Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

[The Troll]

  Trying to over talk me still can't hide the truth.  Please tell how I am wrong about not having 6o votes and why I can't say the truth, that your Republican Party is trying to destrory Obama at the expense of destroying this country.  Every bit of what is say it true.

[me]

Troll if you guy's can't see what's going on by standing back and taking a look at the obvious then nothing I can say is going to do any good. You are being snowed pure and simple by pie in the sky promises and a smooth talker.  Your hatred has caused you to become totally ignorant of your surroundings.

[The Troll]

Troll if you guy's can't see what's going on by standing back and taking a look at the obvious then nothing I can say is going to do any good. You are being snowed pure and simple by pie in the sky promises and a smooth talker.  Your hatred has caused you to become totally ignorant of your surroundings.

  I didn't get to be 72 years old and have what I got being stupid and have some smooth talker con me.  I can sense bull shit a block away, my hair stand up, on the back of my neck.  And most of the times when I read your posts, the hair stand straight up at attention.

   At one time I was a Democratic Precinct Committeeman.  The Republican back then were smart and Conservative and knew how to act like human beings.  But your New Republican Party are mean spirited, greedy, self centered and worship at the alter of the super rich and the predatory Capitalist and their corporation.

   Just look how you defended BP when the spill first happened.  Saying it was a shake down and un-American to want them to pay for cleaning up their mess.  No matter how much the banks and the stockmarket steal from the government and it's people you twins stand up for them.

  Then your asshole Republican walk in lock step destroying America.  I never thought this country could get in such bad shape as it did under 8 years under George W. Bush and his Republican cooks.  I still can't believe it, you Republican did so easy and quickly.  Your thieves are surely smart.

  I can see real clear who the crooks are, I can see who the thieve are and I see what the Republican Party actually is.  Your the one who is blind as a bat.   

[me]

  I didn't get to be 72 years old and have what I got being stupid and have some smooth talker con me.  I can sense bull shit a block away, my hair stand up, on the back of my neck.  And most of the times when I read your posts, the hair stand straight up at attention.

   At one time I was a Democratic Precinct Committeeman.  The Republican back then were smart and Conservative and knew how to act like human beings.  But your New Republican Party are mean spirited, greedy, self centered and worship at the alter of the super rich and the predatory Capitalist and their corporation.

   Just look how you defended BP when the spill first happened.  Saying it was a shake down and un-American to want them to pay for cleaning up their mess.  No matter how much the banks and the stockmarket steal from the government and it's people you twins stand up for them.

  Then your asshole Republican walk in lock step destroying America.  I never thought this country could get in such bad shape as it did under 8 years under George W. Bush and his Republican cooks.  I still can't believe it, you Republican did so easy and quickly.  Your thieves are surely smart.

  I can see real clear who the crooks are, I can see who the thieve are and I see what the Republican Party actually is.  Your the one who is blind as a bat.   

And I say again, your hatred has caused you to become totally ignorant of your surroundings.  What you said here just proves that.

[LOsborne]

Troll if you guy's can't see what's going on by standing back and taking a look at the obvious then nothing I can say is going to do any good. You are being snowed pure and simple by pie in the sky promises and a smooth talker.  Your hatred has caused you to become totally ignorant of your surroundings.

That doesn't address his request to explain his error. So I'll ask again for him. Exactly how does one party "control" the Senate with less than the 60 votes needed for cloture?

You two have a lot of fun hurling grade school insults at each other, and I'm all for fun. But accusing each other of unreasonable hatred does nothing but cement pre-conceived notions that have no factual basis. Kinda like accusing Bill Clinton of trying to sell the country to Iran, when all documented evidence shows no one tried harder to bring Iran to its knees financially.

When are y'all gonna start hollering, "I'm rubber, you're glue....?" me says "take a look at the obvious." Pretend I'm blind. Exactly what it so obvious? Tell me without using indefinite pronouns, or buzz-words like "pie in the sky."

[me]

That doesn't address his request to explain his error. So I'll ask again for him. Exactly how does one party "control" the Senate with less than the 60 votes needed for cloture?

You two have a lot of fun hurling grade school insults at each other, and I'm all for fun. But accusing each other of unreasonable hatred does nothing but cement pre-conceived notions that have no factual basis. Kinda like accusing Bill Clinton of trying to sell the country to Iran, when all documented evidence shows no one tried harder to bring Iran to its knees financially.

When are y'all gonna start hollering, "I'm rubber, you're glue....?" me says "take a look at the obvious." Pretend I'm blind. Exactly what it so obvious? Tell me without using indefinite pronouns, or buzz-words like "pie in the sky."

Both Sandy and Troll have already done that.  Real adult of them I thought.   

We can no longer disagree with policy without being called a racist or worse, Obama wants to stifle any and all criticism of his agendas, (Fox News, Limbaugh, the Teaparty, social networking groups, bloggers, etc.) congress also wants to run privately owned financial institutions now, student loans are being doled out by the government now, Obama is tied in with SEIU up to his eyeballs, unemployment is over 10% and climbing, congress is being bribed for votes, things are being voted on in the middle of the night behind closed doors...............

[The Troll]

Both Sandy and Troll have already done that.  Real adult of them I thought.   

We can no longer disagree with policy without being called a racist or worse, Obama wants to stifle any and all criticism of his agendas, (Fox News, Limbaugh, the Teaparty, social networking groups, bloggers, etc.) congress also wants to run privately owned financial institutions now, student loans are being doled out by the government now, Obama is tied in with SEIU up to his eyeballs, unemployment is over 10% and climbing, congress is being bribed for votes, things are being voted on in the middle of the night behind closed doors...............

  I see no stiffling of The Republican Party and its supporters.  I have never heard so many references to Hitler, the Nazi Party, Commist Party, other than on the Military and the History channel,  other than what's coming from the mouths of the Republicans.  If any one who should be stiffled would be that lying sons of a bitches Glen Beck and Rush limbaugh.  Everything that comes out of these Pecker Necks are lies.  I don't think that making an out and out lie of "our air waves" and can be proven to be lies is covered by freedom of speech.

  As far a the government to let some private company make a profit off of taxpayer money, giving student loans with our money is totally wrong.  Take that interest money and pay us back and make more loans to the students.  It make sense.  DA.

[me]

  I see no stiffling of The Republican Party and its supporters.  I have never heard so many references to Hitler, the Nazi Party, Commist Party, other than on the Military and the History channel,  other than what's coming from the mouths of the Republicans.  If any one who should be stiffled would be that lying sons of a bitches Glen Beck and Rush limbaugh.  Everything that comes out of these Pecker Necks are lies.  I don't think that making an out and out lie of "our air waves" and can be proven to be lies is covered by freedom of speech.

  As far a the government to let some private company make a profit off of taxpayer money, giving student loans with our money is totally wrong.  Take that interest money and pay us back and make more loans to the students.  It make sense.  DA.

Bet you didn't watch Beck on Fri when he talked about black american patriots did ya?  It wasreal, true history taken from original text books and he had an historian on the show.  Ever heard of William Nell?  There were black patriots even the blacks don't know about because they have been erased from history just like they're trying to do with people and events now.   A week ago Fri it was the founding fathers.  When he does a show he has actual proof, documentation,  of what he is saying and has invited people on his show to prove him wrong, no one has spoken up.  What you read in the newer text books and rewritten books is the revised history.  Beck is more or less teaching history and connecting dots he isn't trying to make a political statement.  He is not just anti Obama or anti democrat he will blast the republicans just as quick or any other political party that has or does exist. 

I have heard O'Reilley stick up for Obama so many times I'm beginning to think he voted for him but you'll never hear about from anyone of the people you watch or listen to because they're too far into trying to please the administration with only positive stories.  How many times did you hear Bush complain about the stuff that was being said about him?  I mean look at the Dixie Chicks, Rosie O., Michael Moore, and all those idiots.  Can you imagine if they were doing this administration that way?  All hell would break loose for sure.

So you would rather the government give our tax money to the students who may default than to let private individuals give them the money and make a profit?  That doesn't even make sense.  Which is less, 97% of some loans that may default or 100% of all loans with some who may default but pay it back by working for the government? 

[The Troll]

Bet you didn't watch Beck on Fri when he talked about black american patriots did ya?  It wasreal, true history taken from original text books and he had an historian on the show

So you would rather the government give our tax money to the students who may default than to let private individuals give them the money and make a profit?  That doesn't even make sense.  Which is less, 97% of some loans that may default or 100% of all loans with some who may default but pay it back by working for the government?

  Please read your last paragraph again.  This is brain death in writting and thinking.  Who said anything about giving students money.  It's the same Student Loan Program, but we have taken the middle man out of it.  Same laws, same interest, and same pay back rules and the same thing, student loans cannot defaulted on except Death.  Did you just read, nothing has been changed, except the middle man has been taken out.  There some things that the students can do to reduce the debt is to work out in rural areas and other bad places like the intercity where they need teachers and doctors.  But give it to them, NO, NO, NO!   "ME" get a brain.

  No I do not watch Glen Beck, I have tried, but he make me sick to the stomach.    How anyone with one ounce brain could set down and watch the rotten son of a bitch.

[me]

  Please read your last paragraph again.  This is brain death in writting and thinking.  Who said anything about giving students money.  It's the same Student Loan Program, but we have taken the middle man out of it.  Same laws, same interest, and same pay back rules and the same thing, student loans cannot defaulted on except Death.  Did you just read, nothing has been changed, except the middle man has been taken out.  There some things that the students can do to reduce the debt is to work out in rural areas and other bad places like the intercity where they need teachers and doctors.  But give it to them, NO, NO, NO!   "ME" get a brain.

  No I do not watch Glen Beck, I have tried, but he make me sick to the stomach.    How anyone with one ounce brain could set down and watch the rotten son of a bitch.

How Will The Student Loan Bill Affect Students?

March 23, 2010
The US House of Representatives approved the student loan and health care reform legislation on Sunday night, March 21, 2010, by a vote of 220 to 211. No Republicans voted in favor of the legislation. The US Senate is expected to pass the legislation within about a week.
The student loan bill will end the federally-guaranteed student loan program, where banks and financial institutions make federal education loans that are guaranteed against default by the US Department of Education. Instead, all new loans starting July 1, 2010 will be made through the Direct Loan program, where the funding comes directly from the federal government.
The Congressional Budget Office estimated that a mandatory switch to the Direct Loan program will save almost $68 billion over ten years. The savings are partly due to the federal government having a lower cost of funds than private lenders and partly due to eliminating the middleman. Of the total savings, $40 billion will be used to close a funding gap in the Pell Grant program and to slightly increase the maximum Pell Grant, $21 billion will go to deficit reduction, $1.5 billion will fund improvements in the income-based repayment plan and the rest will fund other priorities.
Current students will not notice much of a difference because of the legislation.
The Direct Loan program offers the same Stafford, PLUS and Consolidation loans as the federally-guaranteed student loan program. There are some slight differences in the PLUS loan program. The DirectPLUS loan has a lower interest rate, 7.9% instead of 8.5%, and thePLUS loan approval rate is much higher in the Direct Loan program. Students will obtain their loans from the college financial aid office instead of having to find a lender. But otherwise the loans are nearly identical in the two loan programs.
The increases in the maximum Pell Grant are anemic. The maximum award in 2010-11 will be $5,550 and will remain unchanged in 2011-12 and 2012-13. The Pell Grant will then be increased at the Consumer Price Index inflation rate for five years through 2017-18, after which it will have no further increases. The maximum Pell Grant will be about $5,900 in 2019-2020, about $1,000 less than in President Obama's original proposal. The $350 increase over the ten year period is about the same as a typical annual increase. Not only does this fail to keep pace with tuition inflation, but the maximum grant will decrease on a constant dollar basis. On average it increases the maximum Pell Grant at an annualized rate of 0.75% less than the Consumer Price Index.
The legislation implements President Obama's FY2011 proposal for improving the income-based repayment plan. Monthly payments will drop by one third, from 15% of discretionary income to 10% of discretionary income, and the loan forgiveness will be accelerated from 25 years to 20 years. Public service loan forgiveness will remain at 10 years. However, the implementation of the change is delayed, with the improved repayment plan only available to new borrowers of new loans on or after July 1, 2014. The change is not retroactive, so current borrowers will not benefit.
The legislation drops several provisions that were in the version originally passed by the House in September 2009. It does not include the proposal to expand the Perkins loan program nor the proposal to eliminate about a page worth of questions from the Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA). In particular, the proposal to eliminate all of the asset questions from the FAFSA was not included in the final legislation.
A more technical discussion of the student loan provisions of the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 legislation can be found on the FinAid site.
http://www.fastweb.com/financial-aid/articles/2177-how-will-the-student-loan-bill-affect-students

[Anne]

  Sweetheart, you seem to have forgotten the Republican Party and the it's President sold arms and weapons of mass destruction to Iraq then they were fighting Iran.  The same chemical weapons Saddam use to gas and kill the Kurds.

  In fact your Dick Chaney shook Saddam's hand and said what a wonder person he was.  Remember.

  Lady and I'm using that lightly, Bill didn't sell America to Iran, you're talking as usual.

  You talk about me wanting Chaney dead, crippled with a stroke in a wheel chair and no money would be alright with me.  He doesn't have many friends.  But what you said about Bill Clinton is the dirtiest and low piece of shit I have ever heard come out of a woman mouth.  I really can't think of anything lower than whale shit on the bottom of the deepest part or our seas.  As much as I dislike Dick Cheney I would never say something like this about him.

   When you said you wouldn't trust him around his daughter, what a bitch thing to say about a man who never did one thing to or against  you.  You wouldn't trust him with his daughter, damn what an asshole remark.

  The other day Bill and Chelsy was on TV and the way she looked at him, you could tell she really love him. and he love her and NOT in a dirty and nasty way, like you, like to think.  Where you molested when you were a small child.  You talk like someone who was.

  As you can see I have thought about what you said for a long time and burns my ass how LOW some "Woman" can go, just to get even for some supposed happening to someone else.


  When I first started answering your post, I thought you were a nice lady.  But after reading several of them you are a right wing ding bat.  Talking to you is a waste of energy.

  At least have a good day, bashing some other good, supporting father. 

Show me where I said anything resembling your accusations. You are lying.

[The Troll]

  It's plain a simple, if your a private company or bank and loan a student money to go to school, there on federal insurance.  It will be just like any other loan, with no collateral.  If you want a federal loan to go to school you have to apply to the government.  It's simple.  We just take the middleman out of it.  The private companies will not make any money off of government (taxpayer) money at no risk to them.  This is great.           

[Bo D]

  It's plain a simple, if your a private company or bank and loan a student money to go to school, there on federal insurance.  It will be just like any other loan, with no collateral.  If you want a federal loan to go to school you have to apply to the government.  It's simple.  We just take the middleman out of it.  The private companies will not make any money off of government (taxpayer) money at no risk to them.  This is great.           

It gets even better .....

"The Congressional Budget Office estimated that a mandatory switch to the Direct Loan program will save almost $68 billion over ten years. The savings are partly due to the federal government having a lower cost of funds than private lenders and partly due to eliminating the middleman. Of the total savings, $40 billion will be used to close a funding gap in the Pell Grant program and to slightly increase the maximum Pell Grant, $21 billion will go to deficit reduction, $1.5 billion will fund improvements in the income-based repayment plan and the rest will fund other priorities.
Current students will not notice much of a difference because of the legislation."

[The Troll]

Show me where I said anything resembling your accusations. You are lying.

  Sorry, not Dick Chaney.  It was Dondald Rumsfield, Special Envoy for Ronald Reagan December 20th, 1983.  That shook hands with Saddam.   Other than that

[The Troll]

It gets even better .....

"The Congressional Budget Office estimated that a mandatory switch to the Direct Loan program will save almost $68 billion over ten years. The savings are partly due to the federal government having a lower cost of funds than private lenders and partly due to eliminating the middleman. Of the total savings, $40 billion will be used to close a funding gap in the Pell Grant program and to slightly increase the maximum Pell Grant, $21 billion will go to deficit reduction, $1.5 billion will fund improvements in the income-based repayment plan and the rest will fund other priorities.
Current students will not notice much of a difference because of the legislation."

  Thank you Olias, those little gems are so appreacieted.  Aaaa, pennies from heaven.  Troll