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Feds knew flyover NYC would cause panic-ordered secrecy

Started by Gardengirl, April 28, 2009, 09:01:42 PM

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Exterminator

#30
April 29, 2009, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 03:48:22 PM
THOSE people lived through hell...so, Monday sort of reminded them that it is STILL possible that a jet can fly into buildings and KILL thousands of people....and again, you seem to take it lightly.....

Your fear tactics don't work with me, Henry.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#31
April 29, 2009, 04:04:34 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 03:48:22 PM
THOSE people lived through hell...so, Monday sort of reminded them that it is STILL possible that a jet can fly into buildings and KILL thousands of people....and again, you seem to take it lightly.....

Your fear tactics don't work with me, Henry.

I honestly don't know what you are talking about?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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me

#32
April 29, 2009, 04:27:23 PM
What you don't seem to understand Ex is that prior to 9/11 most of those people would have probably felt the same as you and would not have been afraid had something like that happened.  Seeing what Air Force One did brought all that back and they seen it happening again.
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Bo D

#33
April 29, 2009, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: me on April 29, 2009, 04:27:23 PM
Seeing what Air Force One did brought all that back and they seen it happening again.

The President wasn't on the plane, so it was not Air Force One.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

#34
April 29, 2009, 04:49:51 PM
Quote from: Bo D on April 29, 2009, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: me on April 29, 2009, 04:27:23 PM
Seeing what Air Force One did brought all that back and they seen it happening again.

The President wasn't on the plane, so it was not Air Force One.

You are technically correct, but it WAS a Boeing 747 with Airforce One written on it....and that is not the point.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

mcgonser

#35
April 29, 2009, 04:53:37 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 03:36:43 PM
yeah, that's it ex....everybody (men, women and children) in NY that day was a bunch of cowards... :rolleyes:....THIS is what I mean about your arrogance...you turned a real life tragedy, where thousand were killed and injured.......into, how much of a macho man you are...

We're not talking about 9/11; we're talking about Monday.  Try to keep up.

Ex:Maybe you need to make yourself clear. Thank God We cannot read your mind. I don't think I will ever want to. Yuk!
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Henry Hawk

#36
April 29, 2009, 05:07:25 PM
Did you know that there are only two Boeing 747's that act as Air Force One?...and every time Obama goes someplace...both of them fly. 

It is something that is not done, sporadically..this is something than takes days in advance to set up.....I'm sure they had to go through the Presidents schedule...and pencil in......"photo-op"...... SOMEBODY, very close to the President HAD to know about this..........maybe not Obama personally...but at some point in time....somebody had to ask?..."are we going to go anywhere on the 27th?"  ... and the question had to be asked...... "Why?" ....and SOMEBODY had to say, "well, we got the photo op thingy going on then"....

I just question.....Obama is acting ..... Pissed, but he knows all too well, SOMETHING about this or knows exactly WHO, set this up........and New Yorkers have EVERY right in the world to be as pissed as hell over this... :rant:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

#37
April 29, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
Quote from: mcgonser on April 29, 2009, 04:53:37 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 03:44:54 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 03:36:43 PM
yeah, that's it ex....everybody (men, women and children) in NY that day was a bunch of cowards... :rolleyes:....THIS is what I mean about your arrogance...you turned a real life tragedy, where thousand were killed and injured.......into, how much of a macho man you are...

We're not talking about 9/11; we're talking about Monday.  Try to keep up.

Ex:Maybe you need to make yourself clear. Thank God We cannot read your mind. I don't think I will ever want to. Yuk!
I think Ex would have to have a mind for anyone to be able to read it... :biggrin:
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Bo D

#38
April 29, 2009, 05:20:47 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 05:07:25 PM
Did you know that there are only two Boeing 747's that act as Air Force One?...and every time Obama goes someplace...both of them fly. 


I can't find verification for that statement. In fact, it is VERY unusual for Air Force One even to be escorted by fighter jets.

I wonder if your statement has also applied to previous presidents?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

LOsborne

#39
April 29, 2009, 07:36:49 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 05:07:25 PM
Did you know that there are only two Boeing 747's that act as Air Force One?...and every time Obama goes someplace...both of them fly.
May I have your source please? That is interesting.

Gardengirl

#40
April 29, 2009, 10:15:28 PM
The film of the hundreds of people running didn't represent the THOUSANDS affected in those high rise buildings. They were all running downstairs. Surprised someone didn't kill themselves or have a heart attack. It was STUPID and this shows what kind of people the prez has surrounded himself with. Have not one of them heard of Photoshop????
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When the government fears its people, that is called liberty

dan foster

#41
April 29, 2009, 10:31:53 PM
Quote from: Gardengirl on April 29, 2009, 10:15:28 PM
The film of the hundreds of people running didn't represent the THOUSANDS affected in those high rise buildings. They were all running downstairs. Surprised someone didn't kill themselves or have a heart attack. It was STUPID and this shows what kind of people the prez has surrounded himself with. Have not one of them heard of Photoshop????

This in no way reflects on the president, unless the dumb shit that set this up isn't fired.
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Sandy Eggo

#42
April 29, 2009, 11:29:20 PM
This was for publicity, marketing or something?

Couldn't they have simply announced that they were going to be doing some publicity photos? 
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me

#43
April 29, 2009, 11:36:00 PM
http://www.history.com/content/air-force-one/did-you-know


QuoteAny plane the president flies in becomes "Air Force One," and, in fact, there are two VC-25 jets-- the primary Air Force One and a back-up--kept primed and ready. The back-up jet even accompanies Air Force One on every overseas trip, just in case it's needed.
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Exterminator

#44
April 30, 2009, 07:18:24 AM
Quote from: me on April 29, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
I think Ex would have to have a mind for anyone to be able to read it... :biggrin:

I'll bet you two old bats think you're funny; huh?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.
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