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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

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Exterminator

Quote from: me on September 24, 2012, 01:36:07 PM
I haven't seen any quality leadership at all.  Well, for that matter any kind of leadership.

And you would know what that looks like how?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 24, 2012, 01:38:58 PM
AND WHAT WAS OBAMA'S RECORD TO STAND ON BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED?  A was barely a one-term US Senator with no distinguishing achievements. 

Doesn't matter; he's proven he could do it since.

Why are you and 'me' dodging the question about how Romney said he would handle Social Security and Medicare?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on September 24, 2012, 01:45:09 PM
Everything Mitt gets his hands on he bankrupts or outsourced. 

Okay, fellow zoners, are any of you going to call Troll out on this?

btw troll, Obama DID give Solondray and Solar Trust of America (just to name a few) of taxpayers money, and they went bankrupt.
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on September 24, 2012, 02:02:34 PM
Doesn't matter; he's proven he could do it since.

Why are you and 'me' dodging the question about how Romney said he would handle Social Security and Medicare?

What is to dodge?  He is at least going to give options to those who WANT private or government services......and is NOT going to effect anyone 55 years old.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 24, 2012, 02:44:02 PM
What is to dodge?  He is at least going to give options to those who WANT private or government services......and is NOT going to effect anyone 55 years old.

Is there something a "means based approach" that is beyond your capacity to understand simple English?  I asked dierctly about those who pay the most into the system receiving the fewest benefits.

Here is the conversation:
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PELLEY:  How would you change Social Security?

ROMNEY:  Well, again, no change in Social Security for -- for those that are in retirement or near retirement. What I'd do with Social Security is say this:  that again, people with higher incomes won't get the same high growth rate in their benefits as people of lower incomes. People who rely on Social Security should see the same kind of growth rate they've had in the past. But higher income folks would receive a little less.

PELLEY:  So that in the Romney administration, in the Romney plan, there would be means testing for Social Security and for Medicare?

ROMNEY:  That's correct. Higher-income people won't get as much as lower-income people. And by virtue of doing that -- and again, that's for future retirees. For -- by virtue of doing that, you are able to save these programs on a permanent basis.
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So, here's how this works...for the sake of argument, let's say that I make more money than you but we pay the same percentage of our income to Social Security and Medicare so I pay in more.  Since I make more, I am also more likely to retire with more meaning that you will benefit more from these programs than I will even though I paid in more.

How is that not the definition of resdistribution of income?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 24, 2012, 02:44:02 PM
What is to dodge?  He is at least going to give options to those who WANT private or government services......and is NOT going to effect anyone 55 years old.

  Let's freeze your age at what it is today, 52.  So that if Mitt gets elected  you will get what you're wanting to happen to other people.  I know you're hoping that you will be 55 before all of the ass cutting that Mitt, the rich and the Republican party wants to do with old people. :@#%&: :dam:

  But Mitt let something out about some of his health care plans.  He says that right now even if you don't have health insurance and you have something happen to you, say like a hearth attack, you can go to emergency and they will take care of you.  :doh:  What god damn planet did Mitt come from.  What a dumbass.   :rant:  Also on creating jobs and how he was going to do it.  "I AM GOING TO GIVE THEM FREEDOM!"  WOW!  :flap:  :flap:   :rotfl:  :rotfl:

  I just wish that there was a  planet somewhere that we could put Mitt, Lying Ryan, the Hawk and the 33% of the Republican voters on and let Mitt and Lying Ryan rule you.   :kneel:  and your new flag. :bsflag:   Meet your new gate keeper.  :devil29:  :haha:  :haha:    :haha:   :choo:   :choo:   :choo:

me

Trump 2020

me

Quote from: The Troll on September 24, 2012, 04:33:27 PM
  Let's freeze your age at what it is today, 52.  So that if Mitt gets elected  you will get what you're wanting to happen to other people.  I know you're hoping that you will be 55 before all of the ass cutting that Mitt, the rich and the Republican party wants to do with old people. :@#%&: :dam:

  But Mitt let something out about some of his health care plans.  He says that right now even if you don't have health insurance and you have something happen to you, say like a hearth attack, you can go to emergency and they will take care of you.  :doh:  What god damn planet did Mitt come from.  What a dumbass.   :rant:  Also on creating jobs and how he was going to do it.  "I AM GOING TO GIVE THEM FREEDOM!"  WOW!  :flap:  :flap:   :rotfl:  :rotfl:

