Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

[Palehorse]

Loughn


Beck

Propagandist and Parishioner ?

You make the call. . .

[Palehorse]

And now here's a big surprise! 

Congress now wants to increase security for themselves in the wake of the AZ incident. . .

So how are they going to pay for that?  You want it, then YOU pay for it!

I say hell no! You men and women of congress have been spewing hate and fear for months on end now. When are you going to realize that if you spread those bitter seeds the harvest will come to you? I say, shut the hell up with the hate and fear, and get busy doing what needs to be done! Yah bastards! 

[Anne]

Yeah. . . rigggggght! I know better. . . There is no hiding it. . .

I stand corrected, he is not dead, he is now pc, eats eggplant along with the sometimes food cookies.

[Anne]

That has to be one of the creepiest mug shots I have ever seen.

[me]

Do you see anything in this that would even remotely connect Palin or the Tea Party to this?  Of course the Daily Kos would be blameless even though they also "targeted" her in 2008 wouldn't they?  It is a political BS game pure and simple and this guy is just a nut job period.  This is somewhat lengthy but take the time to go down through it, I did.  Also try to look up some of it and see what has been scrubbed.  The left has been pretty busy  for sure.  Now they're scrubbing the caches even.  Must be nice to have the Soros money behind you. 

http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/08/my-congresswoman-voted-against-nancy-pelosi-and-is-now-dead-to-me-eerie-daily-kos-hit-piece-on-gabrielle-giffords-just-two-days-before-assassination-attempt-on-her/

[Palehorse]

[The Troll]

  Change of subject, some good news.

  The Velvet Hammer gets the slammer.  The disgraced Republican House leader Tom De Lay has been senticed to 3 years in prison for money laundering. 

  Long over do for this crook.  Justice does sometimes work.   


                                                                                     

[Palehorse]

Accused Arizona gunman Jared Lee Loughner was not registered to any political party, and in fact hand wrote "independent" on two separate voter forms, county officials said Monday. . .


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/10/accused-gunman-had-no-party-affiliation/?hpt=T2

[Palehorse]

  Change of subject, some good news.

  The Velvet Hammer gets the slammer.  The disgraced Republican House leader Tom De Lay has been senticed to 3 years in prison for money laundering. 

  Long over do for this crook.  Justice does sometimes work.   


                                                                                     

He's out on bail pending appeal. . . Which could take quite some time as we all know. . .

[The Troll]

He's out on bail pending appeal. . . Which could take quite some time as we all know. . .

  Yea I know and I hope the appeal goes on and on and on.   I don't care if he misses jail time.  I want him to be a felon and broke and in debt to the lawyers.  I don't think the Velvet Hammer will ever have a hammer again.  Good riddance.

[Exterminator]

and how much violence was induced? NONE! ZERO! ZILCH!

The shooting of 20 people over the weekend for those of you who find it difficult to form obvious associations.

[Exterminator]

Do you see anything in this that would even remotely connect Palin or the Tea Party to this?

No more than I would see anything remotely connecting a puddle of melted ice cream on the sidewalk to the cone laying in the middle of it. 

[Palehorse]

http://studentactivism.net/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords/

    Representative Gabrielle Giffords on Violent Political Rhetoric, March 2010

    January 8, 2011 in Students

    "Are you afraid? Are you fearful today?"

    "You know, I'm not. We've had hundreds and hundreds of protesters over the course of the last several months. Our office corner has really become an area where the Tea Party movement congregates. And the rhetoric is incredibly heated. Not just the calls, but the emails, the slurs. So things have really gotten spun up. But you gotta think about it. Our democracy is a light, a beacon really around the world, because we effect change at the ballot box, and not because of these outbursts — of violence in certain cases, and the yelling, and it's just ... you know, change is important, it's a part of our process, but it's really important that we focus on the fact that we have a democratic process."

    "I think it's important for all leaders, not just leaders of the Republican Party or the Democratic Party ... community leaders, figures in our community to say, 'Look, we can't stand for this.' I mean, this is a situation where people really need to realize that the rhetoric, and firing people up, and even things ... For example, we're on Sarah Palin's targeted list, but the thing is, the way she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gunsight over our district. And when people do that, they've gotta realize there's consequences to that action."

    "In the years that some of my colleagues have served, twenty, thirty years, they've never seen it like this. We have to work out our problems by negotiating, working together, hopefully Democrats and Republicans."

    –Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, March 25, 2010.

And now she is paying the price for the very rhetoric of which she spoke months ago. . .

[Palehorse]

This summarizes my feelings on the subject of the AZ incident quite nicely! 

http://www.winningprogressive.org/tag/sarah-palin

Thoughts on the Arizona Shooting
Monday, January 10th, 2011

Along with most everyone else in the country, we here at Winning Progressive have been glued to the news about the horrible shooting in Tucson, Arizona that led to the death of federal judge John Roll, a nine year old girl, and four adults, and that has left Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) in critical condition.  We have been extremely saddened the entire weekend by the shootings, our thoughts go out to the victims and their families, and we hope that Rep. Giffords and the other people who were injured will continue recovering.

We have had a number of thoughts about the incident, a few of which we will share here:     

* Honor the Heroes – The word "hero" is often overused in our society, as many people are labelled heroes simply for going through a hard event or illness that they had no choice but to experience.  But there are also many heroes – i.e., people who selflessly choose to put themselves in harms way in order to help others – who our society too often overlooks.  At least six people were heroes in Tucson on Sunday, and we should recognize them for their heroic actions.

* The first is Daniel Hernandez, a 20-year-old intern for Rep. Giffords who, upon hearing gunshots, ran toward the Congresswoman to make sure she was okay.  Mr. Hernandez is credited with hopefully saving Rep. Giffords' life, as he worked to stem her bleeding and to make sure she could still breathe despite all of the blood until paramedics could arrive.

* The second is Dorwan Stoddard who, unfortunately, did not survive the shooting.  Upon hearing gunfire, he immediately shielded his wife, who survived as a result.

* The other four are Patricia Maisch, Bill Badger, Roger Salzgeber, and Joseph Zamudio, who tackled and subdued Loughner while he was trying to reload his gun.  Maisch, who had just watched the person in line in front of her get shot twice, managed to keep Loughner from getting a second ammunition clip from out of his pocket.

* Tone Down the Rhetoric: As has been widely pointed out, Sunday's killings occurred in an atmosphere of increasingly violent political rhetoric over the past two years.   More and more, folks in political campaigns have been talking about being "armed and dangerous," "targeting enemies," "reloading," "eliminating" the opposition, using "Second Amendment remedies," and other language that is highly problematic for at least two reasons.

First, it can push unstable people over the edge.  Certainly, the vast majority of people who hear violent rhetoric or see violent imagery targeted at a politician are not going to act upon it.  However, someone who is already mentally unstable may simply snap after receiving a steady diet of such rhetoric.  We don't know yet exactly what motivated Jared Loughner to commit such atrocities in Tucson, but violent political rhetoric is bound to make events like those this past Sunday more likely.

Second, violent rhetoric and imagery are inimical to democratic government.  A fundamental point of democratic government is to establish the societal structures needed to settle disputes peacefully, rather than having disagreements devolve into violence.  Basing our political dialogue on violence undermines those structures and makes it harder for a democratic system to deliver on its promise of a more peaceful society.

* Don't Buy Into the Idea of False Equivalency:  There is no doubt that both sides have used rhetoric that went over the line from time to time.  For example, President Obama's joking statement at a 2008 fundraiser in Philadelphia about Democrats bringing a gun to a knife fight was incredibly stupid and should have been withdrawn.  All of us need to work on toning down the rhetoric and learn to take a deep breath before responding in anger to people of different political persuasions.

But there are some critical differences between a handful of comments that should not have been made by Democrats, and the violent rhetoric that has made up a growing portion of right wing political strategy over the past few years.  In particular, the violent rhetoric on the right has been especially egregious and dangerous for three reasons. 

First, such rhetoric has accompanied a deliberate effort by many conservatives to paint President Obama and the Democrats who support him as dangerous outsiders who are un-American.  Too many conservatives have insinuated that President Obama is a Kenyan, Muslim Manchurian candidate who is allegedly a Socialist, Nazi, and Fascist all at the same time.  In short, too many conservatives haven't just strenuously objected to President Obama's policies – they have treated him and his policies as those belonging to an enemy of our nation.

Second, the violent rhetoric from some conservatives has often been targeted at specific politicians, like Rep. Giffords, Nancy Pelosi, or Harry Reid.  Obviously, such targeted vitriol is much more dangerous than statements that are just aimed at the opposing political party in general.

Third, the violent rhetoric is coming not just from some lone crazies or fringe characters on the far right who have little to do with the Republican party. Instead, major elected officials and leaders in the Republican party have been echoing such violent rhetoric or, at least accepting it with a wink and a nod.  For example, here is a slide from a power point presentation that Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) included a recent presentation he gave urging his fellow Republicans to make him chair of a committee in Congress:

This is not the rhetoric that a member of either political party should be using about the President of the United States.

* Sarah Palin is a Truely Reprehensible Person: Winning Progressive has a rule against mentioning Sarah Palin at this blog because we find her to be an illegitimate know-nothing who gets far too much coverage from the conservative media and from fellow progressives.  We are briefly suspending that rule, however, because we are so disgusted by how Ms. Palin has responded to the shooting of Rep. Giffords and the other victims in Tucson that we feel we must comment.   

Ms. Palin's violent rhetoric and imagery - such as map with 20 Democratic congressional districts, including Rep. Giffords', with gunsights over them - is well known. What amazes us is the pitifulness of Ms. Palin's response to the killings in Arizona. In the 36 hours so far since the shooting, Ms. Palin has only managed to issue a two sentence statement on her Facebook page, in which she sent her "sincere condolences" and prayers to the victims of the "tragic" shootings.  Ms. Palin did not disavow the shooter or the shooting, call for a toning down of violent political rhetoric, or express any regret for the violent rhetoric she had engaged in against Rep. Giffords and other Democrats.  It is truly a disgusting and repulsive performance by Ms. Palin.

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In summary, we certainly agree that conservatives cannot be directly blamed for the horrendous acts that Jared Lee Loughner committed on Sunday. But there can be little reasonable dispute that creating an atmosphere of violent rhetoric aimed at one side of a political debate makes it far more likely that some unhinged individual is going to act on such rhetoric in ways that have horrible consequences. It would be good for us all to keep that in mind and remember that, while vigorous debate is critical to a well-functioning democracy, violent rhetoric is inimical to it.

[The Troll]

   You got to give the Republican credit for sticking together.  They are out on every TV station, cable and satellite station saying they are not responsible for anything.

  One of the big fat ass Republican senators want a bill to keep guns 1000 ft from any congress and president.  Now do you honestly think this would have stopped this nut from doing all of this killing?  No!

  What's that old saying?  What goes around comes around.  All you have to do is "Reload" and "Keep the people in Minnesota armed and dangerous.