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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

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The Troll

Quote from: Nighthawk on April 08, 2011, 03:59:52 PM
hmmm.... From a Democrat:

"Ramona Kitzinger, the Democratic member of the county board of canvass, defended the process. She agreed with Nickolaus that the board "went over everything and made sure that all the numbers jibed up, and they did."

"I'm the Democratic vice chair of Waukesha County, so I'm not going to stand here and tell you something that's not true," Kitzinger said."

  But dear Mr. Squawk.  Remember how you want to blame Obama for this depression.  He has only two years to turn around the huge pile of shit George W. Bush left.  Or do you really remember that we had George W. for 8 long, long years and that you voted for him twice.

  The head of this half ass election board is a dumbass Republican.   :biggrin:  Along with a heart, why don't you grow a brain.  :biggrin:



Henry Hawk

Troll, it has been five years since the dems have had controll to SAVE this Country, like they said they was going to do....It has gotten worse....MUCH WORSE!...and it only appears to possibly get better IF, we (the right) force control of the freaking spending!!

Gas is nearly $4 bucks a gallon....
Unemployment is STILL near 10%...
We are still in TWO wars, with a third one brewing...
We still have gitmo...
We are still dependent on foreign oil...
Inflation is beginning to rocket...
Our dollar is worth nearly nothing to the free world...

George Bush has been gone for over 2 years and has not been able to do anything for over five years....

YOU got to come up with a new one pally..... ;D  ...


I don't think we cannot survive four more years of hope and change....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Nighthawk

Quote from: The Troll on April 08, 2011, 04:10:52 PM
  But dear Mr. Squawk.  Remember how you want to blame Obama for this depression.  He has only two years to turn around the huge pile of shit George W. Bush left.  Or do you really remember that we had George W. for 8 long, long years and that you voted for him twice.

  The head of this half ass election board is a dumbass Republican.   :biggrin:  Along with a heart, why don't you grow a brain.  :biggrin:

Would it still be a "Half assed election board" if the dem had won or do you only call it that because someone found a mistake that turned the election in a direction you personally don't like?

And how much has been added to the national debt since Obama took office??

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: me on April 08, 2011, 02:39:18 PM
Why won't the dems agree with the pay for the military to continue until this is straightened out like the Republicans have asked?  Why did Obama say he would refuse to sign anything that contained that stipulation?

What? I don't think you know what's going on. He didn't say that he wouldn't sign a bill because it benefits the military. He said that he won't sign another band aid. I don't blame him. They've had 6 months to get the budget done. The fact he told them that he wouldn't sign another band aid is being twisted.

The truth is that a critical deadline is approaching and Boehner would rather see our government SHUT DOWN than allow women access to cancer screenings, birth control, and prenatal care. It's a political game and women are his pawns.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Nighthawk

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 08, 2011, 04:58:25 PM
What? I don't think you know what's going on. He didn't say that he wouldn't sign a bill because it benefits the military. He said that he won't sign another band aid. I don't blame him. They've had 6 months to get the budget done. The fact he told them that he wouldn't sign another band aid is being twisted.

The truth is that a critical deadline is approaching and Boehner would rather see our government SHUT DOWN than allow women access to cancer screenings, birth control, and prenatal care. It's a political game and women are his pawns.

You forgot to mention that the funds that DO NOT go to planned parenthood would go to other organizations to provide those services.

Palehorse

Wonder how much ALL of you will squall when you realize your tax check isn't coming anytime soon, once they shut down???

Think they'll add "penalties and interest" to the amount they owe you??  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I don't blame republicans, nor democrats, nor the POTUS for this. . . I blame them ALL!

This damn stalling and political posturing on BOTH sides has driven this. And who do you think it is going to hurt? Congress? NO. . .  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Just demonstrates how much they really care about the "people". . . You can bet your ass if this was going to negatively impact big business they'd be all over it like stink on shit. . .  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Sandy Eggo

Quote from: Nighthawk on April 08, 2011, 05:47:31 PM
You forgot to mention that the funds that DO NOT go to planned parenthood would go to other organizations to provide those services.

Such as?

Why do you think there was a need for Planned Parenthood to begin with? Has that need diminished? Hardly.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 08, 2011, 04:24:27 PM
Troll, it has been five years since the dems have had controll to SAVE this Country, like they said they was going to do....It has gotten worse....MUCH WORSE!...and it only appears to possibly get better IF, we (the right) force control of the freaking spending!!

