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Quote from: The Troll on March 27, 2012, 07:28:16 PM
  If Obamacare is turned down by the Supreme Court 5 to 4 that means the Republican Party has complete control of the Supreme Court.

  After a 5 to 4 decision to stop the Florida vote count and put in George W. as president and counting out Gore.  Plus in a 5 to 4 decision to make corporations human beings.  Plus a 5 to 4 decision to let town, cities counties and states take your property under Iminent Domain and then sell your property to a business so they can build the property up so the business will pay more taxes to the tax collectors..

  If this is true our country and our freedom is defiantly under attack and our freedom will be destroyed and the Supreme Court has been bought off.  :rant:  This what the super rich, corporation and the Republican do.    :mad: :mad: :dam: :@#%&:
How is it you continually add 2+2 and come up with 5? 
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Bo D

Quote from: me on March 27, 2012, 05:52:29 PM
They are two entirely different things and you know it.  One forces you to purchase a service from a private company and the other is like, or was supposed to be like, a savings account.  So where is the precedent in that?

In either case, you are forced to buy something, whether or not you want to do so. It doesn't matter who the seller is.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

Quote from: me on March 27, 2012, 05:52:29 PM
They are two entirely different things and you know it.  One forces you to purchase a service from a private company and the other is like, or was supposed to be like, a savings account.  So where is the precedent in that?

This is an interesting ploy by conservatives who were so dead set against national health care coverage.  Now, they're saying that it is unconstitutional because it isn't?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Olias on March 28, 2012, 08:33:09 AM
In either case, you are forced to buy something, whether or not you want to do so. It doesn't matter who the seller is.
And, like I said, both are wrong and both were implemented by Liberals.  Another thing that is wrong is forcing private insurance companies to take people who already have a serious condition.  I understand they also need some sort of help but at the same time that is already going to be a debt to them, and possibly a huge one, so they need to raise their rates or decrease the amount they pay to everyone or they would go out of business.  That is most of the reason your rates have gone up and coverage down now.   If all private insurance companies go out of business because they are suddenly unsustainable guess what......nothing is left but government coverage.  You will no longer have the "insurance of your choice" because there will be no one around to purchase it from or it will be so costly only the top 1% will be able to afford it. You know, a lot of those who talk against the top 1% even though they are in it themselves but were against having to have the same coverage we would end up with even though the conservatives wanted that included in the HCB.   
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on March 28, 2012, 12:45:50 PM
And, like I said, both are wrong and both were implemented by Liberals.  Another thing that is wrong is forcing private insurance companies to take people who already have a serious condition.  I understand they also need some sort of help but at the same time that is already going to be a debt to them, and possibly a huge one, so they need to raise their rates or decrease the amount they pay to everyone or they would go out of business.  That is most of the reason your rates have gone up and coverage down now.   If all private insurance companies go out of business because they are suddenly unsustainable guess what......nothing is left but government coverage.  You will no longer have the "insurance of your choice" because there will be no one around to purchase it from or it will be so costly only the top 1% will be able to afford it. You know, a lot of those who talk against the top 1% even though they are in it themselves but were against having to have the same coverage we would end up with even though the conservatives wanted that included in the HCB.

Its called assumed risk, and every damn form of insurance endures it. Nature of the beast, and to quote the conservative party line, "if they fail they fail".

Unless these people with pre-existing conditions have coverage, then you and I pay for it because they get treatment, can't pay, file bankruptcy and lose their home! Result - loss for the treating facility, higher rates for services to compensate, higher premiums to cover the insurance companies.

Cheaper for everybody to front load that problem by having them covered. 
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on March 28, 2012, 01:04:15 PM
Its called assumed risk, and every damn form of insurance endures it. Nature of the beast, and to quote the conservative party line, "if they fail they fail".

Unless these people with pre-existing conditions have coverage, then you and I pay for it because they get treatment, can't pay, file bankruptcy and lose their home! Result - loss for the treating facility, higher rates for services to compensate, higher premiums to cover the insurance companies.

Cheaper for everybody to front load that problem by having them covered. 

this analogy is like the Charlie Sheen and the DirecTV commercials.....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on March 28, 2012, 01:04:15 PM
Its called assumed risk, and every damn form of insurance endures it. Nature of the beast, and to quote the conservative party line, "if they fail they fail".

Unless these people with pre-existing conditions have coverage, then you and I pay for it because they get treatment, can't pay, file bankruptcy and lose their home! Result - loss for the treating facility, higher rates for services to compensate, higher premiums to cover the insurance companies.

Cheaper for everybody to front load that problem by having them covered.

  I for one would like to see a single payer plan a plan to cover everybody in America, a plan based on Medicare.

  I would like to see the Supreme Court turn it down on a 5 to 4 ruling just to prove the corporations and the Republican Party own the Court lock stock and barrel.   :yes:

  Obamacare is some what flawed because it was written to get the Republican votes and get the private insurance corporations into the deal.  I think you can't have a health program run by the insurance companies on a for profit basics.  It stinks of greed on the insurance companies and the Republican Party.

  After the Court turns it down what are the people who is now being helped, the donut hole people, people who have kids with precondition diseases, and insurance for young people under 26 on their health insurance plus other help.   :confused:

  But what is Romney going to do.  He won't be able to veto Obamacare or even talk about it.  :haha:  :haha:

  It is definitely left in the hands of the Supreme Court judges who were choose by the Republican Party and George W.  :haha: :haha:  What are they going to do.  :cry:  :cry:   :cry: :trustme: :dam:

Palehorse

President Barack Obama holds a double-digit lead over GOP presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum in hypothetical general election matchups, according to a new poll.

And a CNN/ORC International survey released Wednesday also indicates that the president's approval rating has inched over the 50% mark in CNN surveys for the first time since last May, when the polls were still registering the after effects of the death of Osama bin Laden.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/28/cnn-poll-obama-leads-romney-and-santorum-in-november-showdowns/?hpt=hp_t3


Keep digging boys!  :big grin:

:dig: :dig: :dig:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

lets wait until November before you get TOO excited.......one day a poll shows Mitt winning then the next it is obama.....the media is gettin nervous already.
it is what it is.......we will move on one way or the other.  There is a reason for everything.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 29, 2012, 09:48:14 AM
lets wait until November before you get TOO excited.......one day a poll shows Mitt winning then the next it is obama.....the media is gettin nervous already.
it is what it is.......we will move on one way or the other.  There is a reason for everything.

  Keep praying :pray:  Henry.  We will see how it works out for you.  :haha:   :zoners:

Henry Hawk

I have this spot bookmarked..... :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Good; we'll be serving crow on 11/7...stop by for some!   :razz:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on March 29, 2012, 01:26:24 PM
Good; we'll be serving crow on 11/7...stop by for some!   :razz:

I don't think there will be any left after you guys get your bellies full.... :razz:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 29, 2012, 02:38:50 PM
House kills Obama budget 414-0

"Neither the Ryan budget nor the one proposed earlier this year from the White House, which raises taxes on the wealthy to trim deficits, is expected to be approved by this divided Congress, rendering them more campaign manifestos than blueprints for governing."
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.