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[Palehorse]

I can't if it's all just a simulation. 

That's where I was going. 

[Locutus]

That's where I was going. 

I'm a mind reader. 

[Palehorse]

http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/04/news/companies/mustaine-megadeth-mens-warehouse/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

LMFAO! Mens Wearhouse gets ripped on Facebook after they punk Dave Mustaine of Megadeth and Metallica fame. And it makes national news!

Mustaine left Hetfield's mouth a "bloody pile of chick-lets" after a disagreement with him and got the boot from Metallica for his trouble. Wonder what he'd do to that MW guy?   

[me]

December 29, 2012 marked the 122nd Anniversary of the murder of 297 Sioux Indians at Wounded Knee Creek on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota .
These 297 people, in their winter camp, were murdered by federal agents and members of the 7th Cavalry who had come to confiscate their firearms "for their own safety and protection". The slaughter began AFTER the majority of the Sioux had peacefully turned in their firearms. When the final round had flown, of the 297 dead or dying, two thirds (200) were women and children.

Around 40 members of the 7th Cavalry were killed, over half cut down by friendly fire from the Hotchkiss guns of their overzealous comrades-in-arms. Twenty members of the 7th Cavalry were deemed "National Heros" and awarded the Medal of Honor for their acts of cowardice.

We do not hear of Wounded Knee today. It is not mentioned in our history classes or books. What little does exist about Wounded Knee is normally the sanitized "Official Government Explanation" or the historically and factually inaccurate depictions of the events leading up to the massacre on the movie screen.

Wounded Knee was among the first federally backed gun confiscation attempts in United States history. It ended in the senseless murder of 297 people.

Before you jump on the emotionally charged bandwagon for gun-control, take a moment to reflect on the real purpose of the Second Amendment. The right of the people to take up arms in defense of themselves, their families, and property in the face of invading armies or an oppressive government. The argument that the Second Amendment only applies to hunting and target shooting is asinine. When the United States Constitution was drafted "hunting" was an everyday chore carried out by men and women to put meat on the table each night, and "target shooting" was an unheard of concept, musket balls were a precious commodity in the wilds of early America , and were certainly not wasted "target shooting". The Second Amendment was written by people who fled oppressive and tyrannical regimes in Europe, and refers to the right of American citizens to be armed for defense purposes should such tyranny rise in the United States .

As time goes on the average citizen in the United States continues to lose personal freedom or "liberty". Far too many times unjust bills are passed and signed into law under the guise of "for your safety" or "for protection". The Patriot Act signed into law by G.W. Bush, then expanded and continued by Barack Obama is just one of many examples of American citizens being stripped of their rights and privacy for "safety". Now, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is on the table, and will, most likely be taken away for "our safety".

Before any American citizen blindly accepts whatever new firearms legislation that is about to be doled out, they should stop and think about something for just one minute.
Evil does exist in our world. It always has and always will. Throughout history evil people have committed evil acts. In the Bible one of the first stories is that of Cain killing Abel. We can not legislate "evil" into extinction. Good people will abide by the law, defective people will always find a way around it.

And another thought. Evil exists all around us, but looking back at the historical record of the past 200 years across the globe, where is "evil" and "malevolence" most often found? In the hands of those with the power - governments. That greatest human tragedies on record and the largest loss of innocent human life can be attributed to governments. Who do governments target? "Scapegoats" and "enemies" within their own borders...but only after they have been disarmed to the point where they are no longer a threat. Ask any Native American, and they will tell you it was inferior technology and lack of arms that contributed to their demise. Ask any Armenian why it was so easy for the Turks to exterminate millions of them, and they will answer "We were disarmed before it happened". Ask any Jew what Hitler's first step prior to the mass murders of the Holocaust was - confiscation of firearms from the people.

Wounded Knee is the prime example of why the Second Amendment exists, and why we shouldn't be in such a hurry to surrender our Right to Bear Arms. Without the Second Amendment we have no right to defend ourselves and our families.

[Exterminator]

These 297 people, in their winter camp, were murdered by federal agents and members of the 7th Cavalry who had come to confiscate their firearms "for their own safety and protection".

This is absolute bullshit and another prime example of your forwarding whatever shows up in your email box as fact without spending any time whatsoever to actually do any research.  The American Inidan Wars went on for roughly 150 years and had more to do with the government repeatedly failing to honor the treaties they had made with native Americans and continuing to encroach on their lands than any attempt to disarm them.  Attempting to use these events as a tool in the current gun debate, especially by the same people who perpetuated these atrocities, is the epitome of ignorance and an insult to history.

[followsthewolf]

Nice try.

Won't have any effect.

Instead of thinking about what you just said, her knee-jerk reaction will be to reject the logic and the real history of the conflict because it has nothing to do with the Second Amendment.

Of course she will deny this and tell you that you don't have any idea of what you are talking about.

"He's my date. He's a French model."

[Exterminator]

It's especially sad in that our state is so righ in that troubling history, much of it having happened literally less that two hours from where she now lives.

[me]

No, the conflict itself has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment but the end result of them having given up their guns does.  Quit nit picking and think for a change.

[me]

It's especially sad in that our state is so righ in that troubling history, much of it having happened literally less that two hours from where she now lives.

The biggest part of it happened even closer to where I was born.

[Palehorse]

Yet another instance of attempting to pimp the Native American Nations . . . 

[me]

Yet another instance of attempting to pimp the Native American Nations . . . 

Ya know if it hadn't been a full blooded Native American I copied that from I probably wouldn't have bothered to post it but it was.  Pimping?  I don't think so.  Example as to what can happen if you lay down your weapons?  Yes.

[Palehorse]

Ya know if it hadn't been a full blooded Native American I copied that from I probably wouldn't have bothered to post it but it was.  Pimping?  I don't think so.  Example as to what can happen if you lay down your weapons?  Yes.

Using Native Americans as an example to defend rights this nation never extended to them in the first place, and rights used as a means to validate the genocide it imposed upon them, is unacceptable. Totally unacceptable.

[Exterminator]

Using Native Americans as an example to defend rights this nation never extended to them in the first place, and rights used as a means to validate the genocide it imposed upon them, is unacceptable. Totally unacceptable.

And I'm not buying that a native American sent you that any more thanI believed your anecdotal healthcare stories from your close personal friends in Canada.  The diatribe you posted appears on every right-wing propaganda website.

[me]

And I'm not buying that a native American sent you that any more thanI believed your anecdotal healthcare stories from your close personal friends in Canada.  The diatribe you posted appears on every right-wing propaganda website.

Your choice, both of you.  Just remember the same Native American that sent that is from that area and also against Obama which has nothing to do with this other than they don't see things as either of you.  And Ex those close personal friends happen to be relatives who lived in Canada and experienced their health care and one just happened to be a nurse.  I don't give a rats ass whether you believe me or not.  The friends are still living in Canada because they chose not to move here when they seen what was going on so they are in the process of selling the property they had purchased and have also changed their minds about opening a business here. 

Come on with your nasty remarks it only shows you for the little person you are. 

[Exterminator]

I don't give a rats ass whether you believe me or not.

It's not like you are known for being a truthful person here.