Trayvon Martin

[me]

I agree that the injuries are minor.

I also say that they do NOT constitute injury enough to raise a reasonable belief of "imminent death or great bodily harm" as required per FL. statute to justify use of deadly force.

One cannot help but accept that - with all the prior media attention to the SYG phrasing of the FL. statute, Zimmerman's father having been a Magistrate, and the fact that Zimmerman deliberately strapped on his gun in clear violation of his neighborhood watch mandate - Zimmerman was thoroughly versed in the requirements of that FL. statute and understood what was necessary for him to use it as a defense.

The lack of any DNA evidence to support Zimmerman's claim is a HUGE red flag alerting that Zimmerman's tale should be looked up as, at least, having a HIGH probability of fabrication.

He had a permit to carry, he was not patrolling but was on his way to go elsewhere from what I understand and happened to notice Travon acting suspiciously.  He was not out to stalk anyone and had no clue who Travon was, he was just an unfamiliar person in a neighborhood which had had a lot of robberies. 

[Henry Hawk]

Here is an article I just read, something for my fellow zoners to chew on:

1. There is Zero Evidence Race was Involved In the Shooting
Early last year, as the tragic and fatal shooting of teenager Trayvon Martin was just starting to bubble up, the media falsely described George Zimmerman as "white." The name Zimmerman apparently fooled the media into believing they had a white versus black narrative on their hands. Once they learned Zimmerman was Hispanic, rather than change course, in order to cover up their mistake, the media put the pedal to the metal in pushing a racial angle.
This crusade, however, is anti-science. A thorough federal investigation into Zimmerman found absolutely no evidence that there was any racism in his past or in his motivations the night of the shooting.
During the trial, the prosecution did not accuse Zimmerman of having any kind of racial motive.
The one juror who has spoken out said the jury saw no evidence of a racial motivation.
The media's racial narrative is based on nothing more than partisan lies, speculation, innuendo, and a cynical alchemy conjured from nothing to enflame division and hate.
Moreover, it is reasonable to assume the media have been swarming Zimmerman's life looking for anything that might point to racism. But as of yet there have been no media reports (that weren't later debunked and retracted) reporting Zimmerman has been found to be a closet racist.
On the contrary...

2. Zimmerman's Admirable History of Being Colorblind Toward Blacks
Zimmerman's past indicates he is color blind. He has dated black women, tutored black children, once stood up for a black homeless man against the police (we're told he so desperately wants to impress), has black relatives, and voted for the first black president.

3. Zimmerman is Hispanic, Not White

Like President Obama, Zimmerman has one white parent. Quite properly, the media have never referred to Obama as "half-black," a "self-described black," or a "white black." Obama is black. Period.
Zimmerman, however, has been stripped of his Hispanic racial identity across almost every media outlet in America. Though he is as Hispanic as Obama is black, because it is inconvenient to the white versus black racial narrative the media are hyping, the media refuse to identify Zimmerman as a Hispanic.
A full fifteen months after the media learned they had made a mistake and that their prey was Hispanic, some in media are still referring to Zimmerman as "white."
Those not referring to him as white are either ignoring his racial heritage altogether, or describing him as a "white Hispanic" or some variation of a "self-described Hispanic."
As far as I know, this is an unprecedented editorial decision.
Speaking of unprecedented...

4. Obama's Justice Department Has Launched a National Fishing Expedition Against Zimmerman
Probably because the reporting of such a frightening and Orwellian act of federal overreach might make look Zimmerman look sympathetic and hurt Obama, the media have apparently decided to ignore Attorney General Eric Holder's public witch hunt. The Justice Department is setting up a public tip line for Americans to "help build a case against Zimmerman."
In order to build a civil rights case, the government needs evidence of racism.
The federal government crowd-sourcing for evidence against a single American is both chilling and something heretofore unheard of. 

5. Like Some Conservatives, President Obama Feared Violence After the Verdict
One of the false racially-charged talking points some in media are using against conservatives is that we are racist for fearing there might be violence in the wake of the verdict.
Something inconvenient to that narrative is the fact that a black, leftist American president beloved by the media also feared there would be violence in the wake of the verdict. After the verdict was announced, the president released a statement that said in part:
I know this case has elicited strong passions.  And in the wake of the verdict, I know those passions may be running even higher.  But we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken.  I now ask every American to respect the call for calm reflection from two parents who lost their young son.
Unfortunately for a race-baiting media, this, one of the president's better moments, has to be ignored in order to serve an artificial narrative.
Which brings me to number six...

6. There Has Been Widespread Violence After the Verdict
The fear President Obama and those "racist" conservatives shared about the possibility of violence in the wake of the Zimmerman verdict has been vindicated. 
In just a few days, Breitbart News has documented over two dozen separate acts of violence and lawlessness throughout the country.
The media are dutifully covering up this widespread violence. Yes, they report on each separate act, but always with a "mostly peaceful" qualifier. The media also refuse to connect the dots and widen their reportorial context to show the entire picture.
One aspect of this lawless spree the racially-obsessed media adamantly refuse to report on are the reported "hate crimes" being committed by black against whites and Hispanics.
Which brings me to...

7. Zimmerman Protesters Commit Numerous Racially-Motivated Assaults:
While the irresponsible media is inventing from whole cloth a racial narrative in the Trayvon shooting, at the same time, they are willfully ignoring actual racially-motivated assaults occurring in the wake of the verdict.
Thus far, there have been three reported hate crimes -- actual assaults -- committed by Trayvon supporters. But like the awful murders taking hundreds of black lives in Chicago, the media refuse to call national attention to these verdict-inspired hate crimes because there is no political upside in doing so. How can a liberal media call attention to the violence in Chicago when liberals and liberalism are the problem? 
The same thinking holds true for these reported assaults by blacks against Hispanics and whites. To focus on reality might undermine the fabricated narrative that an innocent black teenager was stalked and murdered by a racist white man.

8. "Stand Your Ground" Has Nothing to do With the Zimmerman Case
Other than ginning up black turnout for Obama's re-election effort in the crucial swing state of Florida and enflaming racial tensions (which solidifies the Democrat base), another partisan goal the media hopes to achieve from the Zimmerman case is to toxify the "Stand Your Ground" laws that currently exist in 30 states.
But like the fact that Zimmerman is not white and that there is zero evidence showing race was in any way involved in his actions the night of the shooting, the media have also bumped into another inconvenient reality: "Stand Your Ground" had nothing to do with Zimmerman's defense or acquittal.
The Zimmerman case was a simple case of self-defense:
The jury received standard instructions. Zimmerman did not invoke the Stand Your Ground provision. Zimmerman later waived his right to a pretrial immunity hearing under the Stand Your Ground procedures.
And as National Review's Sterling Beard points out, "The only time Stand Your Ground came up during the trial proper was when a prosecution witness stated that he'd taught a class Zimmerman had attended that covered Stand Your Ground."
Even the prosecution rejects the cynical attempt to tie Martin's death to Stand Your Ground. Prosecutor John Guy couldn't have made it clearer during the trial: "This case is not about standing your ground." During their post-trial press conference, as conservative talk show host Victoria Taft first noted, a Miami Herald reporter asked the prosecution team specifically whether Stand Your Ground "affected the facts in this case and whether this case could have been won, perhaps, pre the changes in the law."
Prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda replied: "You know, self-defense has existed for a long time. And we've dealt with it in Jackson for a long time.
These facts, though, have failed to stop Eric Holder or the media from pretending the complete opposite is true.

9. Rachel Jeantel Might Be Responsible for the Deadly Confrontation
An unfortunate mix of marijuana, homophobia, and a friend whispering warnings in your ear at night, could go a long towards explaining why a physical altercation occurred:
[CNN's PIERS] MORGAN: And he was freaked out by it [Zimmerman following him]?
JEANTEL: Yes. Definitely after I say may be a rapist, for every boy, for every man, every -- who's not that kind of way, seeing a grown man following them, would they be creep out?
She continued:
"And people need to understand, he didn't want that creepy ass cracker going to his father or girlfriend's house to go get -- mind you, his little brother was there. You know -- now, mind you, I told you -- I told Trayvon it might have been a rapist."
Evidence that shows why Trayvon might have been the aggressor, though, is inconvenient to a media desperate to enflame racial tensions. Moreover, bringing the issue of homophobia into the personal narratives of Trayvon and Jeantel just can't be allowed to happen.
This bombshell has been swept under the rug just as effectively as the other nine.

10. The Florida Justice System's Leniency Towards Trayvon Led to His Death
In order to make his crime statistics look good, Police Chief Charles Hurley of the Miami-Dade School Police Department is suspected of juicing the numbers by treating outright crimes as simple disciplinary problems. As Robert Stacy McCain reports in the American Spectator, Trayvon Martin ended up being a victim of this practice.
Instead of being arrested and charged after being found with a burglary tool and 13 pieces of jewelry stolen from a house a half-mile from the school, Trayvon was suspended from school. Trayvon was also caught with marijuana:
Either of those incidents could have put Trayvon Martin into the custody of the juvenile justice system. However, because of Chief Hurley's attempt to reduce the school crime statistics — according to sworn testimony, officers were "basically told to lie and falsify" reports — Martin was never arrested. And if he had been arrested, he might never have been in Sanford the night of his fatal encounter with Zimmerman.
What we have here is a case of police corruption in which the media have shown no interest, even though you can connect the dots to Trayvon's tragic death.
But to report this story would mean upsetting the narrative that Trayvon was an innocent (like many of us at 17, he got in trouble) and that the only cause of his death was a racist white man protected by racist white laws (passed almost unanimously by Republicans and Democrats).
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While the simple and noble act of reporting the full truth might help to ease tensions, as racial violence breaks out across the country, the media have shown no remorse for enflaming citizens with falsehoods.
Sadly, the media have not even signaled that they might slow down.
If anything, the media are just warming up for what they seem to hope will be "a long, hot weekend."

[Exterminator]

Really?  Trash from breitbart.com?  Too bad that lying scumbag's website didn't die when he did.   

[Henry Hawk]

Really?  Trash from breitbart.com?  Too bad that lying scumbag's website didn't die when he did.   

Like it or not, they support their stories with sources of facts and info to check it out yourself.

[Exterminator]

Like it or not, they support their stories with sources of facts and info to check it out yourself.

No they don't...they've been caught in outright lies so many times it's not funny.  No wonder your perpective on everything is so warped if you read garbage like this.

[Henry Hawk]

No they don't...they've been caught in outright lies so many times it's not funny.  No wonder your perpective on everything is so warped if you read garbage like this.

hey! I read all sorts of garbage...............wait!


gotta have a sense of humor....


Just think how boring this place would be if I didn't come here....

[Bo D]

hey! I read all sorts of garbage...............wait!


gotta have a sense of humor....


Just think how boring this place would be if I didn't come here....

True! Every village needs its idiot. 

[Locutus]

True! Every village needs its idiot. 

This village has more than one. 

[me]

This village has more than one. 

Aw good, you have a buddy. 

[Palehorse]

Really?  Trash from breitbart.com?  Too bad that lying scumbag's website didn't die when he did.   

I knew it. . . 

It's probably the same place they're getting their ACA information from. . .

[Henry Hawk]

And here we go:    Thanks Mr. President.



The pro-Trayvon Martin protests sweeping the nation have become violent riots in some cities like Houston, Los Angeles, and Oakland.

On Monday night, rioters in Houston put the life of a 7-year-0ld in danger. The young girl was having an extreme allergic reaction, and was being driven to the hospital by her mother and grandmother. However, a group of violent protestors blocked the their vehicle, keeping it stalled for a substantial chunk of time. All the while, the 7-year-old was suffering in the back seat.

The grandmother, who only identified herself as Georgia, said, "I looked up and I see all the protesters, they're everywhere... So, we got into the traffic and they're stopping us and not letting us go."

Georgia's daughter (the 7-year-old's mother) was driving the car at the time of the incident. She tried to drive around the protestors by driving through grass, but the rioters continued  to target the car and block them from moving at all.


"One of them was hitting the windshield and I was just screaming, 'We've got to get to the hospital,' and they were screaming and chanting. All I could think of was, I got to get my granddaughter to the hospital," Georgia said.

When Georgia rolled down her window to ask the rioters to move out of the way, they physically assaulted her.

Georgia's daughter said, "She said, 'We're trying to get my granddaughter to the hospital,' and a guy just started hitting her."

A video shot by a local news affiliate shows the crowd blocking the car and a man assaulting Georgia.

"It wasn't peaceful. It was terrifying," Georgia said.

Good grief. These protests aren't even about Trayvon Martin anymore. They have turned into violent riots for people who just want an excuse to be angry.

And the worst part? The so-called "mainstream" media refuses to report on the violence, since it doesn't align with their liberal agenda.

[Locutus]

No link to that?

[Henry Hawk]

yeah, there is, I just got in a hurry.  Will get it later.

Going to take my kids to see a movie.....

there is a video on google showing it.

[Palehorse]

yeah, there is, I just got in a hurry.  Will get it later.

Going to take my kids to see a movie.....

there is a video on google showing it.

Translation: I'm too lazy to link to it because it came from some extremist, right-wing propaganda site.

[me]

Translation: I'm too lazy to link to it because it came from some extremist, right-wing propaganda site.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/local-familys-emergency-trip-to-hospital-interrupted-by-protestors/-/1735978/21009282/-/xa44gh/-/index.html