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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on November 29, 2010, 01:57:05 PM
Well, all fed employees (civilian) will not be getting a raise for the next 2 years.

And I have read where many of the republican leadership are pushing for the tax cuts for the wealthy be made permanent!

although I think it is a start, that is only a scratch of what needs to be cut.....how many private jobs did not get raises in the last few years....I think these cuts SHOULD be there until it can be proved that raising them will not effect the economy in a negative manner.
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Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 29, 2010, 02:38:48 PM
although I think it is a start, that is only a scratch of what needs to be cut.....how many private jobs did not get raises in the last few years....I think these cuts SHOULD be there until it can be proved that raising them will not effect the economy in a negative manner.

Well, lets see. . . that amounts to basic economics. Civilian employees are an integral part of that economy. If they don't have the money to spend they won't be spending it. Just like the rest of us. . .
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on November 29, 2010, 02:40:40 PM
Well, lets see. . . that amounts to basic economics. Civilian employees are an integral part of that economy. If they don't have the money to spend they won't be spending it. Just like the rest of us. . .

are YOU serious, so take MORE money from the private to pay for the federal?......THAT should be the other way around.....get the private sector fixed first, that is the way it is supposed to work.  This country was built on the private sector NOT the other way around.....we need to CUT federal workers, and turn those jobs into the private.  The Federal Government is NOT a business....The folks running it are politicians NOT businessmen..
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 29, 2010, 02:47:31 PM
are YOU serious, so take MORE money from the private to pay for the federal?......THAT should be the other way around.....get the private sector fixed first, that is the way it is supposed to work.  This country was built on the private sector NOT the other way around.....we need to CUT federal workers, and turn those jobs into the private.  The Federal Government is NOT a business....The folks running it are politicians NOT businessmen..

The businessman is an endangered species in this country! They all live in third world countries now!

I don't disagree that the freeze is necessary Hank, but it is an example of the bullshit "small potatoes" this congress is intent upon implementing and it does nothing but hurt the working class, restrict the working class, and assure the rich keep riding high on the hog. . .

Don't worry, congress is intent upon removing the tax deduction for health insurance from employers, who will pass along the costs to the employees, increasing the cost of healthcare even more. . . And they'll be cutting off unemployment to at least 2 million people this month so there's some more savings. . . And the whole time refuse to recognize the fact that those things are going to have a huge domino affect upon the economy as those negatively impacted begin to lose their homes, and find themselves with an increasingly shrinking discretionary spending fund. . .
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Sandy Eggo

How much would we save if congress had a pay freeze? Interesting that they never crunch those numbers. Of course the care about the country :rolleyes:
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 29, 2010, 03:24:07 PM
How much would we save if congress had a pay freeze? Interesting that they never crunch those numbers. Of course the care about the country :rolleyes:

THIS is Obama's suggestion.....ask him.

I say a freeze would be a minumum........I say it is time to start doing away with federal agencies, and hire the private sector to do these jobs........they are more effecient and productive...and cheaper.  the federal workers get paid more than their private counterparts....http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-08-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 29, 2010, 04:06:36 PM
THIS is Obama's suggestion.....ask him.

I say a freeze would be a minumum........I say it is time to start doing away with federal agencies, and hire the private sector to do these jobs........they are more effecient and productive...and cheaper.  the federal workers get paid more than their private counterparts....http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-08-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm

Yeah, and that point was so characterized by the State of Indiana's effort to privatize the welfare system. . .  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I never said it wasn't Obama's suggestion. What I said is congress will slap that one right through and add to it as much bullshit as they can.
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May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on November 29, 2010, 04:10:31 PM
What I said is congress will slap that one right through and add to it as much bullshit as they can.

It NEEDS to be slapped through, but the BS attached will be by the democrats.....watch and see...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 29, 2010, 04:46:04 PM
It NEEDS to be slapped through, but the BS attached will be by the democrats.....watch and see...

There's enough blame on both sides of the aisle for that bullshit.

Yeah that unemployment extension needs to SLAPPED through, but watch how they stall and let the least of us suffer further indignation because it has zero impact upon them personally! The fuckers!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on November 29, 2010, 04:47:57 PM
There's enough blame on both sides of the aisle for that bullshit.

Yeah that unemployment extension needs to SLAPPED through, but watch how they stall and let the least of us suffer further indignation because it has zero impact upon them personally! The fuckers!

I say the unemployment extension DOES get slapped through.......and soon.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 29, 2010, 04:52:26 PM
I say the unemployment extension DOES get slapped through.......and soon.

  If it does pass it will because three or four Republicans will fall on their swords.  The other 98% of the Republicans will stick to their mean ways of saying no.  The Republican Party is EVIL.  :devil29:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on November 29, 2010, 06:55:26 PM
  If it does pass it will because three or four Republicans will fall on their swords.  The other 98% of the Republicans will stick to their mean ways of saying no.  The Republican Party is EVIL.  :devil29:

the only thing the republicans want is a way to pay for it.........like give up some of the pork that was attached to the trillion dollar stimulus that was passed a year and half ago....but, the dems don't want to do that.....I say the evil is still in controll of the senate.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 29, 2010, 04:52:26 PM
I say the unemployment extension DOES get slapped through.......and soon.

No. . . it won't. . . And locally work one is telling those receiving unemployment compensation via a federal extension, that their funds will expire December 12th regardless of what tier they are in, and regardless of whether there are funds remaining within the current tier they are in or not, unelss congress passes another extension. . .  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Then there is this:

The nation's workers may be struggling, but American companies just had their best quarter ever.

The New York Times. . .

American businesses earned profits at an annual rate of $1.659 trillion in the third quarter, according to a Commerce Department report released Tuesday. That is the highest figure recorded since the government began keeping track over 60 years ago, at least in nominal or noninflation-adjusted terms.
. . .

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/24/business/economy/24econ.html?_r=1
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

is it really too much to actually have a plan to pay for this?................all dems have to do is take it out of the TRILLION $$ stimulus........that is exactly what the repub lawmakers are asking for........the dems want to continue to spend money without a plan on how it is going to be accounted for.

the ball is in their court.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 30, 2010, 04:19:51 PM
is it really too much to actually have a plan to pay for this?................all dems have to do is take it out of the TRILLION $$ stimulus........that is exactly what the repub lawmakers are asking for........the dems want to continue to spend money without a plan on how it is going to be accounted for.

the ball is in their court.

Is this REALLY the time to change the practice????? They've traditionally passed extensions without funding them for over 30 years, but when it is needed the most they decide to change the practice???? When it is the most needed they decide its time to change things???? WTF is wrong with you people?

This should be a no brainer, but instead it has become a political lever that is victimizing MILLIONS of americans at the worst possible time of year!

That's okay though. . . fuck them and their families, and to hell with the fact that those millions of families are going to lose their homes, and perhaps their lives over this . . . :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

And to top it all off industry posts the highest level of pure profit in the past 60 years?????  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville