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Why would that close the abortion clinic?  What's wrong with having to be board certified. 

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.careermedicine.com/2007/10/starting-a-medical-practice-getting-hospital-privileges/

Starting a medical practice: Getting Hospital Privileges

Written by admin on October 29, 2007 - 0 Comments
Starting a Medical Practice, Tips on Physician Job Search, Uncategorized

Many medical insurance companies will require MDs to hold hospital privileges to qualify to be part of their medical network.  If you want to do surgical procedures or round at the hospital, hospital privileges are needed. Obtaining hospital privileges are easy as of now. Hospitals needs MDs to send patients to their health care facilities. So most hospitals will be very helpful in helping you get privileges.

Understand the two parts of hospital privileges approval process: Credentialing and Privileges determination. Credentialing is that part of the application process in which it is  determined if the MD is qualified to get privileges.  The hospital medical staff office double checks on medical school, residency training, background check etc. The second step is giving privileges to do certain things in the hospital. For example the hospital may give broad privileges to do almost everything in your specialty including admitting patients, performing procedures pertaining to your specialty , consult and so on. Or the hospital may decide to give limited privileges, restricting the physicians to perform only certain medical procedures. or function. Certain hospitals may have exclusive association with a particular medical practice. And if you don't belong to that exclusive medical practice, the hospital may allow you no privileges or some privileges. Yes! Welcome to the world of medical politics.

    These are the steps to get hospital privileges:

    STEP 1: Call the 'medical staff office' of the hospital and get a privilege application.

    STEP 2: Fill and Submit it back to the medical staff office.

    STEP 3: Follow up with your references to make sure they mailed the recommendations back to the hospital.

    STEP 4: Make sure medical office has everything they need on your file, prior to the next credentialing committee meeting.

There are different types of hospital privileges. You may want to chose which is best suited for you:

    Courtesy Privileges: Courtesy hospital privileges limit the physician to admitting only a nominal number of patients to the hospital. It still satisfies most medical insurance companies requirement for physicians to hold hospital privileges.  Physicians are usually exempt from attending medical staff meetings. Such privilege is used by physicians who do not expect to admit patients to the hospital or do procedures there.

    Full Privileges: Under this category physicians are allowed to admit unlimited number of patients to the hospital. Physicians are usually given all the privileges needed to perform 'core procedures' of their medical specialty. Physicians are also required to attend a required number of medical staff meeting regularly.  Now, if a physician is board certified, which is only logical and the article states they are, what is the big deal about at least getting hospital admitting privileges? 

The hospital privileges are renewed every few years. Currently it is done automatically, as long as physician's morbidity or mortality rate is not too high as compared to their peers. But starting 2008, JCAHO is now requiring hospitals to develop criteria to renew hospital privileges every year based on measured criteria such as mortality rate, patient satisfaction score, complication rate, and, yes! believe it or not, even handwriting legibility. So holding on to the privileges will become quite a chore in the near future.
Trump 2020