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Trayvon Martin

Started by Henry Hawk, March 29, 2012, 11:07:06 AM

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Bo D

Quote from: me on March 30, 2012, 01:31:42 PM
Uh, how else do you think I might have heard about it to bring it up?

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I searched the Fox news website and there is NO mention of it.
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Olias on March 30, 2012, 01:33:44 PM
:bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag:

I searched the Fox news website and there is NO mention of it.

What are you looking for?
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Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 30, 2012, 01:42:26 PM
What are you looking for?

Right there ... at the top of this page ... you made the comment "my point is WHERE is the rest of the media."  in talking about that attack on the white boy.
"Me" said she heard about it on Fox. But there is no mention of the story there.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Bo D

Do all wingnuts have the memory span of a walnut?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

The Troll

Quote from: me on March 30, 2012, 10:29:40 AM
The questions still remains...What was he doing in a gated community at night in the rain and what time at night was it?  They need to quit with the race baiting and ask the same questions which would be asked if Trayvon had been white and shot by the same Mexican American.

  Did you ever walk in the rain at night?  My rain coat has a hoodie and I have walked in the dark and in the rain.  Have you?

  If Travvon was white Zimmerman would have went straight to jail.  What is one more "coon" killed.  :doh:

  My wife, myself and many camper who was in the trailer park where we stayed rode our bicycles in two the areas where they had a arch gate but not gates nor security guards.  The people who lived there would wave and speak to us as we rode by.

  My one question is, why didn't Zimmerman leave the gun in the car?  Why didn't Zimmerman just watch him for awhile, in five minutes he would have been in the house.

  I can remember back a few years ago when two black kids walked by my house and I didn't know any blacks live in my town.  I ask my wife who they were.  She told me they lived down the street and since they were carrying books I presumed they were walking to school.  Yes, one of them was wearing a hoodie.

  Did I go get my Colt 45 run out and question what they were doing in my town.  Noooooooo!  They were American born and they had the same right to be on the street as me.  Did I shoot one or both of them, Nooooooo!

  As far as I know the streets in a unguarded  community are not private.  I have drove and walk in communities where the gates were down.  The community the boy was in didn't have any no trespassing signs.  Only "neighborhood watch" and "security cameras" signs.  He had more right to be there you you or me.  Because his his father was there.

  But then and again I wouldn't have to say this if you have one bit of common sense.

  So many of the so call gated communities once they get full they drop the gates and the security guard.  It cost to much and to much hassle for the people coming to visit and service people who fix things and cut grass.  :doh:

  If you want to talk about gated communities, ONO ISLAND at Gulf Shores Al., how that's a gated community.  To get in there you go over the water on the bridge though a security post where there are two guards.  Nobody get in there unless you have a invitation or the guards call the people you want to see and then maybe they will let you in.   :biggrin:

The Troll

Quote from: Olias on March 30, 2012, 11:17:26 AM
Not true. A burglar breaks into your home. He thought you were away on vacation. You hear him tearing apart your living room and you attack him with a crowbar. He shoots you and flees. Violent crime.

Does he hate you? He doesn't even know you.

You're walking down Main Street late at night. Someone comes up to you and demands your wallet. You resist. He shoots you.Violent crime.

Does he hate you? He doesn't even know you.

  What would it be if the robber was black and he was robbing "ME" and he said, shut up white bitch.  All of you white bitches have your mouth open and then he shoots her.   :wink:  I would think there was a little racist, hate crime.  Huh.   :wink:

The Troll

Quote from: The Troll on March 30, 2012, 02:31:24 PM
  What would it be if the robber was black and he was robbing "ME" and he said, shut up white bitch.  All of you white bitches have your mouth open and then he shoots her.   :wink:  I would think there was a little racist, hate crime.  Huh.   :wink:

  I was wondering if "ME" was attacking her husband with her big mouth, could he shoot her and claim it's stand your ground and it was self defense?

:hunt::me:  You guys know that Indiana has the stand your ground law.   :yes: :yes: :no: :no:

Locutus

I don't think it's as liberal in interpreting the surrounding circumstances as Florida's law is. 
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The Troll

Quote from: Locutus on March 30, 2012, 10:33:57 PM
I don't think it's as liberal in interpreting the surrounding circumstances as Florida's law is.

   Let's hope not.  There is a time and place to use deadly force.  Sticking your nose in someone else's business when they are on a public sidewalk walking and shooting them is not one of them.

  I don't know if they can hang him with premeditated murder, he sure is guilty of intentionally accidental homicide.  Just like if your kill someone when you're driving drunk.  That should bring a bunch of felony time in prison.   Can you imagine how the other black prisoners are going to except him when he gets there.   :wink: :smile:

  Also there is going to be a civil trial, just like O.J. Simpson which would have cost him millions.  If the state doesn't get him the feds will.  He going to pay big time for a one hell of stupid uncalled for killing of a young man.   :yes: :yes: :yes:

Anne

At our crime watch meeting we were told that the Indiana law basically says if they are on your property you don't have to retreat into your house to use force against them. Troll is right in that we are told to call the police if we see something out of the ordinary or suspicious but not to follow or confront anyone. They do tell you what to look for and try to remember, color and type of clothing, height, body type and hair and skin color.

I think Mr. Zimmerman did a stupid thing following Mr. Martin and probably should go to jail. I will be interested to hear all of what went on. I was surprised (probably should not have been though) in the difference in the pictures of the two men. The first ones were of a very young Mr. Martin (I would guess about 13) and a mug shot of Mr. Zimmerman. The next set Mr. Martin was a recent one and he looks like an adult and Mr. Zimmerman is in a suit and tie like a pic for a business brochure or something. The different pictures present different views of both men. Doesn't change the circumstances, just maybe the perception of the viewer.
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Locutus

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Interesting.  Zimmerman's lawyers are dropping him because they can't contact him and no longer know where he is.  He's apparently no longer in the state of Florida, but is "in the United States" somewhere.

Any bets as to whether he has the balls to turn himself in if the prosecutor files charges, or will he just continue what now appears to be a fear induced life on the lam?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

Quote from: Locutus on April 10, 2012, 09:29:55 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Interesting.  Zimmerman's lawyers are dropping him because they can't contact him and no longer know where he is.  He's apparently no longer in the state of Florida, but is "in the United States" somewhere.

Any bets as to whether he has the balls to turn himself in if the prosecutor files charges, or will he just continue what now appears to be a fear induced life on the lam?

  I hope the damn killer tries to run, hid like the coward he is.  If the new prosecutor doesn't charge him with a crime, her career is over.  But I think she is going to hang his ass.  I would like to be on his jury.  I would hear all he had to say, then I would hang the coward.  :hanged:

Locutus

Well the new prosecutor said today that she'll be releasing new information on the investigation, and will be holding a news conference in the next three days.  So something is going to be forthcoming by the end of the week it seems. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

Quote from: Locutus on April 10, 2012, 09:58:55 PM
Well the new prosecutor said today that she'll be releasing new information on the investigation, and will be holding a news conference in the next three days.  So something is going to be forthcoming by the end of the week it seems.

  I think Zimmerman knows his ass is grass   :mow:  That's why he's out of the state hiding and started his own website.   :wink:

me

Kind of makes one wonder what else the media has done to stir the pot so to speak.  Notice this is not a Fox link.



Source: NBC producer fired over Zimmerman 911 call
Associated PressBy FRAZIER MOORE | Associated Press – Sat, Apr 7, 2012

   

NEW YORK (AP) — NBC News has fired a producer for editing a recording of George Zimmerman's call to police the night he shot Trayvon Martin, a person with direct knowledge of the matter said Saturday.

The person was not authorized to talk about the situation publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity. The identity of the producer was not disclosed.

An NBC spokeswoman declined to comment.

The producer's dismissal followed an internal investigation that led to NBC apologizing for having aired the misleading audio.

NBC's "Today" show first aired the edited version of Zimmerman's call on March 27. The recording viewers heard was trimmed to suggest that Zimmerman volunteered to police, with no prompting, that Martin was black: "This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black."

But the portion of the tape that was deleted had the 911 dispatcher asking Zimmerman if the person who had raised his suspicion was "black, white or Hispanic," to which Zimmerman responded, "He looks black."

Later that night of Feb. 26, the 17-year-old Martin was fatally shot by Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer in Sanford, Fla. Though Martin was unarmed, Zimmerman told police he fired in self-defense after Martin attacked him.

Questions subsequently have arisen over whether Zimmerman was racially profiling the teen, a theory the edited version of the tape seemed to support.

On Tuesday, NBC said its investigation turned up "an error made in the production process that we deeply regret." It promised that "necessary steps" would be taken "to prevent this from happening in the future" and apologized to viewers.

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