  I just wish that there was a  planet somewhere that we could put Mitt, Lying Ryan, the Hawk and the 33% of the Republican voters on and let Mitt and Lying Ryan rule you.   :kneel:  and your new flag. :bsflag:   Meet your new gate keeper.  :devil29:  :haha:  :haha:    :haha:   :choo:   :choo:   :choo:
You can because I know people who did and it was paid for by charity.  The hospital helped them fill out the forms and it didn't cost them a dime because they were low income.  No, they aren't mooching off the system they both work but one is only able to work part time so their income fell in the guidelines for help.  No tax dollars were used either it was done with donations to the hospital and the hospital forgiving part of it.
Trump 2020

The Troll

Quote from: me on September 24, 2012, 05:24:33 PM
You can because I know people who did and it was paid for by charity.  The hospital helped them fill out the forms and it didn't cost them a dime because they were low income.  No, they aren't mooching off the system they both work but one is only able to work part time so their income fell in the guidelines for help.  No tax dollars were used either it was done with donations to the hospital and the hospital forgiving part of it.

  Hey, dumb ass.  Just who do you think pay for it.  It is you, me and the other people who use the medical system.  With higher medical cost and the lowering of medical care.  I do believe you are a moron when you say, no tax dollars used, we pay for it.  Red Squirrel.  Go store some more nuts.   :lol:

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 24, 2012, 02:42:00 PM
Okay, fellow zoners, are any of you going to call Troll out on this?

. . .

Why? The truth hurts doesn't it? Just ask the former employees of AmPad in Ft Wayne. . .
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May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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The Troll


  Say did you see the slight of hand by the Tax Wizard Mitt Romney pulled.   :yes:  While he was showing that fairy book, his tax forms of 2011.  The mathematician genius Paul Ryan showed his amended tax form.  :haha:

  This genius :genius: the master of figures, the wizard of the Ryan Budget.  Would you believe that he forgot to report $61,120 of his income.  Would you believe he forgot to report 20% of his income.  Well, I believe that figures lie and liars figure.   :yes:  Yes, Paul Ryan is a figuring liar.   :yes:

  Don't worry about Lying Ryan, he and his wife payed the shortage and also payed a fine for lying on his tax filing.  Just what I thought, he dumber than he looks and that is really a dumb look on his face with those big ears and buggy eyes.  :eye:  :biggrin:

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 24, 2012, 09:20:54 AM
and if YOU think Obama cares about YOU or ME you are nuts.  He is NOT a leader. It is that simple.  Romney does NOT need to be POTUS, he can live happily ever after with what he has.  He alreadly lives a pretty simple life, and he is a devoted family man, with a strong faith.

Capitalize the first letter of a sentence. (It is that simple)

As if you'd have even a basic idea of what a true leader is. . .  :rolleyes:

Ironically, you'd have called his religion a cult not too long ago; and many of your brethren still do.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 24, 2012, 09:20:54 AM
This whole crap of saying he doesn't know math, or he doesn't care about old people and push them over a cliff, or wants dirty air, that he cheats on his taxes....are all liberal talking points.

Points based in facts out of Romney's own mouth. And let me clarify my statement surrounding his "math" skills. See, much like a used / new car salesman, he counts on the average American citizen being baffled by the figures, and the basic math required to arrive at the real bottom line to be just as baffling to them.

And he's deathly afraid to provide specifics around his so called "plan", because he knows those amongst the population who actually CAN do math, will quickly figure out his "plan" doesn't add up, and that means that should he be elected, he will "quite simply" declare a fiscal emergency and raise taxes on the middle class to pay for the continuation of the reductions of the wealthy; under the guise of "paying down the deficit. . .

It's bullshit and a dirty sales tactic. The guy is lying through his teeth and there is a sector of the American population so desperate to get the "darkie" out of the White House, that even if they did know it would cost the entire middle class their livelihoods, they'd vote for it anyway. (Cutting their nose off to spite their face).  :rolleyes:

It is a proven fact that not only does Romney know math, but he knows the deceit it can provide with which to rob the masses. His record proves it.


Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 24, 2012, 09:20:54 AM
I admit, he is not the man I prefer to be running our country, but he is HANDS down, already proved to me that he has better leadership skills, and more ability to do the right things to create jobs that this country MUST get very, very soon, or we are ALL in big, big trouble.

I'm telling you what, the guy does indeed know how to create jobs; in other countries. He has put almost as many individuals out of work in his career, as wall street has. And he's looking to put more out too. . .  :yes:
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll


  The way I see it is, that Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are the Bernie Madoffs of the political world.   :yes:  Lie, lie, lie and cheat, cheat and cheat and no remorse.  :yes:  :trustme: