Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

[Locutus]

Why should we assume that ecological risk if the oil is just going to be shipped elsewhere and doesn't benefit the U.S. at all anyway.  We currently produce more crude than we have in the past 14 years and look at our gas prices!

...and we're exporting refined gas as well.

[Henry Hawk]

Why should we assume that ecological risk if the oil is just going to be shipped elsewhere and doesn't benefit the U.S. at all anyway.  We currently produce more crude than we have in the past 14 years and look at our gas prices!

first of all, it will create more than 3,000,000 jobs, that alone is a good reason to open up more wells on public land and coastline...we need jobs desperately.  It would create more need for cement, steel, engineering services and laborers...THAT is just as important as lowering the cost.  And, common sense still dictates, the more open and aggressive the oil market is, the price WILL come down.  Until our competitors understands we ARE moving forward, they control the pumps. Obama's energy policies has failed.  He has given money to solar companies, and they market is not yet there, and they went bankrupt. 

When Obama supports the theory of "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe" ...that does not send a signal to other oil producing nations we are serious threat at their supply.

[The Troll]

first of all, it will create more than 3,000,000 jobs, that alone is a good reason to open up more wells on public land and coastline...we need jobs desperately.  It would create more need for cement, steel, engineering services and laborers...THAT is just as important as lowering the cost.  And, common sense still dictates, the more open and aggressive the oil market is, the price WILL come down.  Until our competitors understands we ARE moving forward, they control the pumps. Obama's energy policies has failed.  He has given money to solar companies, and they market is not yet there, and they went bankrupt. 

When Obama supports the theory of "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe" ...that does not send a signal to other oil producing nations we are serious threat at their supply.

  Hawk you don't know shit about the predatory American oil companies.  Saudi Arabia has a just complete oil field out in the desert.  Bigger than the one they have now.  Do you honestly believe that the little bit of oil that America produces is going to lower the price of gasoline when the price of oil is set by the world market.   

  Since America is a Capitalist county, the oil companies can ship their oil and gasoline (really our oil) anywhere in the world they want.  The oil companies own the Republican Party and everybody in it.   

  Oh, all of those job you talk of.  The oil business is one of the most automated business in the world.  It cost one dollar a barrel to pump our oil from the ground.  All of these oil platforms are automated.  I use to fish under the oil rigs and all you would see is two or three men operating them.  I think your 3 Million oil jobs is total bullshit.

  If you Republican want jobs, why didn't you pass the jobs bill where we would rebuild America.  No, your Republican Party didn't.  Why?  OUR MAIN JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT OBAMA IS A ONE TERM PRESIDENT.  I do say that your Republican have made a good try, especially by buying the Supreme Court.   

[me]

Has the Tea Party sold out?

"There's always purists in any movement who think that anything less than perfect is a sellout," said Matt Kibbe of FreedomWorks, based in Washington. "But that's not how the American system works."

So let me get this straight...when you're doing everything you can to obstruct a non-white president, even to the detriment of the country, it's because that's what your supporters want but you can kowtow to a white Republican because compromise is, "how the American system works." 

Anyone still want to attempt to make the ridiculous argument that these people are anything other than blatant racist asshats?

You already know what I think on the subject.  Not everyone who is against Obama is a racist and you know it.  That is simply a Dem talking point meant to try to bully people into voting for him and it just ain't gonna work so give it up.

[Exterminator]

Not everyone who is against Obama is a racist and you know it.

No they aren't but you are!  Your postings here prove your sense of racial superiority and your obvious bias.

Denial of racism is the new racism.

[me]

No they aren't but you are!  Your postings here prove your sense of racial superiority and your obvious bias.

Denial of racism is the new racism.

What postings prove anything of the sort?  The only people I see on here that keep pointing out that he's black are the accusers which means they are making him different which is racist.  According to you all no one has a legit reason to disagree with his policies which is not right because if it were then there would be no reason for an election and if you can't see that I don't know what to tell you.  Ya'll need to quit pulling the race card out and open your eyes.

[Henry Hawk]

Why?  OUR MAIN JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT OBAMA IS A ONE TERM PRESIDENT. 

Okay, I am sick and tired of this "excuse".......nothing is any different than when Bush was in office, the dems wanted more than anything to make Bush and "one-term" president.  They failed. 
They tried it with Reagan, but Reagan was smart enough to convince democrats and their constituents to support his bill.  Obama started the division with his arrogant remark, that "those who created the mess to get out of the way, I will clean up after them, they can watch, but stay out of the way"  snickering and chuckling while he said it.

and you can bet your bottom dollar if Romney is elected, they will want to make him a one-term potus.  To say likewise it just stupid.

[Palehorse]

Never said we didn't have offshore drilling....we just need to allow more of it, with stronger saftey measures.

As Ex so aptly stated already, we've already seen what that gets us; and the fact that remediation measures have not progressed in the 30 years since it happened before Deepwater Horizon doesn't exactly provide me with any level of comfort surrounding big oils capability or willingness to "do the right things" for our environment over profit.

With Isaac running rough-shod over the Gulf, had we allowed more offshore drilling what would the ecological and economical ramifications be to US citizens? (More cost per gallon and an environmental disaster on top of that. Besides, they're withdrawing the United States 2% share of the entire oil reserves on the planet at historic levels already, and pulling the timeline in where the US will be at the world's mercy surrounding petroleum products. How fast do you want to get there?

Soon, if the conservative faction gets things their way, we'll draw the last barrel underneath our nation, then what will we do? Go to war to take over an oil rich nation?

If democracy rules the day, we will invest in alternative energy and identify the next power source for the common man, freeing this country from the chains of fossil fuels.

Seems like an easy choice to anyone with critical thinking skills.

[Henry Hawk]

Soon, if the conservative faction gets things their way, we'll draw the last barrel underneath our nation, then what will we do? Go to war to take over an oil rich nation?

If democracy rules the day, we will invest in alternative energy and identify the next power source for the common man, freeing this country from the chains of fossil fuels.

Seems like an easy choice to anyone with critical thinking skills.

Well, a critical thinking person would know that, until another solution is needed and profitable, it won't happen.  I think we are very close to making that next step, but until then, we should utilize our own resources, and quit being dependent upon potentially hostile sellers.

That is exactly why GM suspended Chevy Volts productions....there are not enough people who want it.

When a technology becomes effecient and profitable it will sell.......

http://www.redwoodsystems.com/company

This is an excellent point on this subject...this company is going to be huge.  It is a great step in green technology.

[Palehorse]

Well, a critical thinking person would know that, until another solution is needed and profitable, it won't happen.  I think we are very close to making that next step, but until then, we should utilize our own resources, and quit being dependent upon potentially hostile sellers.

. . .

That is the plan A conservative approach to everything, wait until it is needed. Only problem is if we wait until you guys suck up the last barrel of oil, it will then be too late for the decades of research and development necessary to refine whatever is going to be the next power source.

By then, we'll be a third world country.

[Henry Hawk]

That is the plan A conservative approach to everything, wait until it is needed. Only problem is if we wait until you guys suck up the last barrel of oil, it will then be too late for the decades of research and development necessary to refine whatever is going to be the next power source.

By then, we'll be a third world country.

and that is liberal approach to everything...SCARE TACTICS!

If the repubs get elected african americans will be back in chains....

If the repubs get elected old people will lose medicare....

There will be a "war on women" if repubs are elected...

If you really think republicans WANT to be a third world country and are not smart enough to advance ourselves, then I see no need to conduct a logical debate any further...it just shows you love the propaganda being spewed.

[Exterminator]

first of all, it will create more than 3,000,000 jobs, that alone is a good reason to open up more wells on public land and coastline...we need jobs desperately.  It would create more need for cement, steel, engineering services and laborers...THAT is just as important as lowering the cost.  And, common sense still dictates, the more open and aggressive the oil market is, the price WILL come down.  Until our competitors understands we ARE moving forward, they control the pumps. Obama's energy policies has failed.  He has given money to solar companies, and they market is not yet there, and they went bankrupt. 

When Obama supports the theory of "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe" ...that does not send a signal to other oil producing nations we are serious threat at their supply.

WTF are you talking about?  What will produce 3,000 jobs?  Which part of we are currently producing more oil in this country (much of it on federal land) are you having trouble grasping?

[Palehorse]

and that is liberal approach to everything...SCARE TACTICS!

If the repubs get elected african americans will be back in chains....

If the repubs get elected old people will lose medicare....

There will be a "war on women" if repubs are elected...

If you really think republicans WANT to be a third world country and are not smart enough to advance ourselves, then I see no need to conduct a logical debate any further...it just shows you love the propaganda being spewed.

This oil scenario is not scare tactics, but actual scientific fact that I and others have posted here for several years now. The information is out there so do a little research. Or if you like you can review my postings and read it and get the links yourself.

I don't think republicans want to make us a third world country. I know they are the greediest sons of bitches walking the grounds of this nation right now. Their record proves it, and their actions validate it.

One 20 month stretch of unemployment will force you into the light of truth. For your sake I hope the republicans aren't in control should that happen to you or anyone you love.

[Henry Hawk]

WTF are you talking about?  What will produce 3,000 jobs?  Which part of we are currently producing more oil in this country (much of it on federal land) are you having trouble grasping?

3 million not 3 thousand..........perhaps if you would listen to Romney/Ryan speak instead of listening to the huffington post, you would understand what it is I am talking about.

[Palehorse]

Here's a start for you:

. . .

There are presently 1,426 ON shore rotary drilling rigs in operation within the US as of April 2010 - of the 1,816 total active rigs. Of these 508 currently target crude oil only, with the balance drilling for oil and gas.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=E_ERTRR0_XR0_RUSON_C&f=M

Alaskan oil fields accounted for 20,030 (thousand of barrels) in the month of April this year, with the entire lower 48 producing 288,060 (thousands of barrels) during the same month.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_crdsnd_k_m.htm

The US owns less than 2% of the proven oil reserves in the entire world, and accelerating the removal of that oil from the earth will do nothing except move the date we are screwed forward in time, leaving our children and their children to deal with the fact we (in general) are too greedy and ignorant to have considered alternative energy sources and implemented them before we depleted our oil reserves.  If production averages continue to increase as they are currently averaging, US oil reserves will be depleted ( according to some estimates from within the industry itself) within the next 8 to 12 years. Then what?

. . .

That was over two years ago. Since production levels have increased substantially in those two years I am betting that 8 - 12 years is now more like 7 - 11. . .

So how confident are you that technology is capable of identifying, developing, and validating the next power source for the common man within the next 10 years if they start NOW?