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Started by Palehorse, March 08, 2011, 07:53:14 AM

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Palehorse

#15
March 09, 2011, 01:07:50 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2011, 12:47:02 PM
nor shall any State deprive any person of life...


What is the legal definition of "life"?
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Henry Hawk

#16
March 09, 2011, 01:20:28 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on March 09, 2011, 01:07:50 PM
What is the legal definition of "life"?

THAT is the million dollar question.  Many beleive it is the moment of conception.  There is and will be NO conclusive definition that all will agree on.  Why not leave this issue to the will of the people instead of nine black robes?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#17
March 09, 2011, 01:24:00 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2011, 01:20:28 PM
THAT is the million dollar question.  Many beleive it is the moment of conception.  There is and will be NO conclusive definition that all will agree on.  Why not leave this issue to the will of the people instead of nine black robes?

No, that is the religious definition! And I am not about to leave it to a bunch of individuals who cannot even agree on which sky daddy is the right one!

Those "nine black robes" are constitutionally bound to make such calls!
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#18
March 09, 2011, 01:29:50 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on March 09, 2011, 01:24:00 PM
Those "nine black robes" are constitutionally bound to make such calls!

and those black robes have shown that THEY can even dispute and not have the same view on the Constitution....it is now a manner of having the correct number of black robes that think the same, to say something is constitutional.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#19
March 09, 2011, 01:33:12 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2011, 01:29:50 PM
and those black robes have shown that THEY can even dispute and not have the same view on the Constitution....it is now a manner of having the correct number of black robes that think the same, to say something is constitutional.

A lot like congress. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#20
March 09, 2011, 01:36:15 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on March 09, 2011, 01:33:12 PM
A lot like congress. . .

but at the least, we the people, VOTE them in.....be it good or bad.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#21
March 09, 2011, 02:19:41 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2011, 01:29:50 PM
and those black robes have shown that THEY can even dispute and not have the same view on the Constitution....it is now a manner of having the correct number of black robes that think the same, to say something is constitutional.

So, are you saying because you may disagree with the SCOTUS then we should not abide by their decisions? It is after all constitutional.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#22
March 09, 2011, 02:45:35 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on March 09, 2011, 02:19:41 PM
So, are you saying because you may disagree with the SCOTUS then we should not abide by their decisions? It is after all constitutional.

I'm not ready to cross down that path.....I'm just stating a danger I see as a potential threat.  I know that YOU see this also.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#23
March 09, 2011, 03:41:10 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2011, 02:45:35 PM
I'm not ready to cross down that path.....I'm just stating a danger I see as a potential threat.  I know that YOU see this also.

You're damned right I see it, and that decision to grant faceless soul-less corporations constitutional rights was just a symptom of what I see wrong with the SCOTUS. However, Roe vs Wade has very little to do with those sitting there now. . . Aside from them affirming the decision.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

#24
March 09, 2011, 03:42:27 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2011, 01:36:15 PM
but at the least, we the people, VOTE them in.....be it good or bad.

Yeah, just like "we" did with Charlie White, the republican elect secretary of state of Indiana that is looking more and more like he is going to be doing a stretch in the sin bin. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#25
March 09, 2011, 03:50:10 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on March 09, 2011, 03:42:27 PM
Yeah, just like "we" did with Charlie White, the republican elect secretary of state of Indiana that is looking more and more like he is going to be doing a stretch in the sin bin. . .

YOU know there is scum in both parties......
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#26
March 09, 2011, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2011, 03:50:10 PM
YOU know there is scum in both parties......

I won't dispute what is true, but:

This case just proves how blinded voters have become to the candidates they are voting for. They suck up the propaganda and mudslinging lies as if they were the gospel being spewed by the messiah, and in the process elect pseudo nazi's and criminals into office that are worse than the ones we had in office in the first place!  :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#27
March 09, 2011, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on March 09, 2011, 03:51:28 PM
I won't dispute what is true, but:

This case just proves how blinded voters have become to the candidates they are voting for. They suck up the propaganda and mudslinging lies as if they were the gospel being spewed by the messiah, and in the process elect pseudo nazi's and criminals into office that are worse than the ones we had in office in the first place!  :mad:


Just for the record he has not been proven guilty of anything....he has been indicted, NO verdict has been reached.  Apparently YOU have reached a verdict already...is is possible, JUST possible that you are a victim of being "sucked up the propaganda and mudslinging lies as if they were the gospel"?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#28
March 09, 2011, 04:30:45 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2011, 04:21:11 PM

Just for the record he has not been proven guilty of anything....he has been indicted, NO verdict has been reached.  Apparently YOU have reached a verdict already...is is possible, JUST possible that you are a victim of being "sucked up the propaganda and mudslinging lies as if they were the gospel"?

Possible, but not probable.

When a grand jury hands down an indictment you can bet that whatever the evidence is, it is pretty damning. Besides, I believe that where there is smoke there is fire. And now the guy is under a second investigation over his handling of a report on his own case!

Or do you think that the state assembled a grand jury consisting entirely of democrats?  :rolleyes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#29
March 09, 2011, 04:43:03 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on March 09, 2011, 04:30:45 PM
Or do you think that the state assembled a grand jury consisting entirely of democrats?  :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:
don't need to get nasty....I just pointed out that he has not been proven guilty and yet YOU are ready to throw the first stone....

several time already since it broke news.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW
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