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Quote from: The Troll on August 17, 2012, 09:12:42 AM
   Everything that comes out of "ME" and the Hawk mouth is from the Republican Talking Points.

  What I would like to hear from their mouths is what the twins have against Obama.  What has Obama done to "ME" and the Hawk and how he has harmed them.  If they could come up with some legitimate thing to criticize Obama for.  Something that he did that was wrong.  Some one thing that he slipped by the Republican House of Representives that has damaged this county. 

  Something that has happen to this country was bad and was not cause by the Republican Party and dumb ass and clown George W. Bush.   :yes:

  Tho they won't admit it is,  "ME" and the Hawk's  main problem with Obama is that he is black and that he's a Democrat and nothing else.  :zoners:
And everything you come up with isn't a Dem talking point?  BS it's right out of the play book like your last sentence.  That's what you are told to say and say it you do because you can't discuss issues.  If that were the only reason there would be no need for an election because Obama has all the answers and no other opinion would count.  That just ain't the way it works Troll.  Oh, and for the record once again.  Obama is not black he is mixed.
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on August 16, 2012, 09:16:24 PM
How ObamaCare Guts Medicare

We should add this tripe to the TUZ Lie Tracker.

Since the Romney-Ryan campaign is hammering the Obama-Biden ticket on the Affordable Care Act's $716 billion in cuts to Medicare, it seems useful to put this figure in context and explain exactly what programs within Medicare lose funding under the health care law.

First, the context. The Congressional Budget Office estimates Medicare spending over the next 10 years will be about $7.5 trillion. This means the ACA's Medicare cuts account for less than 10% of overall Medicare spending. The program is not being gutted. Even with the ACA cuts, the CBO says the cost of Medicare is expected to grow from about $500 billion in 2012 to nearly $900 billion by 2022.

As for the cuts, they come from eliminating a massive subsidy to private insurers and gradually reducing the rate of growth in payments to some providers. These changes, while not catastrophic for Medicare, are important. Under the ACA, the federal government will substantially reduce the amount it spends funding Medicare Advantage, which is privately administered insurance offered to Medicare beneficiaries. About one-quarter of Medicare recipients are enrolled in private Medicare Advantage. In theory, these plans are supposed to manage health care spending better than fee-for-service Medicare. But they don't actually save the federal government any money. They cost, per patient, 14% more than traditional Medicare. (See Figure 3 of this fact sheet from the Kaiser Family Foundation. And see here for more.) The ACA eliminates this subsidy and pegs Medicare Advantage payments to quality metrics.

The second bunch of money that gets cut from Medicare under Obamacare comes from providers. Hospitals, home health agencies and others will see Medicare payments grow more slowly than they have in the past.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on August 17, 2012, 09:50:02 AM
We should add this tripe to the TUZ Lie Tracker.

Since the Romney-Ryan campaign is hammering the Obama-Biden ticket on the Affordable Care Act's $716 billion in cuts to Medicare, it seems useful to put this figure in context and explain exactly what programs within Medicare lose funding under the health care law.

First, the context. The Congressional Budget Office estimates Medicare spending over the next 10 years will be about $7.5 trillion. This means the ACA's Medicare cuts account for less than 10% of overall Medicare spending. The program is not being gutted. Even with the ACA cuts, the CBO says the cost of Medicare is expected to grow from about $500 billion in 2012 to nearly $900 billion by 2022.

As for the cuts, they come from eliminating a massive subsidy to private insurers and gradually reducing the rate of growth in payments to some providers. These changes, while not catastrophic for Medicare, are important. Under the ACA, the federal government will substantially reduce the amount it spends funding Medicare Advantage, which is privately administered insurance offered to Medicare beneficiaries. About one-quarter of Medicare recipients are enrolled in private Medicare Advantage. In theory, these plans are supposed to manage health care spending better than fee-for-service Medicare. But they don't actually save the federal government any money. They cost, per patient, 14% more than traditional Medicare. (See Figure 3 of this fact sheet from the Kaiser Family Foundation. And see here for more.) The ACA eliminates this subsidy and pegs Medicare Advantage payments to quality metrics.

The second bunch of money that gets cut from Medicare under Obamacare comes from providers. Hospitals, home health agencies and others will see Medicare payments grow more slowly than they have in the past.

Quote from: Exterminator on August 16, 2012, 10:10:23 PM
Learn the difference between opinion and fact, racist hag.
Go for it big boy but then explain how an opinion can be a lie since you stated that was only an opinion. 
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Locutus

Quote from: me on August 17, 2012, 01:10:10 PM
Go for it big boy but then explain how an opinion can be a lie since you stated that was only an opinion. 

The moon is made of green cheese.  That's an opinion.  It's also a lie.  :wink:

Engage the noodle.  That's all that's required. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

I'm sitting here literally shaking my head.  I can't believe I actually had to explain that.  :no:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on August 17, 2012, 01:18:29 PM
The moon is made of green cheese.  That's an opinion.  It's also a lie.  :wink:

Engage the noodle.  That's all that's required.
And that is not a good example.
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Locutus

Quote from: me on August 17, 2012, 01:21:34 PM
And that is not a good example.

It's a perfectly valid example.  Why would such an example not extend to other opinions that are flat out lies? 

President Obama isn't an American citizen.  That's an opinion; it's also a flat out lie.

President Obama is a Muslim.  That's an opinion; it's also a flat out lie.

President Obama wants to take away our guns.  That's an opinion; it's also a flat out lie.

Shall I carry on?  I'm still shaking my head.  PLEASE tell me you're not as dense as you appear to be. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on August 17, 2012, 01:24:26 PM
It's a perfectly valid example.  Why would such an example not extend to other opinions that are flat out lies? 

President Obama isn't an American citizen.  That's an opinion; it's also a flat out lie.

President Obama is a Muslim.  That's an opinion; it's also a flat out lie.

President Obama wants to take away our guns.  That's an opinion; it's also a flat out lie.

Shall I carry on?  I'm still shaking my head.  PLEASE tell me you're not as dense as you appear to be.
All I will say on that is I went to the library and checked some things out where they couldn't be changed.  Did you?
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The Troll

Quote from: me on August 17, 2012, 09:31:04 AM
And everything you come up with isn't a Dem talking point?  BS it's right out of the play book like your last sentence.  That's what you are told to say and say it you do because you can't discuss issues.  If that were the only reason there would be no need for an election because Obama has all the answers and no other opinion would count.  That just ain't the way it works Troll.  Oh, and for the record once again.  Obama is not black he is mixed.

But, My dearest Sweet "ME" you still haven't told me why you hate Obama so much.  You still haven't told how he has affected you and your kid so badly.  How bad you have had it since he has been office.  You haven't said one good thing about Obama and you have lived very well.  You do like that Social Security and Medicare don't you?   :biggrin:

  "Obama in not black, he mixed" is what you said.  I had a Southern "gentleman" say to me once, that if a person has one ounce of black blood in them, "Well, he's a N-----!  I sure would like to be a fly on the wall when you and your Republican friends talk about Obama.  Oh, you racist bastards, is what Jeff Dunham dummy Achmed the dead suicide boomer would say.    :laugh: :biggrin:

Locutus

Quote from: me on August 17, 2012, 01:26:16 PM
All I will say on that is I went to the library and checked some things out where they couldn't be changed.  Did you?

What are you talking about? 

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Bo D

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Locutus

Quote from: Olias on August 17, 2012, 01:40:06 PM
She is ....

:shots:  :wacko: :wacko:

At least that would explain some of it.  :biggrin:   Sometimes I think I need to drink just to even read some of the stuff that's posted around here.  :yes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Bo D

Quote from: me on August 17, 2012, 01:26:16 PM
All I will say on that is I went to the library and checked some things out where they couldn't be changed.  Did you?

Yes. There are books in the library that definitively 'prove' that the Earth is the center of the Universe. And more that show that the Earth is flat. Your favorites, I'll bet.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

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Events that just aren't there any longer. have been removed, for cross checking, events that have changed from what really happened, meanings of certain words.  You know, the insignificant things that could make a difference at some point in what you think and whose "opinion" or "fact"  you chose to go with.   :wink:
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Bo D

Quote from: me on August 17, 2012, 02:24:58 PM
Events that just aren't there any longer. have been removed, for cross checking, events that have changed from what really happened, meanings of certain words.  You know, the insignificant things that could make a difference at some point in what you think and whose "opinion" or "fact"  you chose to go with.   :wink:

Oh ... like the 'fact' that Columbus "discovered" America?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan