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AbbyTC

Quote from: me on October 02, 2017, 10:30:11 PM
If you don't see it there's no point in my telling you but you really should start paying attention to things.

Translation:  I cannot give you any examples.

Quote from: me on October 03, 2017, 12:21:39 PM
You just don't get it do you? Seems to me it's the left wanting to take our guns, money, and constitutional rights.

Do you understand how the constitution works and how amendments work and what it takes to get rid of or add an amendment?  Don't answer, we all know the answer is no.  Stricter gun laws (which are needed) do NOT equal taking away your guns.  What constitutional rights are supposedly going to be taken away?  What did Breitbart or Fox say this time?  And don't use this line again "If you don't see it there's no point in my telling you but you really should start paying attention to things."  I want true, verified examples, please.
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

me

Will you quit insinuating I'm stupid because I happen to see things differently than you? What needs to happen is the gun laws which are already there need inforced. Look at Chicago and DC which have some of the most strict gun laws around, especially Chicago. Aren't there still killings by gun every day in both places?
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on October 03, 2017, 12:21:39 PM
You just don't get it do you? Seems to me it's the left wanting to take our guns, money, and constitutional rights.

Note: Did not answer one single question asked. Not one. Instead tried to take the topic in another direction. 🙄
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: AbbyTC on October 03, 2017, 05:44:49 PM
. . .


Stricter gun laws (which are needed) do NOT equal taking away your guns.  . . .

I am of a different school of thought surrounding this.

All 50 years of "stricter gun laws" has achieved is to increase the regulatory hurdles and costs to own firearms for those that already comply with said laws in the first place. It has only served to further fill the coffers of state and local governments. Those who do not comply will never comply.

What truly is required are better mental health resources and programs designed to actually assess and treat these sick individuals.

Early information indicates this guy was a law abiding citizen that accumulated his weapons over a period of twenty years. And during those preceding twenty years he complied with the laws and legally obtained those weapons. Moreover it would appear on the surface that he snapped mentally at some point and did the deed.

It was well planned so he wasn't mentally incompetent by the legal definition of the term, but his psychological illness over rode his thought process and judgement. And there are millions of others suffering the same challenges.

The Aurora Colorado shooter stopped because he wanted at the onset to maintain anonymity and did not want to see the eyes of his victims or interact with them. He targeted those beyond the third row only for this very reason. It was only when a female sitting within those three rows made eye contact with him that he stopped. Because that made it personal and he could not go further.

This same twisted logic and thought process was likely going through the Vegas shooters mind and plan. It's why he chose the placement he did, and why he killed himself once the authorities located him . He had no desire to make the event personal and had a plan to deal with it once it eventually did.

His weapons were 100% legal, including the bump stocks he used to achieve automatic like fire modes.

Restricting those who already comply would not have impacted this event or any of the others that preceded it. . .

But it is the go to response none the less. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Quote from: me on October 03, 2017, 09:23:00 PM
Will you quit insinuating I'm stupid... What needs to happen is the gun laws which are already there need inforced.

Irony alert!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

AbbyTC

Quote from: Palehorse on October 04, 2017, 12:44:42 AM
Note: Did not answer one single question asked. Not one. Instead tried to take the topic in another direction. 🙄

PH, either you get "If you don't see it there's no point in my telling you but you really should start paying attention to things." kind of line or no answer at all and a diversion to something else. We should be used to it by now!  ;) I'm still waiting to find out if she understands how amendments work and what constitutional rights are going away.
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Palehorse

Quote from: AbbyTC on October 04, 2017, 06:08:38 PM
PH, either you get "If you don't see it there's no point in my telling you but you really should start paying attention to things." kind of line or no answer at all and a diversion to something else. We should be used to it by now!  ;) I'm still waiting to find out if she understands how amendments work and what constitutional rights are going away.

  :yes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

You belong among the wildflowers.
You belong somewhere you'll feel free.
Leave us here crying for hours,
As we free fall through the trees.

No we can't dance together.
No we can't talk at all.
Please take me along when you slide on down.

Ain't but one way out baby,
Lord I just can't go out the door.
Ain't but one way out baby,
Lord I just can't go out the door.

So, hear us now, we ain't wastin' time no more.
'Cause time rolls by like hurricanes;
Runnin' after the subway train.
Don't forget the pourin' rain. . .

And the mourners are all singin'
As they drag you by your feet.
But the hangman isn't hangin'
And they put you on the street.

Yeah, go back Jack; do it again.
You can stand me up at the gates of hell;
But I won't back down.

Hey baby, there ain't no easy way out.
Hey, I won't back down.
Hey, baby, there ain't no easy way out.
Hey, I will stand my ground.
And I won't back down.
No, I won't back down.

2017- You heartless bitch!
Raise your window baby, so I can ease out soft and slow.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Where is the outcry from the conservatives in this nation, as the Raging Cheeto continues signing executive orders?

This time, signing an executive order that will triple deductibles and certainly double + premiums!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

This will end up badly for 99% of Americans and expecting our do nothing congress to do anything about it is ludicrous. (They enjoy Cadillac healthcare for life). . .  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Roll out the dinosaurs. . .  :rolleyes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

libby

Quote from: Palehorse on October 13, 2017, 11:25:01 AM
Where is the outcry from the conservatives in this nation, as the Raging Cheeto continues signing executive orders?

This time, signing an executive order that will triple deductibles and certainly double + premiums!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

This will end up badly for 99% of Americans and expecting our do nothing congress to do anything about it is ludicrous. (They enjoy Cadillac healthcare for life). . .  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
>:( :mad:  :icon_evil: :rant:
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Palehorse

And again, where is the conservative outcry surrounding the deaths of 4 US military members in Niger? Nothing but silence from them. . .

Hypocrites. . .  :mad:

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

And their flagship propagandist "news" agency, FOX, pays 32 million dollars to settle a sexual harassment claim against O'reilly , then turn around and give him a huge contract extension. . .

Yet another example of the hypocrisy that is rampant within the conservative groups. . .  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on October 23, 2017, 11:39:38 AM
And their flagship propagandist "news" agency, FOX, pays 32 million dollars to settle a sexual harassment claim against O'reilly , then turn around and give him a huge contract extension. . .

Yet another example of the hypocrisy that is rampant within the conservative groups. . .  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:
Could this have anything to do with the descision? 

http://lasvegastribune.net/oreillys-accuser-arrested/
Trump 2020

Palehorse

Quote from: me on October 23, 2017, 11:56:25 AM
Could this have anything to do with the descision? 

http://lasvegastribune.net/oreillys-accuser-arrested/

There you go. First thing to do when you are cornered is to go after the victim.

Next you'll be posting about the widow of one or more of those slain military members in Niger. . .  :rolleyes: :rant:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville