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Started by Gardengirl, May 15, 2009, 09:09:57 AM

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Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 15, 2009, 09:54:24 AM
AND THAT IS A PISS POOR REASON....IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ...PUSHED THROUGH SO QUICKLY....

I know that the idea of cost/benefit ratio is lost on you but is it possible that the combination of the delay in time and the cost of reviewing and revising the data was greater than the exposure of not doing so?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 15, 2009, 10:25:51 AM
as a mater of fact I WAS...it was MORE waste.............but if you think I'm giving BACK money I should have had in the first place then ...you must be high!...

why do you ...selectively call them "incentive" checks?

Should I call them welfare checks?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on May 15, 2009, 10:27:49 AM
Should I call them welfare checks?

I really don't care WHAT they are called....it is money that should NOT have been taken away from my paycheck in the first place...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 15, 2009, 10:29:53 AM
I really don't care WHAT they are called....it is money that should NOT have been taken away from my paycheck in the first place...

It was taken away from your paycheck?  That's odd since it really wasn't accounted for with any sort of recalculation of your 2007 tax return and didn't appear as income on your 2008 return?  I would submit that it was money taken out of my paycheck and given to you.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on May 15, 2009, 10:57:27 AM
It was taken away from your paycheck?  That's odd since it really wasn't accounted for with any sort of recalculation of your 2007 tax return and didn't appear as income on your 2008 return?  I would submit that it was money taken out of my paycheck and given to you.

I would submit that you are wrong....it is money that should NOT have been taken out of my check in the first place....they simply gave BACK money that I had previously given....I have paid plenty, in comparison to what many pay.

If we would quit - wasting tax dollars -  then this would not even be an issue.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 15, 2009, 11:04:41 AM
I would submit that you are wrong....it is money that should NOT have been taken out of my check in the first place....they simply gave BACK money that I had previously given....I have paid plenty, in comparison to what many pay.

And you'd be full of shit.  If I pay in more than you do and I don't get any of it back but you do, I subsidized your refund, plain and simple.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on May 15, 2009, 12:53:06 PM
And you'd be full of shit.  If I pay in more than you do and I don't get any of it back but you do, I subsidized your refund, plain and simple.

and I would say the you are full of shit, plain and simple..........I subsidized my own refund....it was mine in the first place...and btw, I think it sucks that EVERYBODY, who paid taxes, SHOULD have got a refund...well, I take that back, we should not have paid as much as we did into it in the first place....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 15, 2009, 01:50:22 PM
and I would say the you are full of shit, plain and simple..........I subsidized my own refund....it was mine in the first place...and btw, I think it sucks that EVERYBODY, who paid taxes, SHOULD have got a refund...well, I take that back, we should not have paid as much as we did into it in the first place....

Again, you'd be wrong...in fact, by not getting any breaks for having any dependents, I also subsidize your breeding...talk about getting ripped off!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on May 15, 2009, 02:32:48 PM
Again, you'd be wrong...in fact, by not getting any breaks for having any dependents, I also subsidize your breeding...talk about getting ripped off!

You should come to one of those Tea Parties then, because THAT is the kind of crap WE are getting tired of!!!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 15, 2009, 02:56:06 PM
You should come to one of those Tea Parties then, because THAT is the kind of crap WE are getting tired of!!!

And hang out with a bunch of other people whose little heathens I'm paying for?  I'd sooner poke myself in the eye with a sharp stick.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on May 15, 2009, 03:23:06 PM
And hang out with a bunch of other people whose little heathens I'm paying for?  I'd sooner poke myself in the eye with a sharp stick.

I doubt you are paying these guys.......the VAST majority of them are your day to day, hard working, tax paying Americans................not like those who sit at home and watch Oprah!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 15, 2009, 03:44:43 PM
I doubt you are paying these guys.......the VAST majority of them are your day to day, hard working, tax paying Americans................not like those who sit at home and watch Oprah!

Dude, even in the presence of budget deficits, some money has to be moving through the treasury.  If these hard-working Americans are getting most of their tax money back (solely based on their often questionable breeding choices) and I'm not, I'm supporting the government and they are not to the same extent especially given that their larger families require a greater share of resources.  It's pretty simple math, really.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on May 15, 2009, 03:48:21 PM
Dude, even in the presence of budget deficits, some money has to be moving through the treasury.  If these hard-working Americans are getting most of their tax money back (solely based on their often questionable breeding choices) and I'm not, I'm supporting the government and they are not to the same extent especially given that their larger families require a greater share of resources.  It's pretty simple math, really.

they are not getting MOST of their tax money back.............where did you read that?..........most are paying "around" 28% to 33% of their income....

you also got to remember, that those who have families, normally spend a large portion of their income to support their families, which enhances our federal revenue.....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 15, 2009, 03:54:53 PM
they are not getting MOST of their tax money back.............where did you read that?..........most are paying "around" 28% to 33% of their income....

They are paying proprtionally less than those who don't have dependents...period.

Quoteyou also got to remember, that those who have families, normally spend a large portion of their income to support their families, which enhances our federal revenue.....

How?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on May 15, 2009, 04:01:36 PM
They are paying proprtionally less than those who don't have dependents...period.

Most folks who don't have "dependents" have other venues to shelter thier taxes....if not, you may want get a new accountant.....

Quote from: Exterminator on May 15, 2009, 04:01:36 PM
How?

Are you serious.......the economy is stimulated by the hardworking familes who buys shoes, food, school books, vans, college tuitions, and on and on and on....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW