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"Topkill" - Will it Turn into Bottomkill?

Started by Palehorse, May 27, 2010, 11:34:13 AM

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Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 08, 2010, 01:18:50 PM
THAT is a bad attitude to have, with the "there is nothing can be done about saving the fish in the Gulf"....there ARE some great Idea's out there that are not being implemented or even TRIED!!....sitting back and waiting for them to 'stop' this oil is NOT a good approach to this.......hell, they may not stop this until fall!!...we cannot sit back and wait......THAT is what the admin is doing....

Troll, I have been down in the Pan handle area a few times, and I have fished of of the coast of Panama...and I am sick to my stomach about this WHOLE fiasco....I think we need to be doing everything possible to save as much of the wild life and fish as possible.....and worry about who is going to pay for it AFTER we get a grip on it...........I have no doubts that BP is going to have to empty their pockets on this one....there ARE some ideas we GOT to at least TRY...

  No Henry, it is not a bad attitude, it reality when I speak.  You been there, you seen how big the Gulf is.  Tell he what are they going to do save the fish out in the Gulf.  Their breathing oil, their eating oil, their covered with oil.  Tell how is Man is going to save these fish.  Henry take a aquarium full of fish, nice pretty expense fish and put a shot glass of dirty motor oil, it's cleaner than crude and pour in the water and see how long you have fish and a clean aquarium.

  SAVE WHAT THEY CAN, HELL WITH THE REST UNTIL THEY GET IT TURNED OFF.  We all are going to have to pay for it, one way or the other.  You surely know what life really like by now.

Palehorse

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The Troll


                                       ATTENTION

  AC 360  Anderson Cooper      Exclusive   BP Surivors   CNN tonight 10 ET

                             I'm going to watch.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 08, 2010, 01:33:37 PM
  No Henry, it is not a bad attitude, it reality when I speak.  You been there, you seen how big the Gulf is.  Tell he what are they going to do save the fish out in the Gulf.  Their breathing oil, their eating oil, their covered with oil.  Tell how is Man is going to save these fish.  Henry take a aquarium full of fish, nice pretty expense fish and put a shot glass of dirty motor oil, it's cleaner than crude and pour in the water and see how long you have fish and a clean aquarium.

  SAVE WHAT THEY CAN, HELL WITH THE REST UNTIL THEY GET IT TURNED OFF.  We all are going to have to pay for it, one way or the other.  You surely know what life really like by now.

I have NO freaking doubt that WE ALL will pay for it....in some shape, way or form....I know we GOT to cap it, but we should not rest until this thing is ALL cleaned up....but sitting back and waiting is NOT good enough.....if I had an aquarium with crude oil in it, I would not WAIT until my fish died before I at least TRIED to save them....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on June 08, 2010, 01:39:33 PM
And that is different how?

not quite as barbaric as you seem to want to portray....I didn't want him there two years ago, and I am only confident that my choice back then was the right one now...

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 08, 2010, 01:45:53 PM
not quite as barbaric as you seem to want to portray....I didn't want him there two years ago, and I am only confident that my choice back then was the right one now...

YIKES!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Interestingly your ire does not extend toward the purveyors of this black death though. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on June 08, 2010, 01:50:01 PM
Interestingly your ire does not extend toward the purveyors of this black death though. . .

and WHY would you say that?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 08, 2010, 04:06:34 PM
and WHY would you say that?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2010, 02:25:00 PM
I think you need to give them a chance first to see how they handle things AFTER they stop it....
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on June 08, 2010, 04:14:23 PM

Quote from: Palehorse on June 08, 2010, 04:14:23 PM


I STILL do!!!.....but, that does not mean I think it SUCKS that BP AND our Government did NOT have a 'Plan' IF and WHEN such an event happens...it is not all BP's fault...there is plenty of blame to go around......they have said from the begginning that they would pay for ALL damages.....and it wasn't even two weeks and the left was ready to take them to court.....HELL, let them have a chance to prove themselves....they HAVE been kind of busy...at least they are not partying with Paul McCartney and playing golf every day...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 08, 2010, 04:19:34 PM
I STILL do!!!.....but, that does not mean I think it SUCKS that BP AND our Government did NOT have a 'Plan' IF and WHEN such an event happens...it is not all BP's fault...there is plenty of blame to go around......they have said from the begginning that they would pay for ALL damages.....and it wasn't even two weeks and the left was ready to take them to court.....HELL, let them have a chance to prove themselves....they HAVE been kind of busy...

Exactly my point! 

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 08, 2010, 04:23:58 PM
Have they stopped it yet?

No, bottom - kill is in full swing. . . But you seem to think the POTUS can stop it. . . :rolleyes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

. . . "AC360°," five survivors of the rig tell Anderson Cooper about the days leading up to the explosion. Watch "AC360°" at 10 ET Tuesday night, live from the Gulf.
(CNN) -- The morning the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded, a BP executive and a Transocean official argued over how to proceed with the drilling, rig survivors told CNN's Anderson Cooper in an exclusive interview.
The survivors' account paints perhaps the most detailed picture yet of what happened on the deepwater rig -- and the possible causes of the April 20 explosion.
The BP official wanted workers to replace heavy mud, used to keep the well's pressure down, with lighter seawater to help speed a process that was costing an estimated $750,000 a day and was already running five weeks late, rig survivors told CNN.
BP won the argument, said Doug Brown, the rig's chief mechanic. "He basically said, 'Well, this is how it's gonna be.' "
"That's what the big argument was about," added Daniel Barron III.
Shortly after the exchange, chief driller Dewey Revette expressed concern and opposition too, the workers said, and on the drilling floor, they chatted among themselves.
"I don't ever remember doing this," they said, according to Barron.
"I think that's why Dewey was so reluctant to try to do it," Barron said, "because he didn't feel it was the right way to have things done."
Tracking the spill
Video: Survivors of oil rig explosion speak Video: Oil spill from year 1910 still visible Video: Florida's wildlife in danger
Revette was among the 11 workers killed when the rig exploded that night.
In the CNN interviews, the workers described a corporate culture of cutting staff and ignoring warning signs ahead of the blast. They said BP routinely cut corners and pushed ahead despite concerns about safety.
The rig survivors also said it was always understood that you could get fired if you raised safety concerns that might delay drilling. Some co-workers had been fired for speaking out, they said.. . .

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/08/oil.rig.warning.signs/index.html?hpt=T2

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville