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How far do we go to keep America safe?...

Started by Henry Hawk, April 24, 2009, 08:44:59 AM

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LOsborne

#75
April 29, 2009, 07:43:33 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 07:18:33 AM
But they don't want to become critical thinkers; it would shatter their little make-believe world.
I don't think me even wants to become a thinker. The adjective is unnecessary.

Henry Hawk

#76
April 29, 2009, 08:09:40 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 07:19:07 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 28, 2009, 11:02:43 PM
I'm not for abortion. :no:

No one is for abortion.

bullcrap... :rolleyes:...those who choose to abort their baby are FOR abortion.......or they would NOT have CHOOSEN to have one....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#77
April 29, 2009, 08:29:00 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 07:27:34 AM
That's such a bullshit argument; partial birth abortions amount to less than one fourth of one percent of all abortions and have been banned since 2003 except in cases where the mother's health is in danger.

not sure WHERE you got your info...but the info I have read claims there are about 20,000 babies in the US that are aborted after week 21....I'm not sure how many WAS done to protect the life of the mother....but that seems like an alarming amount of very cruel deaths.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

#78
April 29, 2009, 08:32:16 AM
So now those who differ in opinion are standing jokes and have no credibility....sheesh you are such a putz.... :rolleyes:
Trump 2020

Exterminator

#79
April 29, 2009, 08:34:23 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 08:29:00 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 07:27:34 AM
That's such a bullshit argument; partial birth abortions amount to less than one fourth of one percent of all abortions and have been banned since 2003 except in cases where the mother's health is in danger.

not sure WHERE you got your info...but the info I have read claims there are about 20,000 babies in the US that are aborted after week 21....I'm not sure how many WAS done to protect the life of the mother....but that seems like an alarming amount of very cruel deaths.

Uh, it's against the law!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

#80
April 29, 2009, 08:35:39 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 08:09:40 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 07:19:07 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 28, 2009, 11:02:43 PM
I'm not for abortion. :no:

No one is for abortion.

bullcrap... :rolleyes:...those who choose to abort their baby are FOR abortion.......or they would NOT have CHOOSEN to have one....

That's like saying that people are going out and getting pregnant just so they can have an abortion and is a ridiculous assertion.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Sandy Eggo

#81
April 29, 2009, 09:34:15 AM
and Henry I'm sure I've never said that I had an abortion...your comment sounds like an assumption.

I recognize a woman's right to chose for herself. A woman has the right to choose what's right for her without considering what you or I think, feel, believe and that's the way it should be.  I don't have a problem with that, but it doesn't mean I'm pro-abortion.

Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Henry Hawk

#82
April 29, 2009, 10:25:29 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 29, 2009, 09:34:15 AM
and Henry I'm sure I've never said that I had an abortion...your comment sounds like an assumption.

I recognize a woman's right to chose for herself. A woman has the right to choose what's right for her without considering what you or I think, feel, believe and that's the way it should be.  I don't have a problem with that, but it doesn't mean I'm pro-abortion.

Sandy, I assure you I was not insinuating any such thing about you....my comment was directed at EX...where he said; that no one was FOR abortion...and I say, that if anyone HAS an abortion, they are obviously FOR an abortion...or they would NOT have one.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#83
April 29, 2009, 10:39:08 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 10:25:29 AM
Sandy, I assure you I was not insinuating any such thing about you....my comment was directed at EX...where he said; that no one was FOR abortion...and I say, that if anyone HAS an abortion, they are obviously FOR an abortion...or they would NOT have one.

So people are for brain surgery or for heart bypasses?  Ridiculous but back to the original subject...you are obviously for torture.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#84
April 29, 2009, 11:06:56 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 10:39:08 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 10:25:29 AM
Sandy, I assure you I was not insinuating any such thing about you....my comment was directed at EX...where he said; that no one was FOR abortion...and I say, that if anyone HAS an abortion, they are obviously FOR an abortion...or they would NOT have one.

So people are for brain surgery or for heart bypasses?  Ridiculous but back to the original subject...you are obviously for torture.

Yes, I believe nobody has any ethical disclosure for brain or heart surgeries?...stupid analogy Ex...not a good comparison at all...

and I am for keeping America safe.....I am NOT in favor of torture, in the meaning of physically or brutally abusing anyone....but I do believe in utilizing interrogation tactics that CAN produce information that will keep Americans safe.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#85
April 29, 2009, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 11:06:56 AM
Yes, I believe nobody has any ethical disclosure for brain or heart surgeries?

Really?  Christian Scientists do; should they be able to prevent you from having these medical procedures based on their religious/ethical beliefs because that is precisely what you are suggesting should be the case for abortion.

Quote...stupid analogy Ex...not a good comparison at all...

A line of thinking doesn't become stupid just because you're not bright enough to follow it.

Quoteand I am for keeping America safe.....I am NOT in favor of torture, in the meaning of physically or brutally abusing anyone....but I do believe in utilizing interrogation tactics that CAN produce information that will keep Americans safe.

You're a religious hypocrite is what you are.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#86
April 29, 2009, 11:31:05 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 11:06:56 AM
Yes, I believe nobody has any ethical disclosure for brain or heart surgeries?

Really?  Christian Scientists do; should they be able to prevent you from having these medical procedures based on their religious/ethical beliefs because that is precisely what you are suggesting should be the case for abortion.

Quote...stupid analogy Ex...not a good comparison at all...

A line of thinking doesn't become stupid just because you're not bright enough to follow it.

Quoteand I am for keeping America safe.....I am NOT in favor of torture, in the meaning of physically or brutally abusing anyone....but I do believe in utilizing interrogation tactics that CAN produce information that will keep Americans safe.

You're a religious hypocrite is what you are.

and your an arrogant ass....

now what?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#87
April 29, 2009, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 11:31:05 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 11:06:56 AM
Yes, I believe nobody has any ethical disclosure for brain or heart surgeries?

Really?  Christian Scientists do; should they be able to prevent you from having these medical procedures based on their religious/ethical beliefs because that is precisely what you are suggesting should be the case for abortion.

Quote...stupid analogy Ex...not a good comparison at all...

A line of thinking doesn't become stupid just because you're not bright enough to follow it.

Quoteand I am for keeping America safe.....I am NOT in favor of torture, in the meaning of physically or brutally abusing anyone....but I do believe in utilizing interrogation tactics that CAN produce information that will keep Americans safe.

You're a religious hypocrite is what you are.

and your an arrogant ass....

now what?

At least I'm an arrogant ass who understands the value of preserving the honor of the uniform he once wore and not some coward who's done nothing more in his life than pay lip service to his country's safety.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#88
April 29, 2009, 11:45:22 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 11:35:36 AM
[At least I'm an arrogant ass who understands the value of preserving the honor of the uniform he once wore and not some coward who's done nothing more in his life than pay lip service to his country's safety.

simply because I never served, has NO impact on my ability to understand the value of those who serve/served our country...nor does it make me a coward.

and furthermore, simply because you wore a military uniform makes you anymore knowledgeable about the integrity of this country or what it stands for....there has been plenty of garbage, that once wore the uniform....

Now, before you jump on me....I am going to say, I honestly do have 'some' respect for you...and appreciated YOUR service....I enjoy our conversing....but you are wrong, a whole lot more than you think you are, on many issues....you have simply convinced yourself into believing certain things....imo.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#89
April 29, 2009, 11:52:54 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2009, 11:45:22 AM
simply because I never served, has NO impact on my ability to understand the value of those who serve/served our country...nor does it make me a coward.

and furthermore, simply because you wore a military uniform makes you anymore knowledgeable about the integrity of this country or what it stands for....there has been plenty of garbage, that once wore the uniform....

Yeah, go with all of that.   :rolleyes:

QuoteNow, before you jump on me....I am going to say, I honestly do have 'some' respect for you...and appreciated YOUR service....I enjoy our conversing....but you are wrong, a whole lot more than you think you are, on many issues....you have simply convinced yourself into believing certain things....imo.

Your fellow Christians agree with me.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.
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