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Trayvon Martin

Started by Henry Hawk, March 29, 2012, 11:07:06 AM

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libby

Quote from: Locutus on July 16, 2013, 10:49:56 AM
I wasn't going to post this because some might get squeamish, but I'll post a link with a strong disclaimer.  Here is one of the pictures of Trayvon Martin's body as it was found and photographed by police and shown to the jury.  It doesn't look to me like a picture of someone who had just been in a violent struggle with someone else.

EXTREMELY GRAPHIC PICTURE OF A DEAD BODY.  DO NOT CLICK IF YOU ARE SQUEAMISH OR ARE DISTURBED BY SUCH IMAGES

http://s16.postimg.org/t7t49e2dx/Screen_Shot_2013_07_14_at_12_23_30_AM.png
[/quote]I strongly urge everybody to pull it up and look closely, very closely, especially at his clothes, at the expression on his face, the position of his body.   :eek:

And now I'd like to add something that I remembered reading when Zimmerman killed the boy -- it regards Zimmerman's father, the Magistrate. Didn't know that?  Read on. 

"Zimmerman: Dad worked as magistrate
Answering questions on Zimmerman, family
Posted: 03/28/2012
By: Jeff Butera

TAMPA - Some viewers on the ABC Action News Facebook page have asked whether George Zimmerman's father served as a judge.

Some have speculated Zimmerman's father may have used that position to get a 2005 charge against his son thrown out (although, while the charge of assaulting a law enforcement officer was dropped, there is no proof Zimmerman's father played any role in making that happen).

On Wednesday, we decided to answer your questions about what was truth and what was fiction.

We obtained a copy of George Zimmerman's application to join the Seminole County Sheriff's Office Citizens Law Enforcement Academy.

In it, Zimmerman writes that his "father is a retired Magistrate Judge for the supreme court (sic) of Virginia."

George Zimmerman's father is Robert Zimmerman. Robert Zimmerman gave a statement to the 'Orlando Sentinel' defending his son's role in the shooting death of teenager Trayvon Martin.
We then contacted the Virginia Supreme Court to confirm Robert Zimmerman's employment.

Kristi Wright with the Department of Legislative and Public Relations wrote us this email in response:

"Robert J. Zimmerman served as a full-time magistrate from 2000-2006. Please be advised that in Virginia magistrates are judicial officers, but they are not considered "judges" and do not possess trial jurisdiction. More detailed information on the role of the magistrate in Virginia is available on Virginia's Judicial System Website ."

Copyright 2012 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed."



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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on July 16, 2013, 11:03:17 AM
Look at that picture again, and look specifically at the knees.

So the forensic expert was wrong, because his knees were not dirty in that picture?  The EXPERT says Trayvon was on top.  An EYE-WITNESS says he was on top.  I guess they are wrong, huh?
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Locutus

Quote from: libby on July 16, 2013, 11:13:15 AM


We obtained a copy of George Zimmerman's application to join the Seminole County Sheriff's Office Citizens Law Enforcement Academy.

In it, Zimmerman writes that his "father is a retired Magistrate Judge for the supreme court (sic) of Virginia."





Like I said before, Zimmerman has proven himself a liar, and if this is true, it's just more evidence. 
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Bo D

Quote from: Locutus on July 16, 2013, 11:03:17 AM
Look at that picture again, and look specifically at the knees.

What about the right hand? No marks there either.
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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2013, 10:55:24 AM
He looks DEAD!  How is a person who has been in a violent struggle supposed to look like?

  You're a real sick puppy Skippy.  We only got Zimmerman's side of the struggle, a story from the killer.  I wonder what would your story would be if it was your son.  :jester:

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2013, 11:14:08 AM
So the forensic expert was wrong, because his knees were not dirty in that picture?  The EXPERT says Trayvon was on top.  An EYE-WITNESS says he was on top.  I guess they are wrong, huh?

Like I said, I didn't watch the trial.  I just followed summaries that came out daily regarding the courtroom proceedings.  To me, if someone is on top of someone else "pounding their head" then one would have to assume that their knees would be on the ground and that their pants would show some evidence of that.  There is no evidence of damage to his pants around the knees.  No tears; no stains; no dirt.

I would like to see what was presented to the jury in the form of oral arguments when that picture was introduced.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Quote from: Bo D on July 16, 2013, 11:17:35 AM
What about the right hand? No marks there either.

Nope.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Another question I have along those lines is that if Martin was "pounding his head into the pavement," then how did his body end up in the grass?  That may have come out at the trial, so if it did, please clue me in. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

Quote from: Locutus on July 16, 2013, 11:22:03 AM
Another question I have along those lines is that if Martin was "pounding his head into the pavement," then how did his body end up in the grass?  That may have come out at the trial, so if it did, please clue me in.

The defense addressed this by saying Zimmerman was on the grass and that his head was either near the edge of the concrete "dog walk sidewalk" or on top of it.

I wonder how the kid could take hold of his hairless head in order to pound it onto the ground?
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Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2013, 11:14:08 AM
The EXPERT says Trayvon was on top.

What expert; the one hired by the defense?
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Locutus

Quote from: Palehorse on July 16, 2013, 11:25:05 AM
The defense addressed this by saying Zimmerman was on the grass and that his head was either near the edge of the concrete "dog walk sidewalk" or on top of it.

I wonder how the kid could take hold of his hairless head in order to pound it onto the ground?

Okay, so if that's the case, then it can be safely assumed that Trayvon Martin's pants, and specifically the knees, would have also been on the grass.  That picture clearly shows that his knees have no grass stains and no dirt on them whatsoever. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: Palehorse on July 16, 2013, 11:25:05 AM
I wonder how the kid could take hold of his hairless head in order to pound it onto the ground?

All while not getting any of Zimmerman's DNA on him!  The defense (and the two stooges here) would have us believe that that DNA was degraded because the clothing was wet when it was bagged even while Martin's DNA was not!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

If he was on top, then why are there no grass stains, scuffs, or other soiling of the knees of his pants?

If you want to say because he had his knees on his arms, then how does Zimmerman reach his firearm with his arms pinned?
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2013, 11:10:59 AM
THIS, I agree with.  The rest is a BS and you know it.  The defense made a great case in presenting facts.

No, the defense did a good job of casting doubt on facts...huge difference.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: Exterminator on July 16, 2013, 11:29:26 AM
All while not getting any of Zimmerman's DNA on him!  The defense (and the two stooges here) would have us believe that that DNA was degraded because the clothing was wet when it was bagged even while Martin's DNA was not!

Exactly. If Trayvon was on top, beating Zimmerman's head into the ground, he would have had to grasp his head in a violent manner, and this would put Zimmerman's DNA under his finger-nails and scratches on Zimmerman's face and ears.

And yet, nothing. Did the investigators / medical examiner do nail scrapings? The assumption is yes, and no Zimmerman DNA!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville