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#6840
December 21, 2017, 08:45:08 PM


  Are these companies going to give these bonuses next year and on.  :haha:  The tax cut for corporations go on forever.  :haha:    Oh, all of the bullshit.  :trustme:

Y

#6841
December 25, 2017, 07:12:53 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 21, 2017, 09:32:22 AM
AT&T plans to invest an additional $1 billion in the U.S. next year..............AND they announced that they will pay a special bonus of $1,000 to more than 200,000 U.S. employees now that the Republican tax reform bill is signed into law...


It is looking like it is GOING TO BE A MERRY CHRISTMAS FOR ALL! :yes:  (Except for those who choose to believe the crap Schumer and Pelosi are spewing.)  ;)

Why are you SO lazy, intellectually dead, and ideologically lockstep that you can't and won't do even a modicum of research.

ATT - nor any other corporate entity - isn't being generous with the corporate windfall just handed them by Repugs and Drumpf. 

Even a cursory bit of research would show that it's us poor slobs who are paying those bonuses, not ATT. 

Those bonuses are tax write-offs for the company, and the recipients will be taxed on them - most likely at a higher rate.

The expected taxes that should be paid on those corporate windfalls will have to be made up by the middle class.

I can't believe you Repugs are SO damn stupid!
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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

#6842
December 25, 2017, 07:32:25 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 21, 2017, 12:23:18 PM
......but, for me, it comes down to some common sense.  Give people a Tax break......the economy will rock!!! When the economy ROCKS, the federal revenue will increase. 

Jee-bus Kee-rist!!!

Anyone with a modicum of sense knows by now that 'trickle down' is only pizzing down your leg and is NOT a valid working economic policy. 

That's been proved time and time again since that idiot Ronnie Ray-gun tried to hoodwink the populace with that BS.

The corporate entities and the one percenters don't pass the money down, the corps. use it for buying back stock and paying out big CEO etc. salaries and bonuses, the one percenters bank it.  It doesn't 'trickle down' to the working class.  It never has, and never will.  Those two groups dispensed with any pretensions of the Social Contract long ago.     

Also, the limiting/elimination of the Mortgage Exemption is going to burn the housing market - new and used.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Palehorse

#6843
December 25, 2017, 08:01:58 PM
Quote from: Y on December 25, 2017, 07:32:25 PM

. . .
Also, the limiting/elimination of the Mortgage Exemption is going to burn the housing market - new and used.

That's the big one and I can't believe the sheep 🐑 believe it is a good thing. We will see how they feel as they begin losing their homes 🏡 in droves! 😡😡😡😡

I concur 150% with the balance of the post that I edited from the quote above as well.
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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Henry Hawk

#6844
December 26, 2017, 08:35:50 AM
Quote from: Y on December 25, 2017, 07:32:25 PM
Also, the limiting/elimination of the Mortgage Exemption is going to burn the housing market - new and used.

The bill does not change the treatment of existing mortgages. Interest paid on up to $750,000 of new home mortgage debt will remain deductible for principal residences for taxpayers who itemize. The new rules lower the threshold from the current-law level of $1 million and exclude the ability to deduct interest on second homes.

The current treatment of interest payments for individuals in the tax code is uneven, treating different interest payments differently. Ideally, all interest should be treated uniformly while minimizing double taxation.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#6845
December 28, 2017, 01:00:18 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 26, 2017, 08:35:50 AM
The bill does not change the treatment of existing mortgages. Interest paid on up to $750,000 of new home mortgage debt will remain deductible for principal residences for taxpayers who itemize. The new rules lower the threshold from the current-law level of $1 million and exclude the ability to deduct interest on second homes.

The current treatment of interest payments for individuals in the tax code is uneven, treating different interest payments differently. Ideally, all interest should be treated uniformly while minimizing double taxation.

also.......i found this to be interesting too...
">https://www.cbsnews.com/embed/videos/how-the-tax-bill-will-affect-the-returns-of-three-american-families/" id="cbsNewsVideo" frameborder="0" width="620" height="349">
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#6846
December 28, 2017, 06:54:04 PM

Another interesting point that the mainstream media....


Rasmussen Poll shows Trump at 46% APPROVE this morning, with 53% DISAPPROVE...


What about Obama at same exact date first year in presidency?? 46% APPROVE, 53% DISAPPROVE!



"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#6847
December 29, 2017, 12:10:45 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 28, 2017, 06:54:04 PM
Another interesting point that the mainstream media....


Rasmussen Poll shows Trump at 46% APPROVE this morning, with 53% DISAPPROVE...


What about Obama at same exact date first year in presidency?? 46% APPROVE, 53% DISAPPROVE!

🤮🙄
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

AbbyTC

#6848
December 30, 2017, 05:47:52 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 28, 2017, 06:54:04 PM
Another interesting point that the mainstream media....


Rasmussen Poll shows Trump at 46% APPROVE this morning, with 53% DISAPPROVE...


What about Obama at same exact date first year in presidency?? 46% APPROVE, 53% DISAPPROVE!

I was just reading about this.  You do realize the Rasmussen Poll uses an automated system that only calls landline phones. How many young people have landlines?  I don't even have a landline!  About half the people in America use only cell phones.  Rasmussen also uses online polls, but they don't use probability sampling, which would give them more of a random sample.

From an article I read, "Rasmussen's polling received a C+ rating in FiveThirtyEight's most recent pollster rankings, and it has been found to lean toward the GOP when compared with other pollsters, which means it typically understated support for Obama and has a tendency to overstate support for Trump when compared with other polls."
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Palehorse

#6849
December 30, 2017, 05:51:34 PM
Quote from: AbbyTC on December 30, 2017, 05:47:52 PM
I was just reading about this.  You do realize the Rasmussen Poll uses an automated system that only calls landline phones. How many young people have landlines?  I don't even have a landline!  About half the people in America use only cell phones.  Rasmussen also uses online polls, but they don't use probability sampling, which would give them more of a random sample.

From an article I read, "Rasmussen's polling received a C+ rating in FiveThirtyEight's most recent pollster rankings, and it has been found to lean toward the GOP when compared with other pollsters, which means it typically understated support for Obama and has a tendency to overstate support for Trump when compared with other polls."

There you go again, infusing facts into fiction.  :smile:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

AbbyTC

#6850
December 30, 2017, 05:52:52 PM
Shit
Quote from: Palehorse on December 30, 2017, 05:51:34 PM
There you go again, infusing facts into fiction.  :smile:

Shit! I am so sorry to bring facts into this discussion!   ;D
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Palehorse

#6851
December 30, 2017, 05:55:30 PM
Quote from: AbbyTC on December 30, 2017, 05:52:52 PM
Shit
Shit! I am so sorry to bring facts into this discussion!   ;D

:biggrin:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

AbbyTC

#6852
December 30, 2017, 05:55:53 PM
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Locutus

#6853
December 30, 2017, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: AbbyTC on December 30, 2017, 05:55:53 PM
Hmmmm, can we say biased?

https://action.donaldjtrump.com/inaugural-year-approval-poll/

The clue to bias there is in the domain name.   :wink:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

AbbyTC

#6854
December 30, 2017, 07:11:38 PM
Quote from: Locutus on December 30, 2017, 06:40:02 PM
The clue to bias there is in the domain name.   :wink:

Yes, but I didn't think it would be that blatant!
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.
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