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Started by Henry Hawk, June 11, 2010, 04:27:16 PM

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Palehorse

#105
June 16, 2010, 04:58:22 PM
Quote from: Anne on June 16, 2010, 04:41:36 PM
I don't think there is much he can do, but he says he can and then doesn't. He says he "made" BP establish a slush fund for paying for the cleanup and people who lost money because of the spill. We all know he didn't "make" them do anything, he asked and they agreed but he took credit of "making" them do it. So I guess imo he would be better off to quit making those disruptive trips to the gulf and llet the people who know what to do get on with their jobs.

Source for this?

According to the top dog at BP, this was all done at the insistence of the POTUS. BP just wanted to keep doing it themselves with their corporate -2% NET 90 DAY approach!
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The Troll

#106
June 16, 2010, 05:51:56 PM
Quote from: Anne on June 16, 2010, 04:41:36 PM
I don't think there is much he can do, but he says he can and then doesn't. He says he "made" BP establish a slush fund for paying for the cleanup and people who lost money because of the spill. We all know he didn't "make" them do anything, he asked and they agreed but he took credit of "making" them do it. So I guess imo he would be better off to quit making those disruptive trips to the gulf and llet the people who know what to do get on with their jobs.

  Let's face it "Anne" if he took the money out of his own pocket and offered to pay for a cruise for you and someone else to take with you.  He's still a sucmbag.  Still a tanned scumbag.  Why, because you are a Republican and you want them back in so they can continue to screw up this country.  Right, "Anne"

LOsborne

#107
June 16, 2010, 06:48:02 PM
Quote from: Anne on June 16, 2010, 04:41:36 PM
... llet the people who know what to do get on with their jobs.

Who are these people, and why haven't they been doing these things?

LOsborne

#108
June 16, 2010, 06:49:48 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 16, 2010, 08:35:22 AM
I had no problem with Bill Clinton as a leader.  I did not like his politics, but he was a very good leader.

Has one hell of a cute butt, too.

LOsborne

#109
June 16, 2010, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 16, 2010, 08:35:22 AM
....hell, even I know I cannot write something that well composed...

Yes, you can, if you would just take the time to spell and grammar check your stuff. You express yourself well, Henry. That's why I read your posts. That's why you sometimes make me reconsider my position.

LOsborne

#110
June 16, 2010, 06:54:13 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 16, 2010, 08:35:22 AM

...and I am not being absurd about KNOWING that this man being a qualified leader...he is not.
 

I am not disputing your opinion of his leadership abilities in general. I am disputing your insistence that there is something more he could be doing personally, in this particular case.

Palehorse

#111
June 16, 2010, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Anne on June 16, 2010, 04:41:36 PM
I don't think there is much he can do, but he says he can and then doesn't. He says he "made" BP establish a slush fund for paying for the cleanup and people who lost money because of the spill. We all know he didn't "make" them do anything, he asked and they agreed but he took credit of "making" them do it. So I guess imo he would be better off to quit making those disruptive trips to the gulf and llet the people who know what to do get on with their jobs.

More hate and malice with nothing of substance to back it up. . .
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Anne

#112
June 16, 2010, 08:07:45 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 16, 2010, 04:58:22 PM
Source for this?

According to the top dog at BP, this was all done at the insistence of the POTUS. BP just wanted to keep doing it themselves with their corporate -2% NET 90 DAY approach!

British Company, I don't think he can take control of the company and "make" them do anything. He can freeze their holdings in the US but he can't  take them over like he can a US company. The "make" them do something, watch any speech he has made in the last two weeks. Insistance is not "making" anyone do anything.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Anne

#113
June 16, 2010, 08:08:24 PM
Quote from: The Troll on June 16, 2010, 05:51:56 PM
  Let's face it "Anne" if he took the money out of his own pocket and offered to pay for a cruise for you and someone else to take with you.  He's still a sucmbag.  Still a tanned scumbag.  Why, because you are a Republican and you want them back in so they can continue to screw up this country.  Right, "Anne"

If who took money out of his pocket? You make no sense.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Palehorse

#114
June 16, 2010, 08:10:12 PM
Quote from: Anne on June 16, 2010, 08:07:45 PM
British Company, I don't think he can take control of the company and "make" them do anything. He can freeze their holdings in the US but he can't  take them over like he can a US company. The "make" them do something, watch any speech he has made in the last two weeks. Insistance is not "making" anyone do anything.

The terms of the agreement (Read Permit) provides for just that. They are subject to US Law and control, and they agreed to that as a condition of their permit. Jeopardy is attached.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Anne

#115
June 16, 2010, 08:12:52 PM
Quote from: LOsborne on June 16, 2010, 06:48:02 PM
Who are these people, and why haven't they been doing these things?

Well,it certainly isn't President Obama, even he said he doesn't know how to stop the "leak", so why is he going down there and getting in the way of people who are working. I can bet while he was on the beach not one thing was being done to clean it up. Like I said I think he has done what he can, and I think he has done what he said last night, it is time  to let the people who understand the mechanics do what needs to be done or at least try to fix things.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

LOsborne

#116
June 16, 2010, 08:13:18 PM

Anne

#117
June 16, 2010, 08:13:41 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 16, 2010, 08:10:12 PM
The terms of the agreement (Read Permit) provides for just that. They are subject to US Law and control, and they agreed to that as a condition of their permit. Jeopardy is attached.

Provide for the US to take over the company?
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Palehorse

#118
June 16, 2010, 08:14:24 PM
Quote from: LOsborne on June 16, 2010, 08:13:18 PM
Source, please?

Do your own homework.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

LOsborne

#119
June 16, 2010, 08:15:02 PM
Quote from: Anne on June 16, 2010, 08:12:52 PM
Well,it certainly isn't President Obama ...

I didn't ask who it isn't, Anne. You said, "llet the people who know what to do get on with their jobs." That implies there are people who know what to do. Who do you think they are?
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