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pariann

#210
August 27, 2009, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: Bo D on August 27, 2009, 01:18:17 PM
This has been posted before, but just for you.....

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3200:
Do you think I'm going to be any less confused?  From what I'm understanding, no matter what is written there, and how clearly stated it is, everyone is calling everyone else a liar when they interpret what IS clearly stated.  I can't get an educated opinion on this issue. :(
Looks like I've come full circle.

me

#211
August 27, 2009, 01:51:27 PM
Show me him saying it or the bill not just an "oped" piece. 
Quote from: Bo D on August 27, 2009, 01:48:56 PM
It CERTAINLY can't be any worse that what I have now! And from reading THE BILL, it WILL be better.
Then you'd better get your glasses changed or if you don't wear them get some.
Trump 2020

Bo D

#212
August 27, 2009, 01:55:36 PM
Quote from: pariann on August 27, 2009, 01:49:48 PM
Do you think I'm going to be any less confused?  From what I'm understanding, no matter what is written there, and how clearly stated it is, everyone is calling everyone else a liar when they interpret what IS clearly stated.  I can't get an educated opinion on this issue. :(

I gave you an educated opinion.  :yes:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Bo D

#213
August 27, 2009, 01:56:51 PM
Quote from: me on August 27, 2009, 01:51:27 PM
Show me him saying it or the bill not just an "oped" piece. 

There is no "bill" because the Republicans haven't offered one.  :rolleyes:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

pariann

#214
August 27, 2009, 02:03:13 PM
Quote from: Bo D on August 27, 2009, 01:55:36 PM
I gave you an educated opinion.  :yes:
I want my OWN educated opinoin. LOL  It's probably not wise to listen to just one.  That's where we keep getting people calling other people liars.   Anyway.  I don't even care.  I've lived 48 years with subpar health care, just about anything is going to be better, even if it ends up that I will be selected to let die after a certain age.  The way it is for me right now, that's exactly what's going to happen.  No medical treatment when I'm old and infirm.
Looks like I've come full circle.

Bo D

#215
August 27, 2009, 02:11:35 PM
Quote from: pariann on August 27, 2009, 02:03:13 PM
I want my OWN educated opinoin. LOL  It's probably not wise to listen to just one.  That's where we keep getting people calling other people liars.   Anyway.  I don't even care.  I've lived 48 years with subpar health care, just about anything is going to be better, even if it ends up that I will be selected to let die after a certain age.  The way it is for me right now, that's exactly what's going to happen.  No medical treatment when I'm old and infirm.

I'm not trying to be a smartass here, but the best way to get an educated opinion is to read the bill.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

#216
August 27, 2009, 02:22:45 PM
Quote from: Bo D on August 27, 2009, 01:56:51 PM
There is no "bill" because the Republicans haven't offered one.  :rolleyes:

Wrong.....They have offered THREE...

n May, Republicans in the House and the Senate formed a bicameral coalition to produce the130-page " Patients Choice Act of 2009"

In June, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) introduced a 41-page proposal.... "Health Care Freedom Plan"
                                   
And in July, the Republican Study Committee, under the leadership of Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), unveiled a 130-page plan. "Empowering Patients First Act,"

All three are very interesting and WORTH National attention...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#217
August 27, 2009, 02:38:39 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 27, 2009, 12:35:38 PM
I say this with all due respect, but you guys are full of shit!!.. ;D  These are people from ALL walks of life...who ARE very well informed...

No they're not; they're the same bunch of dumb rednecks as were downtown at that tea-bagging party.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

#218
August 27, 2009, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 27, 2009, 02:22:45 PM
Wrong.....They have offered THREE...


All three are very interesting and WORTH National attention...

Why is there NO RECORD of their ever being introduced as A BILL?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

#219
August 27, 2009, 03:01:23 PM
Quote from: Bo D on August 27, 2009, 02:44:35 PM
Why is there NO RECORD of their ever being introduced as A BILL?

Well, bo....there is:

HR 2520 ...you will find the Patients Choice Act....

H.R.3400  Empowering Patients First Act




"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#220
August 27, 2009, 03:29:39 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 27, 2009, 03:01:23 PM
Well, bo....there is:

HR 2520 ...you will find the Patients Choice Act....

H.R.3400  Empowering Patients First Act

There are and how are these bills different from that offered by the other side of the aisle?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#221
August 27, 2009, 03:40:12 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 27, 2009, 03:29:39 PM
There are and how are these bills different from that offered by the other side of the aisle?

It does not raise taxes or increase government spending...but uses the money we currently spend more effectively.

All this came about because Bo said the republicans did not offer one...and THAT is wrong...(or a lie, to use YOUR terminalogy)....

Then he said there is NO record of these bills ever being introduced....again...wrong.

Are they different.........off the cuff, YES they are...try reading them and see for yourself.


"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#222
August 27, 2009, 03:55:39 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 27, 2009, 03:40:12 PM
It does not raise taxes or increase government spending...but uses the money we currently spend more effectively.

Are you absolutely certain that both of those things are true and if I can prove you wrong on either of them, will yuou admit you don't know what you're talking about and stay out of any further discussions about health care reform?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#223
August 27, 2009, 04:02:43 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 27, 2009, 03:55:39 PM
Are you absolutely certain that both of those things are true and if I can prove you wrong on either of them, will yuou admit you don't know what you're talking about and stay out of any further discussions about health care reform?


Am I certain that those things are TRUE?...What THINGS are you talking about?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#224
August 27, 2009, 04:04:31 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 27, 2009, 04:02:43 PM
Am I certain that those things are TRUE?...What THINGS are you talking about?

That it will not increase government spending.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.
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