Democrats SUCK!!

[Henry Hawk]

  If high taxes where so inportant to the European people the would be coming here in droves.  Running over each other to get here.  A lot of European countries are in trouble because of the stock marketeers and the banksters that George W. and the Republican Party turned loose on them.  Try again Henry.  You're just like a drowning man clutching for a straw to save himself. 

  I must say every day and in every way the Tea Party and the Republican party are killing themselves.  Keep up the good work and Obama and the Democrats will win by a landslide this coming November in the House and the Senate. 

  I want Newt to stay in the election process and Rick Santorum to win the nomination.  I would love for Rick to win, he's such good people.   

yeah, Troll Blame Bush...that is ALL you guys have got.......and the sad part is, NONE of it is even remotely true....I posted FACTs about the taxex....do YOU want to pay 83% tax rate?........I betcha most Americans would crap if they HAD to pay that rate....wake up.

[me]

  It's is really suprising when you watch the Discovery channel and see shows on England, Denmark, Sweden, Greenland, France, Germany, Norway and more and you see how healthy the people look, how clean they look and how well they are dressed.

  How beautiful the cities, building and street are.   Now new the cars look and all the parks, churches, public transportation is, roads and all of them have socialized medicine.  It is sure different from what the Republican Party says it is. 

  You sure got it right Ex how the Republican Party and the super rich feed the lies and out right distrotions to the Sheeple.   Plus how the Sheeple swallow it hook line and sinker.  They seem gut hooked. (cant' get off the hook)      

                                                   

You are seeing what they want you to see Troll.  You are foolin' yourself if you think it's all that way and there are not poor or unhealthy people in those places. 

[The Troll]

You are seeing what they want you to see Troll.  You are foolin' yourself if you think it's all that way and there are not poor or unhealthy people in those places.

  Oh, they might have  poor people and stupid people, old people and sick people, but they got medical care any time they need and it don't cost them anything out of their pocket no matter how much it cost.

  You Republicans want to do away with it and you call compassionate conservatism.    You want to take a woman right to choose and the right to birth control.  Even one of your assholes want a woman to deliver a dead baby.  No abortion if raped or though incest.

  You people make me sick with you stupid thinking.  They say with age you gain intelligence and wisdom.  With you two "they" are wrong.  But what gets me is you can't see the truth.  Just blind thinking and worshiping the super rich.   

[me]

  Oh, they might have  poor people and stupid people, old people and sick people, but they got medical care any time they need and it don't cost them anything out of their pocket no matter how much it cost.

  You Republicans want to do away with it and you call compassionate conservatism.    You want to take a woman right to choose and the right to birth control.  Even one of your assholes want a woman to deliver a dead baby.  No abortion if raped or though incest.

  You people make me sick with you stupid thinking.  They say with age you gain intelligence and wisdom.  With you two "they" are wrong.  But what gets me is you can't see the truth.  Just blind thinking and worshiping the super rich.   

Sure they do as long as they get in line for anything serious. 

[The Troll]

Sure they do as long as they get in line for anything serious.

  HUH?  I'll let your answer stand and other than that.   

[Exterminator]

....I posted FACTs about the taxex....do YOU want to pay 83% tax rate?

No, you posted bullshit.  Care to back up your figures and then compare them to what we pay...and make sure when you do so, our taxes are all inclusive as well; k?

[Exterminator]

You are seeing what they want you to see Troll.  You are foolin' yourself if you think it's all that way and there are not poor or unhealthy people in those places.

Sure they have poor people but you'll never see expansive ghettos and projects like you do here; they simply don't exist.  Yes, there are also unhealthy people but nowhere near as many as we have and for good reason: they don't have the epidemic of obesity we have here.  You know what else they have there?  A sense of civic responsibility, unlike the selfish "it's all about me" mentality common with most Americans.

[followsthewolf]

That's a classic conservative capitalistic mentality.

"What's mine is mine and what I can get of yours is mine, too."

[Exterminator]

Sure they do as long as they get in line for anything serious.

That's a lie; the quality of health care for every country in Europe except for Poland is ranked significantly higher than the U.S.

[Henry Hawk]

No, you posted bullshit.  Care to back up your figures and then compare them to what we pay...and make sure when you do so, our taxes are all inclusive as well; k?

k,

Total tax percentage paid by the above average US citizen, 2009 est. - 57.7%

   includes the following:

Item   Rate   Notes
Federal personal income tax   17%
(2011 est. - 18.2%)   Top 25% rate. It ranges from a credit up to well over 40%. Source

State & local income taxes   10.1%
(2009 - 10.6%)   State taxes range from under 6% to over 12%. Local taxes run from zero to 2.75%. Source, source, source, 2009 source

Sales tax   9.7%
(2009 - 10.3%)   Figure is the average rate. State sales taxes range up to 8% and local taxes run from zero to over 5%. Source, source, source, 2008 source, 2009 source

Social security & Medicaid   7.65%   Total rate is actually 15.3% since half is paid by the employer, but we're ignoring that to be kind and to avoid being accused of being too political. Source, box 1

Federal corporate income tax share   3%   Based on corporate taxes being approximately 1/6 of personal taxes, and that they are paid by individuals in the final analysis. Source

Property tax   2.5%
(2007 - 2.7%)   Yearly average actual costs range from under $200 in Alaska to almost $1900 in New Jersey. Source

Fuel/gasoline tax   .5%
(2009 est. - .6%)   Approximately 23% of the 2005 gasoline price is for federal & state taxes. The federal excise tax is 18.4 cents per gallon. Per the CPI, about 6% of the average budget is for transportation. Estimated. 2010 estimate, $.45 per gallon average. Source

Other   5%
(2009 est. - 7%)   Includes estate tax, fees, licenses, inflation losses, inheritance, deficit allowance, gift, and others too numerous to mention. Estimated.

European tax rates range from 59.6% to 83%. This just the fed income and the VAT...it does not include a whole list of other taxes not included in this mix...



http://america-wake-up.com/2010/07/14/european-versus-us-taxes/

[Exterminator]

Seriously?  That's your source?  There are too many misrepresentations to mention in this person's so-called data but suffice it to say that they're using tax rates that apply only to the very top echelon who have virtually no deductions as though everyone pays that rate.  Most people do not.  They also ascribe the VAT to one's entire income...not how it works...not even close...more like a national sales tax and I thought you advocated that?

This is exactly my point...most Americans don't know shit about Europe and believe this type of bullshit.

[Henry Hawk]

K,   


four words....Italy, Spain and Greece

[Exterminator]

K,   
 
four words....Italy, Spain and Greece

Yes, they have issues; so do we.

[Henry Hawk]

Yes, they have issues; so do we.

but we can fix ours in November by firing those who created it.....Starting with Obama.     (zing!)

[Exterminator]

That's what we thought when we fired Bush; it's just taking longer than expected.