Trayvon Martin

[Exterminator]

There you go, you guys make things personal EVERYTIME you are wrong about something.........EVERYTIME!

And what are we wrong about; that you are conveniently ignoring that white people have also attacked black people over this?

[Exterminator]

Who said it was okay?

Your silence on the issue is deafening.

[Henry Hawk]

And what are we wrong about; that you are conveniently ignoring that white people have also attacked black people over this?

That is the first case I have heard regarding white people attacking.........and I am not condoning it either.......lock up their sorry asses too. I am not ignoring crap.  The fact is, this is an issue because the media made it this way.  The LIBERAL media, I will add.

[Henry Hawk]

The bottom line is this...and this is facts according to a Jury.  Trayvon is DEAD, becasue HE attacked a man.  He could have went home if he was afraid.  He had FOUR MINUTES after he hung up the phone to make his was a hundred yards to his home, but HE decided to be a punk and have it out with Zimmerman. 

Zimmerman did NOT chase him down and kill him.  That has been decided by a JURY.

[Locutus]

Zimmerman did NOT chase him down and kill him.  That has been decided by a JURY.

I didn't watch the trial, but are you sure that's what they decided?  I'm not.

BTW, a not guilty verdict doesn't necessarily connote innocence.   

[Henry Hawk]

I didn't watch the trial, but are you sure that's what they decided?  I'm not.

BTW, a not guilty verdict doesn't necessarily connote innocence.   

From what I understood was, they had to believe it was self-defense, in order to NOT have him convicted of manslaughter.  Even one of the jurers is NOW saying that they has NO DOUBT that Zimmerman FEARED for his life.

[Locutus]

So they have to be WIDESPREAD in order to be a bad thing?

I said, "There have been no widespread riots."   That's true.

You said, "Really?"

That's what prompted my response.

As to Sharpton's protests in 100 cities, I would like to remind you that a protest doesn't equal a riot.  Remember, I live in South Florida very close to the city of Miami and I know a riot when I see one, and there haven't been any widespread riots in response to this verdict.  To claim otherwise is to simply lie. 

[Locutus]

From what I understood was, they had to believe it was self-defense, in order to NOT have him convicted of manslaughter.  Even one of the jurers is NOW saying that they has NO DOUBT that Zimmerman FEARED for his life.

Yes, I saw that.  It's the same juror that's already planning to pad her pockets with a book deal. 

[Henry Hawk]

Yes, I saw that.  It's the same juror that's already planning to pad her pockets with a book deal. 

The juror had planned to write the book with her husband, who is an attorney, explaining how the jury had "no option" but to find Zimmerman not guilty, but she subsequently decided not to proceed with publication...."Now that I am returned to my family and to society in general, I have realized that the best direction for me to go is away from writing any sort of book and return instead to my life as it was before I was called to sit on this jury,"

[Locutus]

I don't think anyone with half a brain needs an explanation as to why the jury had no option other than a not guilty verdict.  Like I have said before, the state didn't prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Henry Hawk]

I don't think anyone with half a brain needs an explanation as to why the jury had no option other than a not guilty verdict.  Like I have said before, the state didn't prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt.

That is what the Chief of Police said from the beginning, but was FIRED, because the MEDIA demanded an arrest.

I think the defense did a GREAT job of defending Zimmerman too....the "four minute" segment was solid.

[Exterminator]

The bottom line is this...and this is facts according to a Jury.  Trayvon is DEAD, becasue HE attacked a man.

No, the facts are that the jury could not decide beyond a reasonable doubt that Trayvon did not attack Zimmerman, nothing more, nothing less.

BTW, this is one of those instances I was talking about of your attempting to dehumanize a dead teenager.

[Henry Hawk]

I said, "There have been no widespread riots."   That's true.

You said, "Really?"

That's what prompted my response.

As to Sharpton's protests in 100 cities, I would like to remind you that a protest doesn't equal a riot.  Remember, I live in South Florida very close to the city of Miami and I know a riot when I see one, and there haven't been any widespread riots in response to this verdict.  To claim otherwise is to simply lie. 

I too  have not claimed they are wide spread....but there IS riots and reports of violence in LA, Oakland and Baltimore....because of this verdict.

[Henry Hawk]

No, the facts are that the jury could not decide beyond a reasonable doubt that Trayvon did not attack Zimmerman, nothing more, nothing less.

BTW, this is one of those instances I was talking about of your attempting to dehumanize a dead teenager.

nothing different than YOU dehumanizing Zimmerman.....YOU have YOUR opinion...I have MINE. 

[Henry Hawk]

No, the facts are that the jury could not decide beyond a reasonable doubt that Trayvon did not attack Zimmerman, nothing more, nothing less.

There IS a reason for them thinking that way too........because evidence indicates that Zimmerman is telling us the truth.