*@$%*^!!! Judge stops federal funding of embryonic stem cell research

[Palehorse]

http://www.dnapolicy.org/policy.international.php?laws_id=36&action=detail



My cousin in Cal did have a stem cell transplant 2yrs ago and it did put his cancer in remission for a while but he lost the battle about 2months ago so it didn't cure it only gave him a little more time and allowed the family to do some things they had been wanting to do but would otherwise not have been able to had it not been for the transplant.

And your point is??

[followsthewolf]

So, by your reasoning, we should not pursue that branch of medicine, and we should just let people die.

Wow. That is so compassionate.

Certainly am glad you aren't a nurse.

[me]

Where did I say that?

So, by your reasoning, we should not pursue that branch of medicine, and we should just let people die.

Wow. That is so compassionate.

Certainly am glad you aren't a nurse.

That, although it was not a cure, it gave him time he might not have otherwise had without it.

And your point is??

[The Troll]

Where did I say that?
That, although it was not a cure, it gave him time he might not have otherwise had without it.

  Who in Hell gave you DO GOODERS the right to stick your nose in someone else sickness.  Who in Hell gave you the right to prolong some one else pain and sickness.  Just who in Hell do you think you are.  A selfmade God.

  If it isn't your embryonic stem cell, your embryo get the Hell out of the scientists way and let them find a cure for the horrible diseases.

  It none of your Damn Business!  Can I make it any clearer for you idiots?

[Henry Hawk]

  Who in Hell gave you DO GOODERS the right to stick your nose in someone else sickness.  Who in Hell gave you the right to prolong some one else pain and sickness.  Just who in Hell do you think you are.  A selfmade God.

  If it isn't your embryonic stem cell, your embryo get the Hell out of the scientists way and let them find a cure for the horrible diseases.

  It none of your Damn Business!  Can I make it any clearer for you idiots?

when it comes to federal tax dollars we DO have a say in it......it IS some of my damn business.

All I am saying is, we need some strict guidlines on this whole embryo business....and I have not heard any of the details on how these embryo's are being gathered for this research.

another thing I have concerns on, is MOST of the studies I have read about is that the embryotic cells are NOT being successful, that they have been more "tumor" causing than being helpful....the adult stem cells has had a very postive outlook...

I have some concerns that women may decide to use their bodies as a embryo producing machine for cash...and THAT to me is border lining a criminal act.

But, I understand that those people who are dealing with tragic illnesses, and are desperate for cures....and I think we need to support, REAL and honest measures to find these cures, but politics has got to stay out of it.

but don't try to tell me it is none of my damn business......

[Sandy Eggo]

I have a concern that people who are ignorant of the science behind this will continue to derail the possibilities.

[me]

  Who in Hell gave you DO GOODERS the right to stick your nose in someone else sickness.  Who in Hell gave you the right to prolong some one else pain and sickness.  Just who in Hell do you think you are.  A selfmade God.

  If it isn't your embryonic stem cell, your embryo get the Hell out of the scientists way and let them find a cure for the horrible diseases.

  It none of your Damn Business!  Can I make it any clearer for you idiots?

What????  Troll get a grip and read what I wrote. 

[Henry Hawk]

I have a concern that people who are ignorant of the science behind this will continue to derail the possibilities.

I admit, I have not had dinner with any scientist who is using embronic stem cells, but I have read much about it....and for your information, I am not wanting to derail anything on this....I just want some strict guidlines put in place IF, my money is going to be mandated to such a project.

[Exterminator]

I have a concern that people who are ignorant of the science behind this will continue to derail the possibilities.

...all the while telling us how they aren't trying to force their religion down our throats.

[Henry Hawk]

...all the while telling us how they aren't trying to force their religion down our throats.

who, exactly is forcing religion down anyones throat?

[Exterminator]

The entire debate over stem cell research is centered on bullshit Christian beliefs.

[Henry Hawk]

The entire debate over stem cell research is centered on bullshit Christian beliefs.

Not really....I think there is valid argument on how much is to be gained on using embryo's....and IF a woman is going to become an embryo making machine for profit.....you don't have to be a Christian to realize killing a baby is "killing"....and to do it for cash is just wrong in many peoples minds, Christian or not.

[Exterminator]

Bullshit.  An embryo is not a baby.

[me]

Not really....I think there is valid argument on how much is to be gained on using embryo's....and IF a woman is going to become an embryo making machine for profit.....you don't have to be a Christian to realize killing a baby is "killing"....and to do it for cash is just wrong in many peoples minds, Christian or not.

HH in spite of popular belief and what was spread around Bush didn't have a problem with stem cell research what he had the problem with was cloning and that is what he didn't want to spend federal dollars on.  But, like you mentioned in an earlier post they have had much better luck with harvested stem cells which were not embryonic.  I just don't understand why they wouldn't put more money into researching non embryonic stem cells since they've had better luck with those. 

[Exterminator]

You should read more about the science then...not that not knowing about something has ever stopped you from forming an opinion before.