Should the US Continue Off Shore Drilling Despite The Spill?

[LOsborne]

Um, those links are CNN and MSNBC  not Fox.

Yes, they were. But the CNN link says only that China and India are making plans to drill off the coast of Cuba, and the MSNBC link says that Crist (Independent) and Meeks (Dem) candidates for Senate oppose further drilling in the Gulf, while Rubio (Rep) is all in favor of it.

What's your point? For that matter, what was Henry's point?

[me]

I have no clue I didn't even read the links just pointed out to Troll that they weren't Fox links.

[LOsborne]

I hear ya, me. I used to belong to a "junto" group. We discussed volatile issues following the rules laid out by Franklin. At least we always knew what the point was.

[The Troll]

Um, those links are CNN and MSNBC  not Fox.

  Who in hell said said I was talking about a Fox links.  I was stating that I have watched O'Reiley, Hannity and Glen Beck .  Also the assholes on the morning show.  These three people are the most stupid dumbasses, old Rupert could hire.

  How anybody who was born with a brain, can't see their lies and their Republican bias.

[me]

  Who in hell said said I was talking about a Fox links.  I was stating that I have watched O'Reiley, Hannity and Glen Beck .  Also the assholes on the morning show.  These three people are the most stupid dumbasses, old Rupert could hire.

  How anybody who was born with a brain, can't see their lies and their Republican bias.

Hum, Beck don't like Republicans either so what's yer point?  I've also seen O'Reilley rake Republicans over the coals and stand up for Democrats.  I'll bet you hung on every word they said on Air America while it lasted didn't ya?

[The Troll]

Hum, Beck don't like Republicans either so what's yer point?  I've also seen O'Reilley rake Republicans over the coals and stand up for Democrats.  I'll bet you hung on every word they said on Air America while it lasted didn't ya?

  "ME", I have had about every toy a man could want.  Airplanes, even built my own gyrocoter, boats, motorcycles, fast and beautiful cars everything but a million dollars in cash.  But one thing I never owned was a satellite radio.  If I did, it most like likely be tuned to Air America and not to the Drugster Limpaw, head.

  "ME", it seem to me that you are alway trying to present yourself as a very intelligent, strong woman with a circle of smart friends.  But how in hell can you say that you watch and respect Glen Beck.  This Nazi loving sonovabitch is absolutely brain dead and you hang on his every word?  With Rush, Bill, Shane and Glen, no wonder your brain is fried.  Do you do Drugs.

  Oh, an other thing, "ME" your aways crying about the way the Democrats beat up poor George W., well for one thing it is easy.  He is and was a dumbass and he will die a dumbass. 

  But what about the slim job you guys did on Kerry.  I have seen people do some pretty shitty things, but your Republican created a masterpiece of a hack job on Kerry.  Your asshole party seen to think we're stupid enough to forget the asscutting you Republican are so expert giving and doing.  You people sure are experts in smoke and mirrors, bait and switch.

  So the next time you want to cry about us cutting your King of Dumbass George W.  just remember the ass cutting you gave us, cause we haven't forgot and we are just starting to get even.  Just starting.

The Troll 

[me]

Oh boy, John Kerry the great. He would have probably holed up in his Swiss Chalet when 9/11 occurred.   

[The Troll]

Oh boy, John Kerry the great. He would have probably holed up in his Swiss Chalet when 9/11 occurred.   

  Some day,  I knew I would see "ME" on the funny page of the THB newspaper.  Well it happen to day. 

  If you don't believe me look at the Herald Bulletin.  Look for Garfield and you will see "ME".


                                                                              

[Locutus]

Spill baby!  Spill!

This is disgusting and unbelievable.  Check out this video from BP showing the oil gushing from the hole in the bottom of the sea.

[Palehorse]

Spill baby!  Spill!

This is disgusting and unbelievable.  Check out this video from BP showing the oil gushing from the hole in the bottom of the sea.


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Yes it is! 

NBC had a report on this morning wherein an expert on fluid measurement is saying the actual amount flowing out of it may be twice what BP is stating it is; meaning this spill has already surpassed the Exxon Valdez debacle if this is true! 

[Palehorse]

Make that a lot more that twice! I just heard him say 70,000 barrels a DAY! 

2,940,000 gallons a day

[Palehorse]

. . .BP officials have said 5,000 barrels per day of crude, or 210,000 gallons, have been leaking for the past three weeks.

But a researcher at Purdue University has predicted that about 70,000 barrels of oil per day are gushing into the Gulf after analyzing videos of the spill.

Associate professor Steve Wereley said he arrived at that number after spending two hours Thursday analyzing video of a spill using a technique called particle image velocimetry. He said there is a 20 percent margin of error, which means between 56,000 and 84,000 barrels could be leaking daily.
"You can't say with precision, but you can see there's definitely more coming out of that pipe than people thought. It's definitely not 5,000 barrels a day," Wereley said.
He said he reached his estimate of 70,000 barrels per day by calculating how far and how fast oil particles were moving in the video. . .

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/14/gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T1

[Palehorse]

. . .BP officials have said 5,000 barrels per day of crude, or 210,000 gallons, have been leaking for the past three weeks.

But a researcher at Purdue University has predicted that about 70,000 barrels of oil per day are gushing into the Gulf after analyzing videos of the spill.

Associate professor Steve Wereley said he arrived at that number after spending two hours Thursday analyzing video of a spill using a technique called particle image velocimetry. He said there is a 20 percent margin of error, which means between 56,000 and 84,000 barrels could be leaking daily.
"You can't say with precision, but you can see there's definitely more coming out of that pipe than people thought. It's definitely not 5,000 barrels a day," Wereley said.
He said he reached his estimate of 70,000 barrels per day by calculating how far and how fast oil particles were moving in the video. . .

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/14/gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T1

From the same article. . .

. . .BP has blamed drilling contractor Transocean Ltd., which owned the rig. Transocean says BP was responsible for the wellhead's design and that oilfield services contractor Halliburton was responsible for cementing the well shut once drilled. And Halliburton says its workers were just following BP's orders, but that Transocean was responsible for maintaining the rig's blowout preventer.

Duck season! No, wabbit season! Duck season! Wabbit season. . .

[The Troll]

Yes it is! 

NBC had a report on this morning wherein an expert on fluid measurement is saying the actual amount flowing out of it may be twice what BP is stating it is; meaning this spill has already surpassed the Exxon Valdez debacle if this is true! 

  Yes, this is another "Charlie Foxtrot", Cluster F*#k.  Taking big government out of businesses, business.  Letting the "market" take care of business.  Dropping regulation and controls because they can police themselves and the "market" will punish the wrong doers.

  How can anyone believe that you can believe anything that comes out of the mouth of Predatory Capitalist CEO's and other "Adventure Capitalist" when it comes to making money.  They worship the dollar and will do anything, lie, cheat, swindle, corrupt, bribe, steal anything to make money, for themselves.  The stockholders are secondary.

  Now, steps in BP, British Petroleum, an English owned company, drilling in America's Gulf of Mexico for oil to ship to China.

  Lying to the America's government from the start.  Taking a WAFG, a wild ass f*#king guess and drilling in 5000 feet of water.  Had no experience.  lying about the safety measures they were taking.  Lying about the Blow Out Preventer, an a absolute piece of shit.   Halliburton lying and falsifying the cementing of the well pipe.

  Who knows, they might get the pipe stopped up, but the oil might come up and around the pipe because the cement will fail.  All lies and now they don't want to pay for the Charlie Foxtrot.  Who knows, maybe the government will have to take one of our smallest nuclear bombs and place is next to the well pipe about a 1000 feet below the bottom and set it off and crush the whole damn thing closed.

  When are the American people, especially the free trading Republicans, predator capitalist loving SOB's going to realize that you just can't trust them.  People, for them, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.

  People we are like the people in the movie "Ground hogs day", every day repeating the stupid things.  We are in the shape were in today because of GREED, JUST PLAIN GREED.

  Of all of the "isms" Capitalism is probably the best, so far it is.  We can't just let these Predatory Capitalist run free, without regulations.  History will repeat it's self again and the next time we won't be able to stop an total Hoover Depression.

[me]

Ya, I want to be like Greece and China and let the government do everything and have cradle to grave entitlements.....   China would never allow such a thing to happen and those type accidents would definitely be prevented.  Yesssssss