Gas is nearly $4 bucks a gallon....
Unemployment is STILL near 10%...
We are still in TWO wars, with a third one brewing...
We still have gitmo...
We are still dependent on foreign oil...
Inflation is beginning to rocket...
Our dollar is worth nearly nothing to the free world...

George Bush has been gone for over 2 years and has not been able to do anything for over five years....

YOU got to come up with a new one pally..... ;D  ...


I don't think we cannot survive four more years of hope and change....

  Henry, Henry just where is your memory.  You don't remember the $4.55 a gallon gasoline George W.  had in California.

  How does Obama control the price of oil.  With the Republicans letting the 4 major oil companies buy out of they many we use to have and the billions of dollars we give the oil companies.  Also did you forget about OPEC.  The Arab oil cartell.

   Henry please tell us how you would end the two wars George W. caused?  Please tell us.  How would you handle the no fly zone in Libya. Huh.

  George W. couldn't get anything for 5 years while he was president?  You got to be kidding me.  He never turned down any bill the Republicans wanted.  Give me a break.  What a memory.  :wall:  There is a disease or occurrences call the fog of war, since I know you haven't been to war.  It must be brain damage.   :biggrin:

  Unemployment is at 8%.  But you forgot again that we lost thousands of manufacturing factories here in America under your God, George W.  Damn I still think you out your mind voting for George W. twice.  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :science: :koolaid:



Nighthawk

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 08, 2011, 05:53:55 PM
Such as?

Why do you think there was a need for Planned Parenthood to begin with? Has that need diminished? Hardly.

And I suppose that you are OK with underage girls going to these planned parenthood and being advised to lie about their ages to get an abortion without parental consent? Or the cover up of statutory rape? Or aiding human sex trafficking? Or condoning underage prostitution?

look at these numbers of what planned parenthood accomplished 2009:
Adoption referrals: 977
Prenatal clients cared for: 7021
Abortion performed: 332,278

They also made $1.1 Billion last year. That's a lot for a non-profit.

The funding that is taken from planned parenthood could go to hospitals, women's health centers and clinics to provide the services to low income families.

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: Nighthawk on April 08, 2011, 06:38:39 PM
And I suppose that you are OK with underage girls going to these planned parenthood and being advised to lie about their ages to get an abortion without parental consent? Or the cover up of statutory rape? Or aiding human sex trafficking? Or condoning underage prostitution?

look at these numbers of what planned parenthood accomplished 2009:
Adoption referrals: 977
Prenatal clients cared for: 7021
Abortion performed: 332,278

They also made $1.1 Billion last year. That's a lot for a non-profit.

The funding that is taken from planned parenthood could go to hospitals, women's health centers and clinics to provide the services to low income families.

I'm okay with a woman geting the specialized healthcare and/or counseling and/or education she needs regardless of age or occupation. Could other clinics and hospitals offer the same services? Perhaps, but they don't. That's why there is a need. The Planned Parenthood program offers comprhensive reproductive healthcare services putting the woman's well being first.

I'd really like to see your sources re: human trafficking and condoning protitution.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Nighthawk

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 08, 2011, 07:41:34 PM
I'm okay with a woman geting the specialized healthcare and/or counseling and/or education she needs regardless of age or occupation. Could other clinics and hospitals offer the same services? Perhaps, but they don't. That's why there is a need. The Planned Parenthood program offers comprhensive reproductive healthcare services putting the woman's well being first.

I'd really like to see your sources re: human trafficking and condoning protitution.

Source:

http://liveaction.org/press/press-releases

Watch the videos linked on that page. The videos of ACORN are nothing compared to this.

Sandy Eggo

Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

The Troll

Quote from: Nighthawk on April 08, 2011, 06:38:39 PM
And I suppose that you are OK with underage girls going to these planned parenthood and being advised to lie about their ages to get an abortion without parental consent? Or the cover up of statutory rape? Or aiding human sex trafficking? Or condoning underage prostitution?

look at these numbers of what planned parenthood accomplished 2009:
Adoption referrals: 977
Prenatal clients cared for: 7021
Abortion performed: 332,278

They also made $1.1 Billion last year. That's a lot for a non-profit.

The funding that is taken from planned parenthood could go to hospitals, women's health centers and clinics to provide the services to low income families.

  Ever since you came on the Zone I had figured for some kind of a nut and every time you write a post more or less proves I'm right.

  Do 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 ;year old girls get knocked upped.  Single girls who have religious nuts for parents who would throw out the girl or make her carry a baby she don't want.  I just don't know where you are coming from and you know damn well that the government don't pay for abortions.

  The Acorn tape was false from the start.  Set up by a Republican Asshole who ran out before the police came.  You didn't say that Acorn had called the police on the phony Pimp and his teenage whore.  Another forgotten item in a Teabagger's warped mind.

  I'm sure hope you don't run you nerdy business like you like to stick your pointy nose in some Else's business.  you are suppose to be a businessman, you should know what nonprofit means.  It means you take no profit, you put it back in the business.   Hell, years ago 3 friends and I bought an airplane.  We formed a nonprofit corporation.  Owning an airplane it isn't hard to put all of your money (profit) back in to the plane, hanger and insurance.  For the first couple of years, in my plumbing contractors business,  I took the profit and put it in a truck and tools.  You could say I ran a nonprofit business.

  Tell me one thing Pal, what you do if your daughter got knocked up by a HIV Positive crack addict.  Would put her through the agony of carrying that unwanted baby that came out brown or black and would you help her raise it, send it to school and college until she got back on her feet.  Come on Pal give me a answer.

  Your one of those people I call a check writer.  A person who writes checks with their mouth, their ass can't cash.   :yes: :biggrin:

Nighthawk

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 08, 2011, 08:48:55 PM

I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I should have said "creditable" sources. It doesn't strike you as even a little bit odd that the only source for any of this anti-planned parenthood material is agenda driven pro-life sites?

To me it did:

http://healthland.time.com/2011/02/03/what-did-the-planned-parenthood-sting-really-accomplish/

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/activists-targeting-planned-parenthood-release-undercover-video/story?id=12831614

http://www.newshounds.us/2011/02/05/laura_ingraham_touts_fiction_as_fact_in_attacking_planned_parenthood_with_lila_roses_hoax_video_.php

If the tapes are somehow faked, misleading or otherwise wrong then why were most if not all the people in the tapes fired?

From your own 'healthland' link:

"The behavior we saw in the videotape was egregious and repugnant," said Planned Parenthood spokesman Stuart Schear, adding that it was "completely inexplicable and inconsistent with what Planned Parenthood does." and the woman in the tape from the NJ clinic was fired

It also seems that states have cut off funding for planned parenthood because of these tapes.

Palehorse

Quote from: Nighthawk on April 08, 2011, 06:38:39 PM
And I suppose that you are OK with underage girls going to these planned parenthood and being advised to lie about their ages to get an abortion without parental consent? Or the cover up of statutory rape? Or aiding human sex trafficking? Or condoning underage prostitution?

look at these numbers of what planned parenthood accomplished 2009:
Adoption referrals: 977
Prenatal clients cared for: 7021
Abortion performed: 332,278

They also made $1.1 Billion last year. That's a lot for a non-profit.

The funding that is taken from planned parenthood could go to hospitals, women's health centers and clinics to provide the services to low income families.

Once upon a time I thought you may have been in possession of brain cells that you actually were capable of utilizing; but each time you begin spewing propaganda that is clearly nefarious at best, and outright lies in many cases, you erode any level of credibility that thought may have brought you.

In Indiana, about 22,000 Hoosiers rely on federal family planning and Medicaid funding for preventive care at Planned Parenthood health centers; such as Pap tests, breast exams, birth control and STD testing and treatment. 

Treatments and testing that they cannot obtain otherwise because they are unable to afford healthcare insurance through no fault of their own.

The rider regarding Planned Parenthood proposed in Congress would bar Planned Parenthood from receiving Medicaid and federal family planning dollars that pay for direct patient care.  Not a penny of the money goes toward abortion. This is mandated by federal law. 

A little personal initiative in researching the truth and obtaining the facts, instead of blindly parroting the propaganda of entities with hidden agendas, would serve you better. . .

I can tell you for a FACT, those numbers in your quote surrounding pre-natal care, and adoption services, are EXCEEDED just within Indiana alone! Factor in diagnostic testing and other women's health procedures, (including std/HIV testing), and it blows those quoted stats right out of the water!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville