Christianity Debate

[Exterminator]

I'm still waiting for a Christian to explain to me how it's possible that this Jesus fellow led essentially the same life...born to a virgin, had disciples, was crucified, rose from the dead on the third day, atoned for the sins of mankind, and returned to heaven...as a deity from another religion, Mithra, who predated him.  That sure is one hell of a coincidence!

[followsthewolf]

Ain't it the truth, Ex.

Damndest juxtaposition of circumstances I've ever seen.

Yet, it's supposed to be a myth.

Errrrr.......aahhhh.......which one is the myth, you say?

My point, exactly.

[The Troll]

I'm still waiting for a Christian to explain to me how it's possible that this Jesus fellow led essentially the same life...born to a virgin, had disciples, was crucified, rose from the dead on the third day, atoned for the sins of mankind, and returned to heaven...as a deity from another religion, Mithra, who predated him.  That sure is one hell of a coincidence!

  If you want some interesting imformation on the God Mithra.  I think you will find it interesting, I had never see it before.

   Just Goggle in  (Jesus as a reincarnation of Mirhra.)

[Sandy Eggo]

YOUR point was made in YOUR video...Sandy, the old testament is well documented..

No, Henry THE point you tried to make was made in the video. The old testament is "well documented" where? In the Old Testament? See the dilemma?

.IF, you "choose" not to believe the content is fine, but the Torah is real, and it's writtings have prophecies...NOW again, I don't care if you do not believe in it or not, but there IS some astounding facts that have come to light, based upon some very profound studies of it.

Please share the astounding facts and  reference the profound studies and let me be the judge.  I choose not to believe, because there isn't any proof. I ask for it and no one can provide it. You may be able to suspend all reasoning and accept this thing blindly, but you can't expect anyone else to want to.

cand with all due respect, I am going to kindly step out of this thread....because NOTHING either of us can say will change anything....sharing the gospel with an interested person is one thing....

Yes, sharing is a far cry from proof.

arguing and debating with them is another....disagreeing and trying to understand one can be a great thing....but, arguing about the truth, and in my case, the truth is Jesus,......it is not a good thing to do, and is it just not necessary, imo.....

And here is why religion of any kind, can't be debated. When challenged, rather than stepping up to the challenge, the religious tuck tail and run.

Debate is a good thing, but it has been my experience that religious people dedicate ALL aspects of their lives to their religion. It's sadly apparent that when faced with overwhelming evidence and basic information,  they almost have no choice but to ignore and deny it. For the religious it is more than changing one's mind, it's a complete demolition and restructuring of all aspects of their lives. That's a lot to ask of someone when the payoff is simply recognizing the truth.

[Henry Hawk]

No, Henry THE point you tried to make was made in the video. The old testament is "well documented" where? In the Old Testament? See the dilemma?

the dead sea scrolls for one....

[The Troll]

the dead sea scrolls for one....

  I watch a whole show of the dead sea scrolls on the Discovery Channel.  They have spent a Zillion hours by a zillion religious "experts: and from what I could see they found nothing earth shattering or proof of anything earth shattering. 

  Nothing that would change my mind of the bible or Christianity.  Nothing.  I wish there was a God and have someone to blame of all of his mismanagement of the world.

[followsthewolf]

So far as I know, the experts do not agree even about who wrote them.

Some say the Essenes, others say they were written by a conglomeration of ordinary people who lived at the time.

The scrolls can't really confirm anything.

[LOsborne]

The scrolls are simply copies of books of the Old Testament, along with some commentary, and a few new chapters. There is nothing from the New Testament, and nothing at all about current events at the time. How can they be factual documentation of anything?

http://www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html

[The Troll]

  Anyone with on ounce of grey matter can tell  you the the dead sea scrolls was the desperation writing of some religious fanatic writing down "hear say"

  The bible was written by men who wanted to controll the downtrodden people.  So they could get their last shekel.  Like the story of God telling King David when he defeated Jericho.  Kill all of the men, kill all of the women, kill all children, the sheep, goats, oxen and bring the gold, silver, copper, lead back to the temple.  Why, who knows, as of now God still doesn't take money, but God's preacher do.

  One question why aren't all of the books of the bible, not in the New Testament.

             www.bibleufo.com/anomlostbooks.htm