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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

Started by The Troll, May 24, 2010, 09:03:16 AM

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Quote from: followsthewolf on June 21, 2011, 01:15:09 PM
And, of course, it wouldn't occur to you that these claims indicate pervasive discrimination throughout the Wal-Mart chain, and that it would seem to indicate VERY strongly that it emanates down from the top with a wink-wink attitude among the good ol' boys on top.

SCOTUS (screw us) just kept it from even being heard to determine if it had merit.

Now corporations can squash all kinds of discrimination lawsuits one by one, since no one has the resources to fight a giant like Wal-Mart.

Additionally, you don't think people should have unions to help.

What a piece of work.
The point is not all of them do discriminate and there were probably that fair share of women who just filed because they were approached by someone who suggested it to them and they hadn't been discriminated against in actuality.  You know how that is and I'm sure you have received those things in the mail that says "so and so has filed a class action suit against such and such company", and you can be part of it even if you never bought the product, worked at that particular place, or had anything what so ever to do with whatever the suit is about.  In most cases all you have to do is not reply and you are part of the suit. It's a way for attorney's to make money.
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on June 21, 2011, 02:49:16 PM
You know how that is and I'm sure you have received those things in the mail that says "so and so has filed a class action suit against such and such company", and you can be part of it even if you never bought the product, worked at that particular place, or had anything what so ever to do with whatever the suit is about.  In most cases all you have to do is not reply and you are part of the suit. It's a way for attorney's to make money.

Uh, yeah, not the way it works.  You receive the mailings because you are identified as someone who might be part of the class but you have to prove that you are to be included.  Not just anyone can jump onto any class-action lawsuit.  At least you're consistent with your absolute lack of knowledge about how anything works.  Is this the part where you tell the rest of us to wake up?  LOL...
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on June 21, 2011, 03:16:44 PM
Uh, yeah, not the way it works.  You receive the mailings because you are identified as someone who might be part of the class but you have to prove that you are to be included.  Not just anyone can jump onto any class-action lawsuit.  At least you're consistent with your absolute lack of knowledge about how anything works.  Is this the part where you tell the rest of us to wake up?  LOL...
I've received some that asked you to prove nothing but to ignore it if you think you might have a claim and you are automatically included so yes, certain ones you can.   :razz:  Those attorney's could care less one way or the other the bottom line is the more people they get to be part of the suit the more money they can ask for and the more they make if they win.  The people who are part of the suit get next to nothing. 
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  Lawyers are a needed thing anymore.  Especieally when the small people who are being screwed by big corporations.  Walmart, GE and all of the women discriminators have hundreds of shark lawyers to stick it to the little people.

  How some halfassed people who hardly have two cents to rub together act like the're rich wants to defend these predatory corporations who don't give a damn about anyone but themselves have to be crazy as a loon.  :jester:    (  *  )   (  X  ).

Exterminator

Quote from: me on June 21, 2011, 03:30:45 PM
I've received some that asked you to prove nothing but to ignore it if you think you might have a claim and you are automatically included so yes, certain ones you can.   :razz:  Those attorney's could care less one way or the other the bottom line is the more people they get to be part of the suit the more money they can ask for and the more they make if they win.  The people who are part of the suit get next to nothing.

Well I've received emails telling me that I won a sweepstakes I never entered either but that doesn't make it real.  I'm betting you can't provide a single court/case number from a legitimate class-action lawsuit in which you don't have to have some involvement to get paid because (here comes the hint for you clueless people) there are none.  No such thing; companies aren't going to simply fork over money to random people for nothing and judges aren't going to approve settlements to people who weren't involved.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: me on June 21, 2011, 12:21:35 PM
No, that isn't the case.  This was a suit by women from different stores in different states and since each store is managed differently the cases could not be handled in this manner because each case could not be looked at on an individual basis and some could have been bogus claims.  Would it be fair to Wal-Mart or any other place of business to not be able to defend themselves against bogus claims?  If these claims had been generated from one store or even stores in the same area it would different.

Quote from: followsthewolf on June 21, 2011, 01:15:09 PM
And, of course, it wouldn't occur to you that these claims indicate pervasive discrimination throughout the Wal-Mart chain, and that it would seem to indicate VERY strongly that it emanates down from the top with a wink-wink attitude among the good ol' boys on top.

SCOTUS (screw us) just kept it from even being heard to determine if it had merit.

Now corporations can squash all kinds of discrimination lawsuits one by one, since no one has the resources to fight a giant like Wal-Mart.

Additionally, you don't think people should have unions to help.

What a piece of work.

^---------- What FTW said and a hearty cry of "bullshit" for emphasis.

That company is now one of, (if not THE), largest employer(s) in this country today. They have several phalanxes of corporate lawyers on retainer and in their employment. It costs them nothing more to deploy them toward delaying the hell out of lawsuits like this one, in order to bankrupt those they do wrong with their corporate policies that are mandated down to each store and it's leadership.

Corporate is JUST as guilty as those who may have done the deeds.

I hope an ACLU attorney takes up the cause and files suit against Walmart for every single one of these women; ONE AT A TIME! (Pro Bono) Once the courts begin seeing the true "merit" these women included in the class action suit and their individual cases carry, they will deeply regret not allowing this suit to move forward. Their calendars will be filled with suits against Walmart from now until the next century turns.

This is NOTHING more than the SCOTUS pandering to the soulless/faceless corporate entities in this country. That you fail to see it only assures your future victimization . . .
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The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on June 21, 2011, 08:47:18 PM
^---------- What FTW said and a hearty cry of "bullshit" for emphasis.

That company is now one of, (if not THE), largest employer(s) in this country today. They have several phalanxes of corporate lawyers on retainer and in their employment. It costs them nothing more to deploy them toward delaying the hell out of lawsuits like this one, in order to bankrupt those they do wrong with their corporate policies that are mandated down to each store and it's leadership.

Corporate is JUST as guilty as those who may have done the deeds.

I hope an ACLU attorney takes up the cause and files suit against Walmart for every single one of these women; ONE AT A TIME! (Pro Bono) Once the courts begin seeing the true "merit" these women included in the class action suit and their individual cases carry, they will deeply regret not allowing this suit to move forward. Their calendars will be filled with suits against Walmart from now until the next century turns.

This is NOTHING more than the SCOTUS pandering to the soulless/faceless corporate entities in this country. That you fail to see it only assures your future victimization . . .

  As two talk show on MSNBC have said in the past two day.  The Supreme Court has more or less said that Walmart is to large of a corporation to sue.  They have to  much money and power to mistreat their employees any way they want to.  The court has ruled that each employee must face Walmart one on one.  Fat chance.   :yes:

  The decisions of the Supreme Court has proven that 5 of the 9 Supreme Court judges are in the pocket of the super strong and rich corporations.  Clarence Thomas and his wife have excepted thousands and thousands of dollars, trips, vacations, gifts and many other things from rich think tanks, millionairs and corporations and have vote for they in cases that have come before the court.  Thomas will not recluse himself in these case.  Any Federal judge would be impeached from office it they did the same thing.  Republican Party have bought the American Supreme Court with the money provided by the predatory capitalist corporations. 

  The American have been sold out by these thieves and fraud artist.  If we don't stop this we are a doomed country and we be come a dictatorship of the corporate world.  I don't think any of our Teaparty Republican worshipers would want that to happen.  :4th2:

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Quote from: Exterminator on June 21, 2011, 06:43:58 PM
Well I've received emails telling me that I won a sweepstakes I never entered either but that doesn't make it real.  I'm betting you can't provide a single court/case number from a legitimate class-action lawsuit in which you don't have to have some involvement to get paid because (here comes the hint for you clueless people) there are none.  No such thing; companies aren't going to simply fork over money to random people for nothing and judges aren't going to approve settlements to people who weren't involved.
Class action lawsuits cannot be handled on an individual basis which is why the Wal-Mart one was dismissed.  It involved many different women from different states and stores.  I got a whole $13 from a class action suit brought against a company for overcharging for CD's purchased during certain years and I didn't have to prove I even bought one CD let alone in those years.  I did happen to purchase several but how many of the people involved didn't?  Like I said you don't have to do anything if you want to be involved in the lawsuit you just sit and wait to see if anything comes of it. 
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The Troll

Quote from: me on June 22, 2011, 03:11:19 AM
Class action lawsuits cannot be handled on an individual basis which is why the Wal-Mart one was dismissed.  It involved many different women from different states and stores.  I got a whole $13 from a class action suit brought against a company for overcharging for CD's purchased during certain years and I didn't have to prove I even bought one CD let alone in those years.  I did happen to purchase several but how many of the people involved didn't?  Like I said you don't have to do anything if you want to be involved in the lawsuit you just sit and wait to see if anything comes of it.

  Why did you take it?  Why didn't you sent it back, the company probably needed it?  It would have been the right thing to do.  You cheated that poor company out of $13 that you didn't deserve plus many more shopper.  I would call that stealing.  How would you like if every person here on the Zone took an undeserved $13 out of your pocket.  I guess you would call it immoral and out and out theft. :pray: :rolleyes: :razz:

Exterminator

Thanks for proving my point, me.  You and everyone else involved in that class-action suit were customers of the company that was overcharging for CD's.  Whether or not you were overcharged for the specific CD's you bought is irrelevant and virtually impossible to determine, ergo, you got part of the settlement.  Someone who was not a customer of that company during the time in question could not have joined that class-action because there is no way they could possibly have been overcharged.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Exterminator on June 22, 2011, 08:36:40 AM
Thanks for proving my point, me.  You and everyone else involved in that class-action suit were customers of the company that was overcharging for CD's.  Whether or not you were overcharged for the specific CD's you bought is irrelevant and virtually impossible to determine, ergo, you got part of the settlement.  Someone who was not a customer of that company during the time in question could not have joined that class-action because there is no way they could possibly have been overcharged.

  What you call yourself, "ME" :me:  :me: :me: :me: :me: :me: :me: :me: :me: :me: :me: sums you up pretty well.  "ME"

  :music1:  Me, me me :music1:  I'm in love with Me, me me. :music1: Screw you, you, you, :music1: I'm in love wirh Me, Me Meeee :music1: :me: :me: :me: :rolleyes: :razz:

  I got to give you credit, you sure picked the right name for yourself, ME.  Sweetie Poo :kiss:
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Quote from: Exterminator on June 22, 2011, 08:36:40 AM
Thanks for proving my point, me.  You and everyone else involved in that class-action suit were customers of the company that was overcharging for CD's.  Whether or not you were overcharged for the specific CD's you bought is irrelevant and virtually impossible to determine, ergo, you got part of the settlement.  Someone who was not a customer of that company during the time in question could not have joined that class-action because there is no way they could possibly have been overcharged.
You just aren't getting it are you?  How often do you give your name when you purchase a CD with cash?  The attorney's who filed the case proved the company overcharged but the case was presented as a whole not on an individual basis and the more people they represented in the suit the more they could ask for as a settlement.  I happened to be on that particular mailing list so I got included in the suit and was not asked for proof that I had ever even purchased a CD let alone one from that company.  I would have been included in the suit if I had never purchased a CD. 

How do you think a lot of the people in that class action suit against Wal-Mart even found out about it? 
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on June 22, 2011, 10:13:04 AM
You just aren't getting it are you?  How often do you give your name when you purchase a CD with cash?  I happened to be on that particular mailing list so I got included in the suit and was not asked for proof that I had ever even purchased a CD let alone one from that company.

So you're on the mailing list of people who purchased a CD for cash?

Yes, I am getting it.  I'm getting that you don't understand how the process works and rather than just say that and be done with it, you'll resort to fabricating some scenario that bolsters your otherwise untenable claims.  It isn't like we haven't seen this from you before...
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on June 22, 2011, 11:01:08 AM
So you're on the mailing list of people who purchased a CD for cash?

Yes, I am getting it.  I'm getting that you don't understand how the process works and rather than just say that and be done with it, you'll resort to fabricating some scenario that bolsters your otherwise untenable claims.  It isn't like we haven't seen this from you before...
It's called mailing lists which are available through different sources for a price and lots of businesses use them.  Now do I have to explain to you how mailing lists are obtained by the people selling them? 
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Exterminator

Wow...you really are dumber than you look.  Again, please provide the court and case number of the class-action into which just anyone can waltz.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.