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Trayvon Martin

Started by Henry Hawk, March 29, 2012, 11:07:06 AM

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Henry Hawk

Stevie Wonder says he will not be performing in the Sunshine State until its Stand Your Ground law is "abolished." He also said he would not be performing in any other state that recognizes the law.

Believe it or not, I think THIS is the way you protest something you don't like.  I applaud him for this type of action.  He is not making any attacks, just standing up behind his belief.  Actions are louder than words.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2013, 10:11:40 AM
nothing different than YOU dehumanizing Zimmerman.....YOU have YOUR opinion...I have MINE.

The obvious difference is that there is no evidence whatsoever that proves that Martin did anything beyond defend himself.  There's lots of evidence and some convictions to back up Zimmerman being a scumbag.  Why am I not surprised that you worship him?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2013, 10:17:35 AM
...because evidence indicates that Zimmerman is telling us the truth.

Which evidence is that?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2013, 10:22:11 AM
Stevie Wonder says he will not be performing in the Sunshine State until its Stand Your Ground law is "abolished." He also said he would not be performing in any other state that recognizes the law.

Believe it or not, I think THIS is the way you protest something you don't like.  I applaud him for this type of action.  He is not making any attacks, just standing up behind his belief.  Actions are louder than words.

Stevie Wonder still has a following?   :biggrin:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2013, 10:17:35 AM
There IS a reason for them thinking that way too........because evidence indicates that Zimmerman is telling us the truth.

Again, are you sure about this?   I'm not.  Zimmerman is a proven liar.

The only conclusion that the verdict indicates is that the state didn't prove its case. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

I wasn't going to post this because some might get squeamish, but I'll post a link with a strong disclaimer.  Here is one of the pictures of Trayvon Martin's body as it was found and photographed by police and shown to the jury.  It doesn't look to me like a picture of someone who had just been in a violent struggle with someone else.

EXTREMELY GRAPHIC PICTURE OF A DEAD BODY.  DO NOT CLICK IF YOU ARE SQUEAMISH OR ARE DISTURBED BY SUCH IMAGES

http://s16.postimg.org/t7t49e2dx/Screen_Shot_2013_07_14_at_12_23_30_AM.png
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on July 16, 2013, 10:49:56 AM
I wasn't going to post this because some might get squeamish, but I'll post a link with a strong disclaimer.  Here is one of the pictures of Trayvon Martin's body as it was found and photographed by police and shown to the jury.  It doesn't look to me like a picture of someone who had just been in a violent struggle with someone else.

EXTREMELY GRAPHIC PICTURE OF A DEAD BODY.  DO NOT CLICK IF YOU ARE SQUEAMISH OR ARE DISTURBED BY SUCH IMAGES

http://s16.postimg.org/t7t49e2dx/Screen_Shot_2013_07_14_at_12_23_30_AM.png

He looks DEAD!  How is a person who has been in a violent struggle supposed to look like?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2013, 10:55:24 AM
He looks DEAD!  How is a person who has been in a violent struggle supposed to look like?

Remember the story of the struggle and who was on top of whom?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: Locutus on July 16, 2013, 10:49:56 AM
It doesn't look to me like a picture of someone who had just been in a violent struggle with someone else.

Me either.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on July 16, 2013, 10:41:35 AM
The obvious difference is that there is no evidence whatsoever that proves that Martin did anything beyond defend himself. 

Other than the fact he was only a few yards from home when he hung up with the Rachel chick.....and it took him four minutes to instigate a fight, where HE broke Z's nose and bashed his head on the ground.  If he was "afraid" he could have continued home and STILL be alive.  He didn't make that decision.....he chose to have words and attack.  That is WHY Zimmerman is free today.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on July 16, 2013, 10:56:12 AM
Remember the story of the struggle and who was on top of whom?

What SHOULD have he looked like then?  I am struggling with your conclusion.  Pictures of Zimmerman clearly shows that he WAS indeed attacked....not the attacker.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2013, 11:01:44 AM
What SHOULD have he looked like then?  I am struggling with your conclusion.  Pictures of Zimmerman clearly shows that he WAS indeed attacked....not the attacker.

Look at that picture again, and look specifically at the knees.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2013, 10:59:53 AM
Other than the fact he was only a few yards from home when he hung up with the Rachel chick.....and it took him four minutes to instigate a fight, where HE broke Z's nose and bashed his head on the ground.

Please provide proof of any of this...you claim there's evidence; let's see it.

QuoteIf he was "afraid" he could have continued home and STILL be alive.  He didn't make that decision.....he chose to have words and attack.

There you go again, dehumanizing the dead kid by making allegations that neither you nor anyone else can prove.  Why does Zimmerman have the right to defend himself but Trayvon didn't?

QuoteThat is WHY Zimmerman is free today.

Zimmerman will never be free.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Locutus on July 16, 2013, 11:03:17 AM
Look at that picture again, and look specifically at the knees.

I'm sure all he sees is a black kid the way he wishes all of them looked.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on July 16, 2013, 11:08:02 AM
Zimmerman will never be free.

THIS, I agree with.  The rest is a BS and you know it.  The defense made a great case in presenting facts.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW