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Started by Henry Hawk, May 03, 2010, 08:39:50 AM

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: LOsborne on September 03, 2010, 06:29:12 PM
Henry, why did you attach a link to a page listing the requirements by state to register to vote, to this tired old rehash that the POTUS didn't pull off the miracle of making unemployment mess go away? Did you forget what you were talking about?

whoopsy daisy, I copied n pasted the wrong link that went to another thread....I get in too big of hurry sometimes....I forget now, what link I was going to attach..... :spooked:

my point IS, that the POTUS himself PROMISED, if WE passed the $787 + stimulus bill, unemployment would NOT climb above 8%....well it did....I think it is time to begin to realize that maybe, just maybe his, and Pelosi, and Reids plan, MAY not be working as they was sure as hell thought was going to work....
and IF, they do NOT extend the Bush Tax Cuts, we are headed for a BIGGER mess than we are in now....

why is it so hard for democrats to admit, that every freakin time there was a proper tax cut, the federal revenue increased...when they became a burden upon the tax payers, the revenue decreased....the facts are already in.....Kennedy proved it, Reagan proved it, and Bush proved it.......everytime!!!, the fed revenue INCREASED.
so what does Obama want to do?.....let the Bush Tax Cuts expire, and RAISE them on those who make over $200,000...

I can assure you, IF and WHEN, the repubs gain control of the House and Senate, and keep the Bush Tax cuts in place, YOU will see the economy begin to flourish....because, THEN and only THEN, will business's start to invest back into the economy....they are holding out right now, because of the uncertainty of our congress, the spending, and the HC bill......

with all of this said, is WHY exactly I believe the name of this thread is accurate.... ;)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 03, 2010, 07:47:40 PM
whoopsy daisy, I copied n pasted the wrong link that went to another thread....I get in too big of hurry sometimes....I forget now, what link I was going to attach..... :spooked:

my point IS, that the POTUS himself PROMISED, if WE passed the $787 + stimulus bill, unemployment would NOT climb above 8%....well it did....I think it is time to begin to realize that maybe, just maybe his, and Pelosi, and Reids plan, MAY not be working as they was sure as hell thought was going to work....
and IF, they do NOT extend the Bush Tax Cuts, we are headed for a BIGGER mess than we are in now....

why is it so hard for democrats to admit, that every freakin time there was a proper tax cut, the federal revenue increased...when they became a burden upon the tax payers, the revenue decreased....the facts are already in.....Kennedy proved it, Reagan proved it, and Bush proved it.......everytime!!!, the fed revenue INCREASED.
so what does Obama want to do?.....let the Bush Tax Cuts expire, and RAISE them on those who make over $200,000...

I can assure you, IF and WHEN, the repubs gain control of the House and Senate, and keep the Bush Tax cuts in place, YOU will see the economy begin to flourish....because, THEN and only THEN, will business's start to invest back into the economy....they are holding out right now, because of the uncertainty of our congress, the spending, and the HC bill......

with all of this said, is WHY exactly I believe the name of this thread is accurate.... ;)

  From the polls and all the dumbasses in this country they might put the lying thieving bastards back in that caused this mess. 

  I guarantee this country will see chaos and pain.  The Republicans will operate this country just like they did under George W.  Why, because there was the largest transfer of money from the middle class to the rich in the history of the U.S.A. and the Republicans loves to steal middle class money.









the troll

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on September 07, 2010, 08:23:16 AM
I guarantee this country will see chaos and pain. 

WE ARE SEEING CHAOS AND PAIN!!!!....Where have YOU been?...and the dipshit democrats want to let the Bush Tax cuts expire, how freaking stupid is THAT?....THAT will REALLY get our economy started (sarcasm, just in case you didn't pick up on it)....the way I see it, thing can only get better, IF the repubs get back in control.....the KEEP the Bush Tax Cuts IN place, and consumer confidence WILL take care of the rest, and our economy will resume BACK to a somewhat normal economy....but if they don't WE are so screwed.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 07, 2010, 08:53:39 AM
WE ARE SEEING CHAOS AND PAIN!!!!....Where have YOU been?...and the dipshit democrats want to let the Bush Tax cuts expire, how freaking stupid is THAT?....THAT will REALLY get our economy started (sarcasm, just in case you didn't pick up on it)....the way I see it, thing can only get better, IF the repubs get back in control.....the KEEP the Bush Tax Cuts IN place, and consumer confidence WILL take care of the rest, and our economy will resume BACK to a somewhat normal economy....but if they don't WE are so screwed.

  One question Tax Cut King. :chick: These temporary tax cut were put in by the Republicans, so please tell me how many jobs did these tax cut to the super rich make.  None and if they stay they still won't create one job.

  But there is one question no one asks.  Why don't we fix the god damn trade agreements.  We're getting screwed to death and no one, the damn Democrats and  the corporations loving Republicans haven't done a freaking thing to put a stop to it.   Just how many jobs have we lost here in Indiana to the Mexicans in the last month.

Sandy Eggo

That's BS Henry - several have tried to explain to you the economics of tax cuts. You wait a few days and repost the same thing. I think they've given up.

To be accurate, the Democrats want to renew a portion of the Bush tax cuts, but the Republicans won't sign off unless their rich buddies are included. Typical crap we've seen for the past 18 mos. The Republicans don't seem to care about what's best for the country as a whole and most certainly not the middle class and below.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 07, 2010, 12:45:34 PM
That's BS Henry - several have tried to explain to you the economics of tax cuts. You wait a few days and repost the same thing. I think they've given up.

That is bullshit Sandy, they have NOT proved a damn thing by posting "THIER" links that dispute it...I know for a fact, they do and HAVE worked....history has clearly shown this to be fact....enough of the spin BS.

and the democrats are trying REAL hard to spin things even MORE...by whinning that the right is stalling and holding up any progress....the fact IS, the repubs are NOT going to go along with ANYTHING that is BAD for America, despite if it is candy coated, and appears to be "good for amercica"...

I will give you an example of what I am talking about....

http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB10001424052748703578104575397270802770004.html

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Sandy Eggo

^There is none so blind as those who will not see. :no:
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 07, 2010, 12:45:34 PM
That's BS Henry - several have tried to explain to you the economics of tax cuts. You wait a few days and repost the same thing. I think they've given up.

Pretty much like trying to teach a pig to dance; it's a waste of time and it annoys the pig.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Exterminator on September 07, 2010, 04:22:37 PM
Pretty much like trying to teach a pig to dance; it's a waste of time and it annoys the pig.

  Or trying to teach a pig to fly. :pigfly:

me

Guess that's why more jobs are being lost and no one is hiring.  They're waiting on the tax cuts to expire to perk up the economy....damn it's all clear to me now.  Gosh now if everyone can just hold out 'til the end of Jan when we'll feel the real effect if the tax cuts aren't extended.  Wow.....we'll all be singin' Happy Day's Are Here Again..... :rolleyes:
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LOsborne

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 07, 2010, 12:51:47 PM
...I know for a fact, they do and HAVE worked...

So I will ask one more time (with no real expectation of getting an answer any more than I did the first three times I asked:

What jobs did the Bush tax cuts create from 2000 to 2008? And you can't count soldiers.

me

Quote from: LOsborne on September 07, 2010, 07:06:07 PM
So I will ask one more time (with no real expectation of getting an answer any more than I did the first three times I asked:

What jobs did the Bush tax cuts create from 2000 to 2008? And you can't count soldiers.
The unemployment rate was low, businesses were expanding, and people had more money in their pockets to spend. 
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LOsborne

Quote from: me on September 07, 2010, 07:18:08 PM
The unemployment rate was low, businesses were expanding, and people had more money in their pockets to spend. 

Source?

The unemployment rate started its climb in 2001. What businesses were expanding, me?

http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp

You just made it up, didn't you?

me

http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/03/news/economy/jobs_january/index.htm

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Employers add 193,000 jobs in January as unemployment dips unexpectedly, wages up more than forecasts.
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February 3, 2006: 12:43 PM EST

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - The unemployment rate fell to its lowest level in nearly five years in January, the government reported Friday, as employers added a respectable 193,000 jobs to payrolls and paychecks increased more than expected.

The Labor Department said the unemployment rate dipped to 4.7 percent from 4.9 in December, the lowest since 4.6 percent in July 2001, just before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Economists had forecast that the rate would remain unchanged from December.



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The drop in unemployment was the latest sign of a tightening labor market, which could put upward pressure on wages and prices in the months ahead.

On Wall Street, stocks fell as investors worried that the report makes further interest rate hikes by the Federal Reserve more likely.

Treasury bond prices fell right after the report was released but later recovered.

The department said average hourly wage rose 7 cents to $16.41, a 0.4 percent increase that was slightly more than the 0.3 percent gain forecast by economists.

Over the last 12 months, average wages are up 3.3 percent on a seasonally adjusted basis, the biggest 12-month change in nearly three years.

In the part of the report that normally gets the most attention, U.S. employers added 193,000 jobs to payrolls in January, up from a revised 140,000 gain in December. Economists surveyed by Briefing.com had forecast a gain of 250,000 for January.

But the unemployment rate and wage increase seemed to be getting most of investors' attention on Wall Street.

Anthony Chan, chief economist for JPMorgan Private Client Services, said he thinks the market might be overreacting a bit to the unemployment rate, which is based on a survey of households and is generally seen as less accurate than the survey of employers for the payroll numbers.

"I didn't see the average length of the work week picking up. I didn't see an increase in the labor market participation rate," he said. "That all makes me concerned that some of the tightening talk is a bit overstated."

Jeoff Hall, the chief U.S. economist for Thomson Financial, agreed that the unemployment rate could bounce back up in coming months as those now not counted as in the labor force start to look for or find jobs.

But he also said that the department's Bureau of Labor Statistics annual revision to last year's payroll numbers showed that the job reports from the last half of 2005 understated the strength of the labor market.

"It turns out the labor market is a lot tighter than we first thought," said Hall. "If you look at the last five months alone, we had 151,000 more jobs added than the BLS had first estimated."

But of course my source sucks and is wrong 'cause yours is probably done by an accredited professor at an accredited college or something.  I'd take 4.7% unemployment over almost 10% any day.  Of course you're not taking into account that after the 9/11 attacks some people were out of work because there were some businesses were destroyed in the attack. 
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