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Democrats SUCK!!

Started by Henry Hawk, May 03, 2010, 08:39:50 AM

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Quote from: Palehorse on August 10, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
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For instance, anyone who doesn't agree with the present administration is racist or bigoted.  If they're black they're a discredit to their race.  If they're a member of the Tea Party they're worse than a terrorist or the next thing to a commie.  Give me a break will ya?  Think man think.
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Quote from: me on August 10, 2011, 07:09:59 AM
And the media, well most of the media, will demonize anything that doesn't agree with the current agenda of the Dem's and Obama.  Wake up people and look around.

What is that 'agenda' to which you're referring?
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In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

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Quote from: Y on August 10, 2011, 05:07:11 PM
What is that 'agenda' to which you're referring?
Health care and the economy basically.  And don't even start that crap about you have to agree with his plans because he's black.  That's pure BS and you know it. No one has to agree with anyone because of their color, nationality or religion.
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Quote from: me on August 10, 2011, 05:15:00 PM
Health care and the economy basically...

That's hardly elaborating.  Spell it out in specifics.

©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

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Quote from: Y on August 10, 2011, 05:30:18 PM
That's hardly elaborating.  Spell it out in specifics.
The health care plan is too expensive and if it was so good congress, basically the dem's which were in control at the time, would have done as the Republican's, well some of them, wanted at the time and put themselves on it and we are quickly sliding on a downward trend due to his economic policies, borrow, print, and spend.   Have you been to the grocery store lately?  I can't say I really care for the way he is trying to stifle the opposition either.  And I say again, don't start the blame Bush game he's been out of office almost 3yrs and this is Obama's baby now.  Any way you slice it things are getting worse not better. 
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Exterminator

So when Bush was in office and the Dems had majority in Congress for the last two years of his term, it was their fault and now that Obama is the President and the Repubs have the majority in Congress it's the president's fault; isn't that what you're saying?

Either way...can you please elaborate on "the health care plan is too expensive"?  It makes for a wonderful sound bite but a recent report (from a panel that never liked the plan to begin with) disproves this assertion.  I'm sure you can provide your figures to the contrary?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

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I guess we won't be seeing those numbers anytime soon...another baseless claim.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

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Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

For the simpletons, here's a picture.  Keep in mind that this analysis was done by people who were against the health care reform bill.

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

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Quote from: Exterminator on August 11, 2011, 09:19:22 AM
So when Bush was in office and the Dems had majority in Congress for the last two years of his term, it was their fault and now that Obama is the President and the Repubs have the majority in Congress it's the president's fault; isn't that what you're saying?

Either way...can you please elaborate on "the health care plan is too expensive"?  It makes for a wonderful sound bite but a recent report (from a panel that never liked the plan to begin with) disproves this assertion.  I'm sure you can provide your figures to the contrary?
The dems had the majority in BOTH houses not just one. 
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Quote from: Exterminator on August 11, 2011, 02:03:17 PM
For the simpletons, here's a picture.  Keep in mind that this analysis was done by people who were against the health care reform bill.


Quote from: Y on August 10, 2011, 05:30:18 PM
That's hardly elaborating.  Spell it out in specifics.


Keep in mind that any of the figures are pure speculation and cannot be taken as fact.  Keep in mind also that, unlike you were told that insurance costs would decrease, they have risen since the first part of this plan, no one can be turned down, have been implemented.  All you have to do is stop and think about how expensive it is now with only medicare and medicaid to some and to realize how much it would cost to apply that to everyone especially if we're going to get the excellent care we're being told to expect.  Get real and wake up will ya?  Quit taking hypothetical figures as fact and think for yourself. 
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Keep in mind that the parts of the original bill that contained the teeth, were stricken by the health insurance subsidized congressional morons.

We've already had this conversation. Back when the conservatives were squalling over price controls and trying to kill the bill outright, and had you guys screaming the sky is falling over it.

In fact I warned everyone back then that without that integral part of the legislation, the HCI industry was going to implement mid double digit increases, and they have.

Now its somehow the fault of the POTUS? I'd give you some money with which to purchase a clue, but thanks to the fearmongering that took the teeth out of the HC bill, I don't have any!
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Quote from: Palehorse on August 11, 2011, 09:18:22 PM
Keep in mind that the parts of the original bill that contained the teeth, were stricken by the health insurance subsidized congressional morons.

We've already had this conversation. Back when the conservatives were squalling over price controls and trying to kill the bill outright, and had you guys screaming the sky is falling over it.

In fact I warned everyone back then that without that integral part of the legislation, the HCI industry was going to implement mid double digit increases, and they have.

Now its somehow the fault of the POTUS? I'd give you some money with which to purchase a clue, but thanks to the fearmongering that took the teeth out of the HC bill, I don't have any!
You were told that but did you actually see it?  I don't like the way it was done, passed, I don't like the fact that a lot of things have been and are still being done behind closed doors, I don't like the fact that Pelosi said, "just pass it and then find out what's in it", and I don't like the fact that there is now a committee that wasn't going to exist that has been appointed to "oversee" how treatments are going to be doled out.  I may have missed it but I've also never heard who wrote and sponsored it, the original bill.  Hell congress didn't even know for sure what was in it.  Some of them even said they didn't read every piece of legislation they passed and hadn't read it because it was so large. 
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Quote from: me on August 11, 2011, 08:48:42 PM
Get real and wake up will ya?  Quit taking hypothetical figures as fact and think for yourself.

Once again, you assume that with no education or real business experience, you somehow have keen insight into things that you really know absolutely nothing about.  I know they're big words but you need to learn the difference between hypothesis and projections.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.