Stimulus Spending

[Palehorse]

We all go through that period in our life, but then we get old and we get it back, SS, Medicare, etc.

We won't if the party of "NO" gets its way!

[followsthewolf]

all of that stuff may be fine and dandy...........but when we are facing a serious debt and deficiet.............we got to quit spending.

just like our personal lives, we would love to have all of the thrills and chills this life has to offer, but you do what you can afford.

We got to have some limits to what we spend.  Am I the only one on here, besides me, that understands this?

No kidding.

I agree with that, and simply made a comment that the sticking point was determining what was "stupid."

It means different things to different people, and as long as we have polarized viewpoints:

Which is what I was trying to point out to you when you simply went and copy-pasted a list of what HANNITY  thought was "stupid."

As long as we simply let other people spoon-feed us our thoughts, we have abdicated our precious right to vote on our own.

That is what I originally said and have been trying to point out since.   

[Exterminator]

We all go through that period in our life, but then we get old and we get it back, SS, Medicare, etc.

Some of you get "back" a whole lot more than you put in and some of us pay the difference.

[Anne]

Maybe, maybe not. IMO, SS and Medicare in one form or another will always be around barring complete collapse of the government.

[Henry Hawk]

Trust me, your family with five kids is the recipient of way more benefits than mine.  In fact, I live in a two (good) income family with no dependents; any idea how many government programs benefit us?  None, notta, zilch, zero.  Every dependent tax write-off you get we pay for.

Isn't that the way you want it?

I think that brings us to a whole new thread, on our current tax system.  Is it time to restructure it....ie Fair Tax, Federal Sales Tax, Flat tax....maybe it is really time to start cleaning house, and maybe the "rich" would not have so many shelters to find and rules to bend.

[followsthewolf]

Some of you get "back" a whole lot more than you put in and some of us pay the difference.

And some of us get next to nothing back after qualifying for it.

[Palehorse]

By the time I get old enough to qualify for it, the party of no will have thrown us all under the bus!!!

Hell, they've got a rather large group of us at the curb right now. . . .

[Exterminator]

By the time I get old enough to qualify for it, the party of no will have thrown us all under the bus!!!

Hell, they've got a rather large group of us at the curb right now. . . .

It would be folly at this point to depend on our contributions for our retirement but it could be worse...remember when Henry agreed it'd be a good idea to put the money in the market?

[Henry Hawk]

It would be folly at this point to depend on our contributions for our retirement but it could be worse...remember when Henry agreed it'd be a good idea to put the money in the market?

I would STILL rather have it there.....there are still safe and secure investments out there, that will draw a much larger return, and more importantly, it will be there when I retire.........even YOU know it is a folly to depend on it being there the way it is now.

[Exterminator]

Seriously?  If that money had been put into the market when it was suggested, most of it would be gone now.  Get a grip.

[The Troll]

I would STILL rather have it there.....there are still safe and secure investments out there, that will draw a much larger return, and more importantly, it will be there when I retire.........even YOU know it is a folly to depend on it being there the way it is now.

There are no secure investments in the stock market.  We lost $62,000 in electricity production companies and food companies in George W's stock market bubble.

  Remember the Widow and Children's stocks.  IBM, U.S. Steel, General Motors, Ford Motor Co., Enron,  City Group,  Madoff and many other stocks that everybody thought would last forever.   I just love it when they say keep your stock for the long term.  Yeah, the longer you keep it the more likely you will loose it.  The only stock I'm making money on now is my gold stock.  Now that's doing good.  I more than doubled my money.  It's to bad I couldn't have done it on the other stock.  But George W. and the Republicans took care of that.   

  Don't put any money in the stock market you can't afford to loose.  It almost like Los Vegas 

[Henry Hawk]

Seriously?  If that money had been put into the market when it was suggested, most of it would be gone now.  Get a grip.

and how much more dependable is this than what we currently have?  There are some investments that have been stable, heck, like Troll said, putting it into Gold would have been great.