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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

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Palehorse

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Palehorse

And now, as if Trump isn't enough, he is meeting with the Anti-Christ (Pence) about the VP role. . .  :rolleyes: :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

Quote from: me on July 01, 2016, 03:52:45 PM
Oh really?


Hell, my moms side of the family on grandpa's side has high cheek bones too but I have no Indian heritage.


Do you even read what you post?  There's no proof in there at all.  :confused:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

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Locutus

Quote from: Palehorse on July 01, 2016, 04:15:50 PM
And now, as if Trump isn't enough, he is meeting with the Anti-Christ (Pence) about the VP role. . .  :rolleyes: :mad:

That's a match made in hell.  :big grin:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson


Locutus

Quote from: me on July 01, 2016, 04:53:03 PM
Exactly, now listen to Elizabeth Warren.

What the hell was the purpose of that article you posted?  I thought you said it was proven that she didn't have that heritage.  :confused:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

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libby

 :rolleyes:  I hereby crown Me the Zone Queen of Obfuscation (whether intentional or not)  :razz:
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me

Ok, so go ahead and believe her lie. I guess I must be part Native American too since my mom, grandfather, great grandmother, and great great grandfather all had high cheekbones, dark hair, and are from Wyo. Sheesh how dense can you all be anyway. Elizabeth Warren and old Hill are both liars.
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AbbyTC

Quote from: libby on July 02, 2016, 03:48:57 PM
:rolleyes:  I hereby crown Me the Zone Queen of Obfuscation (whether intentional or not)  :razz:

Good one, Libby!
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libby

All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

me

Didn't bother to listen to the video or read the articles did any of you? 
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libby

Quote from: me on July 02, 2016, 05:36:55 PM
Ok, so go ahead and believe her lie. I guess I must be part Native American too since my mom, grandfather, great grandmother, and great great grandfather all had high cheekbones, dark hair, and are from Wyo. Sheesh how dense can you all be anyway. Elizabeth Warren and old Hill are both liars.
Quote from: me on July 02, 2016, 11:53:52 PM
Didn't bother to listen to the video or read the articles did any of you?
I watch, read, listen to what is going on, including Fox News Sunday. In fact, living and working where I do, you can't escape politics or politicians. So, I don't intend to argue with you about whether or not Elizabeth Warren has Indian blood in her. It's racist, and particularly offensive that someone like Donald Trump, born into wealth, and to whom truth is at best relative, would use such an argument against Warren, who knows what it was like to be poor.



All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

me

Quote from: libby on July 03, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
I watch, read, listen to what is going on, including Fox News Sunday. In fact, living and working where I do, you can't escape politics or politicians. So, I don't intend to argue with you about whether or not Elizabeth Warren has Indian blood in her. It's racist, and particularly offensive that someone like Donald Trump, born into wealth, and to whom truth is at best relative, would use such an argument against Warren, who knows what it was like to be poor.
Then I guess I can indeed claim to be of Native American haritage since my family has high cheekbones, I know what it's like to be poor, and am from Wyo. And now fyi he had nothing to do with questioning her haritage he is just bringing it back up.

QuoteWarren initially denies knowing why Harvard touted her as Native American

The controversy was sparked in late April 2012, when the Boston Herald revealed[1] that in the late 1990s Harvard Law School had promoted Warren as a Native American faculty member, based on a report in The Harvard Crimson in 1996[2]:

    "Although the conventional wisdom among  students and faculty is that  the Law School faculty includes no minority women,  Chmura said Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren is Native American."

The Harvard Crimson reported similar information in 1998[3]:

    Harvard Law School currently has only one tenured minority woman, Gottlieb Professor of Law Elizabeth Warren, who is Native American.

Prior to the Herald report, the public was unaware that Warren claimed to be Cherokee.  In none of the public interviews[4] or testimony she gave prior to that point had Warren revealed that she was Native American.

In the introductory campaign video explaining "Who I Am,"[5]Warren did not mention being Native American.

When confronted by reporters, Warren claimed not to know why Harvard[6] was promoting her as Native American, and said that she only learned of it by reading the newspaper reports.[7]
Bloggers and Reporters uncover Warren's history of claiming to be Native American for employment purposes

Soon after the Boston Herald report, information was uncovered[8] by George Mason University Law School Professor David Bernstein[9] that starting in the mid-1980s, when she was at U.  Penn. Law School, Warren had put herself on the "Minority Law Teacher" list in the faculty directory of the Association of American Law Schools but dropped from that list when she gain tenure at Harvard in 1995.

Warren had not previously revealed these law directory entries.  The AALS directory was used as a recruiting tool[10] by law schools in that time period in order to identify, among other things, minority law professors.

According to Professor David Bernstein[11]:

    "In the old days before the Internet, you'd pull out the AALS directory and look up people. There are schools that if they were looking for a minority faculty member, would go to that list and might say, 'I didn't know Elizabeth Warren was a minority,' " said George Mason University Law professor David Bernstein, a former chairman of the American Association of Law Schools.

    Warren aides clammed up yesterday and refused to answer questions about why she stopped listing herself in the AALS directory after 1995. Around that time, Harvard Law School started boasting that Warren was their first minority female professor.

    "That appendix strikes me as obviously allowing people to announce themselves as being members of minority groups in case people are looking for such members for whatever reason," Bernstein said.

When confronted with this information, Warren admitted[12] she had filled out forms listing herself as Native American, claiming she wanted to meet other Native Americans:[13]

    Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren, fending off questions about whether she used her Native American heritage to advance her career, said today she enrolled herself as a minority in law school directories for nearly a decade because she hoped to meet other people with tribal roots.

    "I listed myself in the directory in the hopes that it might mean that I would be invited to a luncheon, a group something that might happen with people who are like I am. Nothing like that ever happened, that was clearly not the use for it and so I stopped checking it off," said Warren....

    "Being Native American has been part of my story I guess since the day I was born," said Warren, who never mentioned her Native American heritage on the campaign trail even as she detailed much of her personal history to voters in speeches, statements and a video. "These are my family stories, I have lived in a family that has talked about Native American and talked about tribes since I was a little girl."[14]

That explanation did not make sense[15] because the AALS faculty directory only listed Warren as "minority," not as "Native American," so putting herself on that list was not a way to meet other Native Americans.

Later, reporters uncovered that Warren had represented herself to both U. Penn[16] and Harvard for federal reporting purposes[17] as Native American.  Warren herself never disclosed that she had represented herself to U. Penn and Harvard as Native American, that information was discovered by reporters.

The Boston Globe[18] reported that Warren received recognition as a "minority" law professor while at U. Penn Law School:

    "The University of Pennsylvania, where Warren  taught at the law school  from 1987 through 1995, listed her as a minority in a "Minority Equity  Report" posted on its website. The report, published in 2005,  well after her departure, included her as the winner of a faculty award in 1994.  Her name was highlighted in bold, the designation used for minorities in the  report."

Investigative reporter Michael Patrick Leahy of Breitbart.com uncovered that in 1993, when Warren was a Visiting Professor at Harvard Law School, the Harvard Women's Law Journal included Warren on a list of Women of Color in Legal Academia.[19]  It was the policy of the Law Journal to check with the persons on the list before they were listed.

Politico[20] uncovered that in 1997 The Fordham Law Journal listed Warren as Harvard Law School's first "woman of color" on the faculty:

    "There are few women of color who hold important  positions in the  academy, Fortune 500 companies, or other prominent fields or  industries," the piece says. "This is not inconsequential. Diversifying  these  arenas, in part by adding qualified women of color to their ranks, remains  important for many reaons. For one, there are scant women of  color as role  models. In my three years at Stanford Law School, there  were no professors who  were women of color. Harvard Law School hired its first woman of color,  Elizabeth Warren, in 1995.""

Despite the listing of Warren as minority in the AALS Faculty Directly, the knowlege at U. Penn. Law that she was Native American and/or minority, the listing of Warren as a Woman of Color in Legal Academia in 1993, and Warren's own self-reporting to U.Penn and Havard Law Schools that she was Native American, Harvard Law Professor Charles Fried, a member of the hiring committee at the time, has asserted that he was not aware that Warren claimed to be Native American until after she was hired.[21]

Havard Law School has not released[22] the original hiring records to confirm Fried's recollection.
U. Penn and Harvard Made Federal Filings Based On Warren's Represenations

Warren, did not meet the two part test[23] under Harvard and EEOC definitions of Native American, a definition which likely was on the page[24] when she checked the box.  That definition requires both actual Native American ancestry and cultural identification through tribal affiliation or comunity recognition.

Warren did not meet either part of the test, and even if she believed her alleged family lore, Warren should have known that she could not show cultural identification.  Warren has refused to release[25] her personnel records which would contain the forms she signed.

Warren admitted that she did not meet the legal qualifications to be considered a racial minority[26]

Q.  But you would not call yourself a racial minority?

A.  The legal qualifications, no.

Harvard and U. Penn also refuse to release[27] these employment records.

As reported by The Boston Globe,[28] Warren's self-identification as Native American may have caused U. Penn. [29] and Harvard Law Schools to make false federal filings[30] with regard to faculty diversity.  Neither organization will release the records.
The Genealogical Evidence Shows Warren Has No Native American Ancestry

Detailed genealogical investigation by a group of Cherokee genealogists[31] showed that Warren had no Cherokee or other Native American ancestry.  The findings are set forth at the blog Thoughts From Polly's Grandaughter[32] which based the research on over one hundred primary sources,[33] and detailed the findings:

    The  team and I have done an exhaustive search on the genealogy of Elizabeth Warren.  We have researched ALL of her ancestral lines, but have only posted those she  claimed were Indian here in the blog. None of her direct line ancestors are ever  shown to be anything other than white, dating back to long before the Trail of  Tears.
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